Nats Park took bag, can we get it back?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is OP the teenage daughter, trying to get everyone to agree that her father should be responsible for replacing it?

Nope! OP is sitting on her quiet patio drinking wine while dad and daughter have a fun night out (baggate notwithstanding).
Cheers!
—OP

***Adding “my child never finds dcum” to my list of wants for her life!

So you’re buying her a new bag?

Where did i say i was buying the bag? I will let my husband know my stance on it tomorrow. Unless he has apologized and offered to make it right before that. Because, yes, this is on him. He advised that it was fine. She should be able to trust him. And when he makes a mistake she should trust that he’ll apologize and make it right.

100% She learns when you make a mistake, you apologize and make it right. She also learns to check before the next event.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, follow up question:
Dad should replace the bag, right? He was the responsible adult. He advised that it was fine. He was wrong. Honest mistake. But he should replace it. Am I wrong?

And what does security do with those bags? Holiday gifts for their families? Sell? Trash?

—OP

I would say yes, especially if lockers were available and he didn’t have your daughter store the bag there. Was this an expensive bag? How is your daughter?

Not an expensive bag, but much loved and frequently used.
She’s 13.

16 or 17, it’s her fault. 13 - this is on Dad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, follow up question:
Dad should replace the bag, right? He was the responsible adult. He advised that it was fine. He was wrong. Honest mistake. But he should replace it. Am I wrong?

And what does security do with those bags? Holiday gifts for their families? Sell? Trash?

—OP

Agree, yes, he should replace it. It was his job to check and understand the bag policy. Also, he should have figured out about the lockers (they usually tell you when your bag doesn't comply). My guess is that they did tell him about the lockers, he balked at having to pay for that on top of the cost of the tickets and any food/drinks he paid for, and instead threw the bag away. Which is idiotic because while the lockers are definitely overpriced, they are probably less expensive than the backpack.

(this is 100% something my dad would have done when I was a teenager -- dads get mad/annoyed/cheap and make dumb choices sometimes)

NP here. We drove to a game about 10 days ago. I wasn’t aware of the policy but carried in a purse that had passed inspection at the Phillies Park a few weeks ago and fits within the constraints (having now seen them above). They told me I couldn’t bring it in and did not offer a locker. I had to carry an epi-pen, keys, wallet and phone by hand. Fortunately DH could take two of those items because I didn’t have enough pockets. It’s a BS policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your kid needs to learn responsibility. She should never have taken it with her without checking first. Thirteen is old enough to know this,

This

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kid needs to learn responsibility. She should never have taken it with her without checking first. Thirteen is old enough to know this,

I would not expect a 13 year old to anticipate the bizarre security theater of professional stadiums. This is on dad.

Agree. Even if Dad had not told daughter it would be fine, why would a 13 yr old think to check venue rules? I’d replace the bag and explain next time to check the rules before going.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nationals Park Bag Policy

Visitors will be screened when entering the stadium, and backpacks are prohibited. The only backpacks you can have in Nationals Park are those purchased at the stadium on the day of the event. You are allowed to bring purses, drawstring bags, and soft-sided coolers under 16 x 16 x 8 inches. One clear, empty, or factory-sealed water bottle under 1 liter is also allowed per person.

Items that are prohibited inside the stadium include:

Bags exceeding 16 x 16 x 8 inches
Hard coolers or ice chests
Metal or glass containers
Camera lenses longer than 8 inches
Tripods, monopods, and selfie sticks
Non-collapsible umbrellas
Inflatable items
Weapons or any item deemed inappropriate or dangerous

This is wrong. They have a clear bag policy now unless you bring a clutch that is 5x7. How do I know? I checked before I went to the concert tonight and planned accordingly.

https://www.mlb.com/nationals/ballpark/information/bag-policy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, this thread is why a portable locker business would boom for venues like this. I know Nats Park has some lockers.

When I had jury duty in Alexandria, everyone took their cell phones across the street from the courthouse to a little deli for them to stash them. I think it was like $10 to leave it with them. All the guards in the courthouse were telling people where to go, too.

It blew my mind that big ol' district court in Alexandria didn't have cell phone lockers when rinky-dink Loudoun County courthouse in Leesburg has them inside.

I worked in the Alexandria courthouse. They got rid of lockers for security reasons. That’s a high terrorism risk courthouse.

Alas I don’t think the deli across the street has lockers anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, follow up question:
Dad should replace the bag, right? He was the responsible adult. He advised that it was fine. He was wrong. Honest mistake. But he should replace it. Am I wrong?

And what does security do with those bags? Holiday gifts for their families? Sell? Trash?

—OP

Agree, yes, he should replace it. It was his job to check and understand the bag policy. Also, he should have figured out about the lockers (they usually tell you when your bag doesn't comply). My guess is that they did tell him about the lockers, he balked at having to pay for that on top of the cost of the tickets and any food/drinks he paid for, and instead threw the bag away. Which is idiotic because while the lockers are definitely overpriced, they are probably less expensive than the backpack.

(this is 100% something my dad would have done when I was a teenager -- dads get mad/annoyed/cheap and make dumb choices sometimes)

NP here. We drove to a game about 10 days ago. I wasn’t aware of the policy but carried in a purse that had passed inspection at the Phillies Park a few weeks ago and fits within the constraints (having now seen them above). They told me I couldn’t bring it in and did not offer a locker. I had to carry an epi-pen, keys, wallet and phone by hand. Fortunately DH could take two of those items because I didn’t have enough pockets. It’s a BS policy.

See, according to their website, bags for medical supplies are supposed to be exempt.

I'm going to a game Saturday for the first time in ages and I'm worried. I'll be taking the metro so I can't run it back to the car. I'm a T1D so I have supplies I have to bring with me plus I also have an epipen for an allergy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, this thread is why a portable locker business would boom for venues like this. I know Nats Park has some lockers.

When I had jury duty in Alexandria, everyone took their cell phones across the street from the courthouse to a little deli for them to stash them. I think it was like $10 to leave it with them. All the guards in the courthouse were telling people where to go, too.

It blew my mind that big ol' district court in Alexandria didn't have cell phone lockers when rinky-dink Loudoun County courthouse in Leesburg has them inside.

I worked in the Alexandria courthouse. They got rid of lockers for security reasons. That’s a high terrorism risk courthouse.

Alas I don’t think the deli across the street has lockers anymore.

They do not.

I took an old iPod touch with me in a ziploc and hid it in one of the long planters out front. My plan was to find free wifi and iMessage my partner when I was heading to the metro afterwards so they could pick me up in Reston about an hour later. I was pleasantly surprised to find pay phones still in use inside the courthouse.

[Anonymous]

Wow -- I can't believe Nats park just trashes the bags (or lets employees take them?). That's really awful. They shouldn't guarantee you'll get it back, but there's no reason why they can't throw them in a bin and let you rummage through them the next day like a lost and found.

I agree it's a dumb policy. I don't know what it prevents -- if someone is trying to smuggle in drugs or weapons, they'll just put them on their person. And they already inspected bags.

In another irritating life moment -- my teen left one of those expensive water bottles at Disneyland one the last ride of the day, as park was closing. Rather than stay late for it to make its way to lost and found, we went back to hotel and went back the next morning to lost and found. They informed me that they NEVER keep water bottles overnight -- they are all thrown out at the end of the night. Even a washable Hydroflask -- they are just tossing those in the trash! Again, I couldn't believe they don't just put them in a lost and found bin for a few days before trashing them. Such a waste.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kid needs to learn responsibility. She should never have taken it with her without checking first. Thirteen is old enough to know this,

I would not expect a 13 year old to anticipate the bizarre security theater of professional stadiums. This is on dad.

Agree. Even if Dad had not told daughter it would be fine, why would a 13 yr old think to check venue rules? I’d replace the bag and explain next time to check the rules before going.

This exactly. She's learned enough lesson by losing her bag.
Dad should pay to replace. And both should read the rules next time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, follow up question:
Dad should replace the bag, right? He was the responsible adult. He advised that it was fine. He was wrong. Honest mistake. But he should replace it. Am I wrong?

And what does security do with those bags? Holiday gifts for their families? Sell? Trash?

—OP

Agree, yes, he should replace it. It was his job to check and understand the bag policy. Also, he should have figured out about the lockers (they usually tell you when your bag doesn't comply). My guess is that they did tell him about the lockers, he balked at having to pay for that on top of the cost of the tickets and any food/drinks he paid for, and instead threw the bag away. Which is idiotic because while the lockers are definitely overpriced, they are probably less expensive than the backpack.

(this is 100% something my dad would have done when I was a teenager -- dads get mad/annoyed/cheap and make dumb choices sometimes)

NP here. We drove to a game about 10 days ago. I wasn’t aware of the policy but carried in a purse that had passed inspection at the Phillies Park a few weeks ago and fits within the constraints (having now seen them above). They told me I couldn’t bring it in and did not offer a locker. I had to carry an epi-pen, keys, wallet and phone by hand. Fortunately DH could take two of those items because I didn’t have enough pockets. It’s a BS policy.

See, according to their website, bags for medical supplies are supposed to be exempt.

I'm going to a game Saturday for the first time in ages and I'm worried. I'll be taking the metro so I can't run it back to the car. I'm a T1D so I have supplies I have to bring with me plus I also have an epipen for an allergy.

Phillies Park isn't the same as Nats Park. Different MLB parks can have more stringent policies, especially being in DC. Plus it can depend widely on whoever is working at the gate you enter. I am season ticket holder and attend about 20 games a year. Once this summer I was carrying a few unopened plastic bottles of water for the kids who were with me, and had them in a white plastic bag. The security person told me I couldn't take the white plastic bag in, but then another one said:"here lady, use this plastic bag to carry the waters in and throw that white one away" and offered me a clear Nats plastic bag that they give at the team store. He didn't have to do that, and I had no idea I couldn't bring in a white small plastic bag to carry waters in, but I happened upon a nice security person. I got lucky. Otherwise we would have just had to carry them or I would have put them in my plastic see through stadium bag (get one, they're ugly but useful).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, follow up question:
Dad should replace the bag, right? He was the responsible adult. He advised that it was fine. He was wrong. Honest mistake. But he should replace it. Am I wrong?

And what does security do with those bags? Holiday gifts for their families? Sell? Trash?

—OP

Agree, yes, he should replace it. It was his job to check and understand the bag policy. Also, he should have figured out about the lockers (they usually tell you when your bag doesn't comply). My guess is that they did tell him about the lockers, he balked at having to pay for that on top of the cost of the tickets and any food/drinks he paid for, and instead threw the bag away. Which is idiotic because while the lockers are definitely overpriced, they are probably less expensive than the backpack.

(this is 100% something my dad would have done when I was a teenager -- dads get mad/annoyed/cheap and make dumb choices sometimes)

NP here. We drove to a game about 10 days ago. I wasn’t aware of the policy but carried in a purse that had passed inspection at the Phillies Park a few weeks ago and fits within the constraints (having now seen them above). They told me I couldn’t bring it in and did not offer a locker. I had to carry an epi-pen, keys, wallet and phone by hand. Fortunately DH could take two of those items because I didn’t have enough pockets. It’s a BS policy.

See, according to their website, bags for medical supplies are supposed to be exempt.

I'm going to a game Saturday for the first time in ages and I'm worried. I'll be taking the metro so I can't run it back to the car. I'm a T1D so I have supplies I have to bring with me plus I also have an epipen for an allergy.

Buy a clear plastic tote. Nothing to worry about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow -- I can't believe Nats park just trashes the bags (or lets employees take them?). That's really awful. They shouldn't guarantee you'll get it back, but there's no reason why they can't throw them in a bin and let you rummage through them the next day like a lost and found.

I agree it's a dumb policy. I don't know what it prevents -- if someone is trying to smuggle in drugs or weapons, they'll just put them on their person. And they already inspected bags.

In another irritating life moment -- my teen left one of those expensive water bottles at Disneyland one the last ride of the day, as park was closing. Rather than stay late for it to make its way to lost and found, we went back to hotel and went back the next morning to lost and found. They informed me that they NEVER keep water bottles overnight -- they are all thrown out at the end of the night. Even a washable Hydroflask -- they are just tossing those in the trash! Again, I couldn't believe they don't just put them in a lost and found bin for a few days before trashing them. Such a waste.

It’s extra responsibility that they don’t want to deal with. To keep the items overnight or even after the game means they have to pay someone to be there while people rummage. It also increases they amount of issues of people fighting over goods that are not theirs and expecting the employees to mediate. It’s not worth it to the venues to deal with.

And all of that would be fine if there is clear and consistent information easily available prior to your event. I don’t know if that’s the case at Nat’s park given the comments on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok, follow up question:
Dad should replace the bag, right? He was the responsible adult. He advised that it was fine. He was wrong. Honest mistake. But he should replace it. Am I wrong?

And what does security do with those bags? Holiday gifts for their families? Sell? Trash?

—OP

Yes, Dad should absolutely replace the bag.