New Beyonce album today!

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Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!

There's really no excuse though. The disability community already went through this with Lizzo, who responded appropriately. How can you possibly say you didn't know?

You don't *have* to care about using hurtful words, though. It's your choice to decide not to worry about it and leave it as is. Take a known shot at people with a disability? Go for it. If that's your choice. But to claim she didn't know is utter BS. And to claim it's not a slur to many is also BS. She just thought, hey, I'm queen whatever they call her.

She wasn't taking a shot at people with disabilities. In slang it means 'going off'. She wasn't using it to refer to anyone with a disability.

Once the whole Lizzo thing went around, she knew. At that point, it became a known shot. It wasn't even "well, it wasn't exactly the same, give her a break." It was the. Exact. Same. Word. The. Disability. Community. Told. Everyone. Is. Offensive. It can be pretty dicey if you want to start deciding when some people's intent is more important than the negative impact words have. They're *telling* all of us very clearly it's harmful. Why would you defend a slur?? Once anyone tells me a word is offensive (not to just to one person, but to an entire community of people) I do them the courtesy of not using it.

That Lizzo situation happened weeks before B dropped her album, you don’t know what she did or didn’t know.

GMAFB. As one PP said, if she herself didn't know, someone in her camp HAD to know. It was everywhere. I don't follow either of these people as musicians and it was everywhere for me.

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It sounds like trash. I don't like most of the songs. Also, hearing her sing the words thotty and saying dead ass just made me cringe.

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Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!

There's really no excuse though. The disability community already went through this with Lizzo, who responded appropriately. How can you possibly say you didn't know?

You don't *have* to care about using hurtful words, though. It's your choice to decide not to worry about it and leave it as is. Take a known shot at people with a disability? Go for it. If that's your choice. But to claim she didn't know is utter BS. And to claim it's not a slur to many is also BS. She just thought, hey, I'm queen whatever they call her.

She wasn't taking a shot at people with disabilities. In slang it means 'going off'. She wasn't using it to refer to anyone with a disability.

Once the whole Lizzo thing went around, she knew. At that point, it became a known shot. It wasn't even "well, it wasn't exactly the same, give her a break." It was the. Exact. Same. Word. The. Disability. Community. Told. Everyone. Is. Offensive. It can be pretty dicey if you want to start deciding when some people's intent is more important than the negative impact words have. They're *telling* all of us very clearly it's harmful. Why would you defend a slur?? Once anyone tells me a word is offensive (not to just to one person, but to an entire community of people) I do them the courtesy of not using it.

That Lizzo situation happened weeks before B dropped her album, you don’t know what she did or didn’t know.

GMAFB. As one PP said, if she herself didn't know, someone in her camp HAD to know. It was everywhere. I don't follow either of these people as musicians and it was everywhere for me.

Relax. You all win.

Beyoncé used ‘ableist’ slur in a new song. After uproar, she’s deleting it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/08/02/beyonce-spaz-slur/

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Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!

There's really no excuse though. The disability community already went through this with Lizzo, who responded appropriately. How can you possibly say you didn't know?

You don't *have* to care about using hurtful words, though. It's your choice to decide not to worry about it and leave it as is. Take a known shot at people with a disability? Go for it. If that's your choice. But to claim she didn't know is utter BS. And to claim it's not a slur to many is also BS. She just thought, hey, I'm queen whatever they call her.

She wasn't taking a shot at people with disabilities. In slang it means 'going off'. She wasn't using it to refer to anyone with a disability.

Once the whole Lizzo thing went around, she knew. At that point, it became a known shot. It wasn't even "well, it wasn't exactly the same, give her a break." It was the. Exact. Same. Word. The. Disability. Community. Told. Everyone. Is. Offensive. It can be pretty dicey if you want to start deciding when some people's intent is more important than the negative impact words have. They're *telling* all of us very clearly it's harmful. Why would you defend a slur?? Once anyone tells me a word is offensive (not to just to one person, but to an entire community of people) I do them the courtesy of not using it.

That Lizzo situation happened weeks before B dropped her album, you don’t know what she did or didn’t know.

GMAFB. As one PP said, if she herself didn't know, someone in her camp HAD to know. It was everywhere. I don't follow either of these people as musicians and it was everywhere for me.

Relax. You all win.

Beyoncé used ‘ableist’ slur in a new song. After uproar, she’s deleting it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/08/02/beyonce-spaz-slur/

This is getting ridiculous. Are we not allowed to use the word schizo anymore either?

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Next they are going to cancel the word "stupid".

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like trash. I don't like most of the songs. Also, hearing her sing the words thotty and saying dead ass just made me cringe.

+1

All of the reviews are raving about it and it just doesn’t feel like anything new at all. And I don’t love 90s dance or house music so I just don’t get it.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like trash. I don't like most of the songs. Also, hearing her sing the words thotty and saying dead ass just made me cringe.

+1

All of the reviews are raving about it and it just doesn’t feel like anything new at all. And I don’t love 90s dance or house music so I just don’t get it.

This is her worst album yet.

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I do not like dance music and was therefore disappointed when I first heard this.
BUT THEN
I had it on in the background while working today and found myself jamming out.

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Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!

I was shocked she left it in when Lizzo just went through the backlash and apology before changing the word in her just released album.

From what I learned, the outrage over the word started in the UK handicapable community. Spaz over there is much more derogatory than in the US. I find it ironic since their use of the word fag doesn't cause the same outrage in the US.

Anyway, the handicapable community seized on the opportunity to back the UK community and it soon became a big abelist slur in the US.

The word spaz was much more common in the 80s and 90s than now. I haven't heard any of my Gen Z kids ever use that word. When I quizzed them all on when it meant, they all said a variation of nerd or dork.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like trash. I don't like most of the songs. Also, hearing her sing the words thotty and saying dead ass just made me cringe.

+1

All of the reviews are raving about it and it just doesn’t feel like anything new at all. And I don’t love 90s dance or house music so I just don’t get it.

I have a love of all things 90's but it's not that great to me. I like two songs. I don't think it's horrible, just not my cup of tea.

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Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!

I was shocked she left it in when Lizzo just went through the backlash and apology before changing the word in her just released album.

From what I learned, the outrage over the word started in the UK handicapable community. Spaz over there is much more derogatory than in the US. I find it ironic since their use of the word fag doesn't cause the same outrage in the US.

Anyway, the handicapable community seized on the opportunity to back the UK community and it soon became a big abelist slur in the US.

The word spaz was much more common in the 80s and 90s than now. I haven't heard any of my Gen Z kids ever use that word. When I quizzed them all on when it meant, they all said a variation of nerd or dork.

This was my first thought too.

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Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!

There's really no excuse though. The disability community already went through this with Lizzo, who responded appropriately. How can you possibly say you didn't know?

You don't *have* to care about using hurtful words, though. It's your choice to decide not to worry about it and leave it as is. Take a known shot at people with a disability? Go for it. If that's your choice. But to claim she didn't know is utter BS. And to claim it's not a slur to many is also BS. She just thought, hey, I'm queen whatever they call her.

She wasn't taking a shot at people with disabilities. In slang it means 'going off'. She wasn't using it to refer to anyone with a disability.

Once the whole Lizzo thing went around, she knew. At that point, it became a known shot. It wasn't even "well, it wasn't exactly the same, give her a break." It was the. Exact. Same. Word. The. Disability. Community. Told. Everyone. Is. Offensive. It can be pretty dicey if you want to start deciding when some people's intent is more important than the negative impact words have. They're *telling* all of us very clearly it's harmful. Why would you defend a slur?? Once anyone tells me a word is offensive (not to just to one person, but to an entire community of people) I do them the courtesy of not using it.

That Lizzo situation happened weeks before B dropped her album, you don’t know what she did or didn’t know.

GMAFB. As one PP said, if she herself didn't know, someone in her camp HAD to know. It was everywhere. I don't follow either of these people as musicians and it was everywhere for me.

Relax. You all win.

Beyoncé used ‘ableist’ slur in a new song. After uproar, she’s deleting it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/08/02/beyonce-spaz-slur/

This is getting ridiculous. Are we not allowed to use the word schizo anymore either?

Not a matter of "allowed." Use it all you want, if you choose to come across as a profoundly tone-deaf jerk.

It's a slur and an ugly one which belittles and devalues people with an actual mental illness.

I guess you don't have a loved one with diagnosed schizophrenia. Lucky, lucky you.

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Anonymous wrote:Next they are going to cancel the word "stupid".

It doesn't derive from the formal NAME of a specific, identifiable medical condition, so no, be stupid all you like.

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Anonymous wrote:Lord, they forced her to remove the word "spazzin" from one of her new songs. The lyric is "Spazzin on that azz". Ridiculous!

There's really no excuse though. The disability community already went through this with Lizzo, who responded appropriately. How can you possibly say you didn't know?

You don't *have* to care about using hurtful words, though. It's your choice to decide not to worry about it and leave it as is. Take a known shot at people with a disability? Go for it. If that's your choice. But to claim she didn't know is utter BS. And to claim it's not a slur to many is also BS. She just thought, hey, I'm queen whatever they call her.

She wasn't taking a shot at people with disabilities. In slang it means 'going off'. She wasn't using it to refer to anyone with a disability.

Once the whole Lizzo thing went around, she knew. At that point, it became a known shot. It wasn't even "well, it wasn't exactly the same, give her a break." It was the. Exact. Same. Word. The. Disability. Community. Told. Everyone. Is. Offensive. It can be pretty dicey if you want to start deciding when some people's intent is more important than the negative impact words have. They're *telling* all of us very clearly it's harmful. Why would you defend a slur?? Once anyone tells me a word is offensive (not to just to one person, but to an entire community of people) I do them the courtesy of not using it.

That Lizzo situation happened weeks before B dropped her album, you don’t know what she did or didn’t know.

She's a highly curated performer, with an army of writers, producers, musicians, handlers, agents, PR people, blah blah blah. They knew, even if your Queen herself was Above It All and never heard a peep about Lizzo's coverage. And "weeks' was plenty of time to fix it. It's not like they had to do a new pressing of a million vinyl albums.

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Anonymous wrote:Next they are going to cancel the word "stupid".

It doesn't derive from the formal NAME of a specific, identifiable medical condition, so no, be stupid all you like.

No, they really are trying to "cancel" that word too.
https://thebodyisnotanapology.com/magazine/stupid-is-an-ableist-slur-breaking-down-defenses-around-ableist-language-liberating-our-words/