I am confused between Stuart Hobson Middle School vs. Deal Middle School

[Anonymous]

+1. Completely agree. Good post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://wjla.com/amp/news/local/i-was-hyperventilating-dc-student-receives-full-ride-scholarship-columbia-university-temitayo-adeola

This kid is Nigerian/Nigerian American. Nigerian parents are well known tiger parents, so this likely has more to do with family nuturing and guidance/extra tutoring, etc. than the school.

[Anonymous]

Triple package?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://wjla.com/amp/news/local/i-was-hyperventilating-dc-student-receives-full-ride-scholarship-columbia-university-temitayo-adeola

This kid is Nigerian/Nigerian American. Nigerian parents are well known tiger parents, so this likely has more to do with family nuturing and guidance/extra tutoring, etc. than the school.

So even when Eastern has a success story they get zero credit? That's not consistent with the interview with the student.

[Anonymous]

id go to the school that is substantially closer. in my view, it will be all-around better to live somewhat nearby (including afterschool activities and social engagements outside of school). i dont think middle school is worth an extremely long commute (even for top students). sh is a much smaller school than deal. your child can presumably go to one of the application schools such as mckinley tech etc. instead of eastern. this is maybe not the conventional dcum advice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DS got off a waitlist last year as an out-of boundary elementary school that’s feeds into the Deal/Wilson path. After one year of constant back and forth commuting from one of the undesirable wards I am tired but it’s not about me it’s about my DS and now I find myself confused. Stuart Hobson I chose for commute and academically they seem to be equal. I am confused and I don’t need any negative feedback although I know it’s coming. Can I get any enlightenment as from parents that may have experience from both school or from one or the other from your perspective.

Check out the environment. Most folks on here have high social capital... your kid will be fine in a decent middle school (finding out the teacher is more important). I prefer Stuart, but if you are going on rep...Deal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As an Asian family, I love DCPS. My kid doesn't have to compete with many other Asian families and does well. We're not a first gen family and have checked a bit out of the rat race many of our family members dealt with in NoVa and MoCo. DC suits us just fine.

We're an Asian family that finds our mostly white and umc DCPS ES, 8 years in, to be more of a rat race than the community at the heritage language school our kids attend in NoVa on weekends. The suburban families we deal with seem to enjoy learning and academic challenge more than impressing/beating competitors. Would BASIS DC be so popular with umc families in this city if the rat race was confined to the burbs?

Asian families generally lack the patience for DC public schools past elementary. The middle and high schools are too crowded, segregated by race and class, spartan, inflexible, badly managed by DCPS higher ups (the firing of the good Walls head comes to mind) and/or low-performing.

Rat race stress is for those without enough imagination, creativity or chutzpah. Nobody stopping your family members from running their own races.

As an Asian with a kid at BASIS, I don't think BASIS is a rat race at all. It's easy compared to the type of AAP stress that exists in Fairfax schools. I send my kid to BASIS to make sure he gets grade level material, but if I wanted real competition, I would have moved years ago.

[Anonymous]

Bully for you. No idea what your point is. Asian representation in DC public schools is around 1.5%. Not for this Asian family after elementary. When my kid did a shadow day at BASIS he couldn’t find an Asian admin or teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bully for you. No idea what your point is. Asian representation in DC public schools is around 1.5%. Not for this Asian family after elementary. When my kid did a shadow day at BASIS he couldn’t find an Asian admin or teacher.

Asian kids flock to Montgomery County. More welcoming environment, culturally. Not the same experience for underrepresented minorities though imho.

[Anonymous]

Asians also head to NOVA, a more welcoming environment with better academics and facilities than DC public schools. My nephew are at an Arlington MS that's 20% Asian where two Asian languages are taught from 6th grade. The family moved from DC and rejected BASIS, where no Asian languages are taught at the advanced level, no languages are taught at all before 8th grade, and the Asian families who enroll their children are mostly highly assimilated (versus immigrant families, still speaking our languages at home). Things weren't much better at Deal, where no Asian languages are taught at an advanced level. There are several high schools in Fairfax teaching half a dozen Asian languages at an advanced level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its understandable that one would prefer schools where their children can see other people like them and not feel alienated but if Asians won't enroll their kids in local schools, how are these schools ever going to have any diversity? If DCPS can attract them to local schools, it really can add fresh air for everyone. New and different perspectives can invigorate a learning community. This is America, we don't need segregation, we need inclusion.

I’m Asian and was interested in DCPS but DCPS has made it abundantly clear that they tolerate white kids, care about AA kids and don’t give a damn about Asians. I don’t really think they care about Latinos either.

Curious why you feel this way.

DP

It's demographics and power. DCPS is majority black so those will always be catered too first. Hispanics fail to max there political clout anywhere, same with asians and in DC there are barely any asians in DCPS. White people have more of both but there numbers quickly decrease after elementary schools so most of DCPS just chooses to ignore them.

...plus. a lot of the white families are cowed by the fear of being called "racist" or "not an ally" and so they won't speak up. There's a population of vocal black folks and their wokey woke white enablers who have decided that any white person who demands academic excellence (for all kids) is secretly seeking to oppress POC. (Take a moment and consider how regressive that is - demanding academic excellence for all kids is anti-black!) I swear to you there are people in DC who actually believe that their kids should suffer or accept less than an excellent education as some sort of concession prize to black folks for our country's shameful history of slavery and systemic racism. Never understood that mentality.

Personally, I:
1. Don't care what you call me. My liberalism isn't performative, it is real and rooted in a desire to see a high quality education provided to all kids in DC.
2. Think it is perverse and regressive that we have decided that "equity" means teaching to the bottom or lowering standards.
3. Won't put my kids at risk (physically, emotionally, academically) so that some performative liberal talking point will look kindly on me and mine.

[Anonymous]

the “woke” mostly genuinely believe that kids benefit from racial and socioeconomic integration and want better schools for everyone. its complex.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bully for you. No idea what your point is. Asian representation in DC public schools is around 1.5%. Not for this Asian family after elementary. When my kid did a shadow day at BASIS he couldn’t find an Asian admin or teacher.

Not sure what your point is either.

DC is only 4.5% Asian overall and that probably includes a lot of childless young people.

BASIS DC is 7% Asian.

Fairfax County is 21% Asian and TJ is around 70% Asian.

Enjoy the burbs!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bully for you. No idea what your point is. Asian representation in DC public schools is around 1.5%. Not for this Asian family after elementary. When my kid did a shadow day at BASIS he couldn’t find an Asian admin or teacher.

Uh, I guess that you didn’t meet the Mandarin teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As an Asian family, I love DCPS. My kid doesn't have to compete with many other Asian families and does well. We're not a first gen family and have checked a bit out of the rat race many of our family members dealt with in NoVa and MoCo. DC suits us just fine.

We're an Asian family that finds our mostly white and umc DCPS ES, 8 years in, to be more of a rat race than the community at the heritage language school our kids attend in NoVa on weekends. The suburban families we deal with seem to enjoy learning and academic challenge more than impressing/beating competitors. Would BASIS DC be so popular with umc families in this city if the rat race was confined to the burbs?

Asian families generally lack the patience for DC public schools past elementary. The middle and high schools are too crowded, segregated by race and class, spartan, inflexible, badly managed by DCPS higher ups (the firing of the good Walls head comes to mind) and/or low-performing.

Rat race stress is for those without enough imagination, creativity or chutzpah. Nobody stopping your family members from running their own races.

TJ, which is 70% Asian, is a very relaxed and low stress. No rat race there!