My husband yells at me or the kids at least once a day

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Is he Indian or Arab? If so you have no chance of changing it as it's cultural

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Anonymous wrote:I think you should separate. Say you can't live this way. Try living on your own. See what happens. Maybe he will come around. Maybe he won't. You have a young child. Doesn't matter what school system they are in but they do need a stable house situation. There is no need to divorce right now.

OP here. I cannot afford an apartment on top of childcare and our mortgage. Until kids are school age I won’t have the income to do this….

If you document the abuse he will be the one in the apartment while you raise the kids in the house

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Anonymous wrote:Why were you going together to the pediatrician during a workday? That's a little unusual.

Do you have a pediatrician who sees patients at nights and on weekends? Please share!

Are you dense? The question is why are both parents not working during normal business hours and are available to take the child together?

Maybe it is shift work. Or unemployment. Or he is controlling and doesn’t let her go out in public without him.

I think CMA is open on Saturdays, since you asked.

My sarcasm went over your head idiot. For parents who have kids with special medical needs it's common for both parents to attend pediatrician appointments. You are the dense one.

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^^oh and if you don't have the kind of job where you can take an hour to take your kid to the doctor you don't have a very good job.

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Dissociate as much as you can from him. Stop having sex with him, ugh. If he complains, be honest “the idea of sleeping with a person who rages at me daily isn’t appealing.” If he yells, take the kids and leave the room. As the kids get older, make a plan to leave. He will likely pay child support. Either sell the house or one of you buys the other out of the equity you have in the house. Buy or rent a smaller place for you and the kids. Just because you can’t leave now doesn’t mean you can’t 1)make a plan and 2) put up as many guardrails as possible.

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Anonymous wrote:Is he Indian or Arab? If so you have no chance of changing it as it's cultural

Some good racism here. Pretty sure white people also yell at people and storm capitals.
Anyway, the dude is abusive. You need to leave him.

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Anonymous wrote:Is he Indian or Arab? If so you have no chance of changing it as it's cultural

Some good racism here. Pretty sure white people also yell at people and storm capitals.
Anyway, the dude is abusive. You need to leave him.

You forgot to say “shoot up schools, malls, movie theaters, massage parlors etc etc”

Maga moron with a dumb take is definitely not a surprise.

But I agree, she needs to leave. It’s unacceptable for someone to yell at your kids like that.

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I understand why you feel as though you cannot divorce him right now. However, you start making a plan toward it.

I grew up in a home like this. My mom yelled at us all the time. I'm in my 40s and I'm still learning to undo the damage and childhood trauma caused by this. Your children are still young enough to not have to grow up remembering this.

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How on earth did someone so CLEARLY type A/perfectionist/high strung end up with someone with severe ADHD, PTSD, depression & anxiety???

This sounds like a match made in absolute HELL.

Being type A is all about an incredibly intense need to control -- and you, being someone with special needs & mental health challenges, will ALWAYS be someone that he can never fully control, because you yourself don't have complete control and that's always going to be a huge problem for him (and it will only get worse over time).

This tells me that he's always treated you this way, right from the giset date on. His is such an intense need for control, that he could have never hid it, so you've known this about him since day 1.

Get out now -- you two should have never, ever gotten married in the first place.

OP here. I think you are making a lot of assumptions here and not being very kind to say we never should have Been married based on one post and not a ton of information. We have been in a relationship for 17 years and he has changed a lot in that time. As have I. In early years of our relationship he was a very laid back guy. Over the years he has gotten more controlling and anal about things. Parenthood was when he really changed - his childhood was quite difficult and that is when the controlling aspect came out. The stress of life for us has been extreme and included a chronically sick child, lots of sleep deprivation with the sick child, and another child with behavioral challenges. Also WFH for 2 years, moving, and pandemic.

In my case, I was not diagnosed with ADHD until a few years ago. I developed coping skills in childhood to overcome the challenges and succeed academically and professionally, like many women. I had gotten to a good place professionally and personally when we had kids but the addition of children to our relationship has been really hard for me to balance with so many competing needs and priorities on top of work and running a household and the aforementioned issues with our kids. I also did not get diagnosed with PTSD until 5 years ago because inexperienced a traumatic event 5 years ago. I was diagnosed with depression in my teens when my parent had a very messy divorce and was on meds for a few years and then got off them. I do not have severe mental illness so why are you making that assumption based on something I did not say?

Anyway, I’m trying to say there is a lot of factors that have gotten us to this place, and it certainly did not start out that way. I never would have married a husband who routinely yelled at me.

Not the PP... however, I don't understand why you keep stating when you were diagnosed?
You've had ADHD all of your life, and any challenges you have now, have always been there.
Youve had them all of your life, they didn't just manifest after you were diagnosed.

Youre acting really defensive, and I'm not sure what you want from us anymore?
You've already stated that you have no intention of divorcing him anytime soon, you won't go to solo therapy, what exactly do you want us to tell you, because it seems like whenever anyone suggests something, you have a reason for saying it can't happen.

When you were diagnosed means nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like I know the answer to this, but am putting it out there anyway. My husband loses it on me or our daughter at least once a day. By that I mean he yells, loses his cool, and blames me/her for losing it. She and I are both ADHD and he gets really triggered if we don’t hear him, or we miss something he said, or we are distracted, or any number of reasons. I admittedly have anxiety, a history of depression/PTSD, etc and often being concerns/worries to him. This annoys him because he says I am just venting or being negative or asking him to solve my problems. He is also a perfectionist so he constantly criticizes me for not making independent decisions and running things by him, but then if I do things on my own (even if it’s just cooking dinner) he will find something wrong with what I do. If I go to the store, he gets angry if I forget a staple or items we needed, or I can’t get back in one hour because it only takes him an hour to shop. If I cook dinner, he gets mad that I used too many dishes in cooking and made a big mess, or the meal was not served on time. If I pack the diaper back and try to run through all the items we need before we leave, he will get mad and tell me to just figure it out and then stop running things by him. But if we get to where we are going and I forgot anything (like maybe I brought a snack but it was only crackers and not a cheese stick for our older kid, or I forgot to pack bug spray or apply it to the kids) he will criticize me for that. If I ask him to stop yelling at the 5 year old when she eats slowly in the morning or when she won’t get dressed or brush teeth and I decide to intervene, he will scream at me that I can take her to school because he has always had the responsibility for it and we lose track of time (which is right, time management is hard for us).

Today on the car ride home from our pediatrician he lost it on me because I was trying to go over the guest list for our older kid’s birthday party and figure out a few extra kids to invite because we have space (at a play place with a set limit of guests). When my mother in law was here last weekend he lost it on me because he made us a nice dinner, barely sat down because he was cooking and then went to change a diaper, and I threw away the food on his plate (1 piece of broccoli) because he said he had told us we was not done eating and that I have no consideration for him (despite me offering to change the diaper and thanking him for cooking our meal). He yelled at me in front of my mother in law (he yells at her and they argue with regularity) and then the next day when we were out walking as a family he stormed away from me when he got mad after I tried to bring it up to him, and refused to speak or respond to me in front of our daughter and my MIL. I confided in my MIL how embarrassed I was with his behavior and how he loses it regularly on me and the kids and she agreed with me that it was not ok and said he is still not over a lot of his childhood issues (addictions, multiple divorces, verbal/physical abuse). My FIL who is divorced from her has visited us and seen some of his angry outbursts and even reached out to my MIL about how he needs to calm down.

I feel like I have the support of both sides of our families when it comes to his behavior, at least in the sense that he’s being inappropriate, but I don’t know what to do. I told my MIL I have begged him to go to couples counseling and he has adamantly refused and says the issues are all mine. He says he has no interest in relitigating childhood and psychoanalyzing it. I feel so beaten down and verbally abused and controlled by him that I find sex a chore and it difficult to enjoy intimacy - I feel like he’s just invading me and it’s not arousing at all to kiss him, I just want to get away but I give him pity sex every week or two and somehow I think he thinks that and apologizing can fix this marriage, which feels rotten at the core to me.

I cannot afford to divorce him and maintain my own household in our neighborhood, and we recently bought a home and the kids are finally settled. I guess my question is, is this emotional abuse? And if so, what can I do about it? I know I cannot change him, only myself. How can I protect my kids? I don’t want to get divorced, but the idea of him yelling at me and the kids the rest of my life feels unsustainable and toxic. He won’t admit to an anger problem, and instead always says we make him yell because we don’t listen to him any other way. I am now so accustomed to it I feel I have lost perspective on everything and don’t know what to do…

Uhhh, it's really obvious that he has some major resentments towards you... like, major.
Ask him point blank what you did for him to resent you so much.
It may have zero to do with you and everything to do with him; but he's most definitely resentful about something?

Are you suggesting that he rages at the children because OP wasn't nice enough to him?


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Don't you mean because YOU weren't nice enough to him?
Don't sock puppet, OP.
Next time, don't post as yourself only moments after you've you've sock puppeted.

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Anonymous wrote:Why were you going together to the pediatrician during a workday? That's a little unusual.

Do you have a pediatrician who sees patients at nights and on weekends? Please share!

Are you dense? The question is why are both parents not working during normal business hours and are available to take the child together?

Maybe it is shift work. Or unemployment. Or he is controlling and doesn’t let her go out in public without him.

I think CMA is open on Saturdays, since you asked.

Probably because they have professional white collar jobs that allow them to take a couple hours off to take their kid to the doctor with advance notice?

You are ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you should separate. Say you can't live this way. Try living on your own. See what happens. Maybe he will come around. Maybe he won't. You have a young child. Doesn't matter what school system they are in but they do need a stable house situation. There is no need to divorce right now.

OP here. I cannot afford an apartment on top of childcare and our mortgage. Until kids are school age I won’t have the income to do this….

If you document the abuse he will be the one in the apartment while you raise the kids in the house

Not true at all.

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Anonymous wrote:An adult who yells at anyone is unacceptable. Yes, we all makes mistakes, so maybe it happens once a decade. But, an adult who yells daily has a serious problem. Draw a boundary. Learn to say, “I understand you’re upset, but it’s unacceptable to yell at me. I am going to walk away and do something else. We can discuss this later when you’re able to do so calmly.”

My spouse raises his voice and yells, often in the car when I'm driving and in front of the young kids.
We try to catch up on things, he doesn't read his emails or texts - then can't find then, then gets angry and bullies me and yells. And of course blames me. for his yelling. "You make me do this."

I've calmly repeated myself: Stop yelling in the car. Stop raising your voice. Take a break, we will resolve the issue when you're calm.

He's scary.

Once I said Stop yelling like a freak, and he yelled about how I was name calling and an awful person. It's like he wants us to get in an accident on the freeway.

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Wow, OP, you are describing my life. I relate to everything you've described about your DH and the changes over time due. Looking back, there were always red flags that I ignored because his anger wasn't directed at me back then. That changed after we had kids and I guess he got more comfortable showing his true colors.

I've spent years making excuses for him and tend to blame myself for his rage. But I finally got a great therapist that was straight with me and she point blank called it what it is: abuse.

I'm trying very hard to get out and it's just making him angrier. He accuses me of being unstable and threatens to take the kids from me.

It's taken me many years to even admit how bad it is and that he will never change. OP, please don't waste your years like I have. Listen to all these other posters that this is abuse and its not your fault.

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Anonymous wrote:An adult who yells at anyone is unacceptable. Yes, we all makes mistakes, so maybe it happens once a decade. But, an adult who yells daily has a serious problem. Draw a boundary. Learn to say, “I understand you’re upset, but it’s unacceptable to yell at me. I am going to walk away and do something else. We can discuss this later when you’re able to do so calmly.”

My spouse raises his voice and yells, often in the car when I'm driving and in front of the young kids.
We try to catch up on things, he doesn't read his emails or texts - then can't find then, then gets angry and bullies me and yells. And of course blames me. for his yelling. "You make me do this."

I've calmly repeated myself: Stop yelling in the car. Stop raising your voice. Take a break, we will resolve the issue when you're calm.

He's scary.

Once I said Stop yelling like a freak, and he yelled about how I was name calling and an awful person. It's like he wants us to get in an accident on the freeway.

He knows he's got you trapped. My abusive DH does this too. I no longer will ride with him even if it means taking 2 cars.