Walt Whitman vs walter johnson

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Anonymous wrote:OP here- I was specifically looking for mental health issues at WJ if they are similar to Whitman? None of these responses have been helpful. I know the test scores and not really care about the differences in them in regards to test scores.

You're not smart enough to read between the lines. The highest achieving school, on paper, in terms of grades - Whitman - probably has the biggest stressors, most suicides / accidental overdoses and outsourcing for therapists.

Do you have data to support that? Google WJ and suicide. There are kids with mental health issues at both. It’s important to differentiate between the issues of the kid and the issues of the school.

My DC went to Whitman and was one of those for whom it was a great fit and not high stress, despite taking a lot of AP classes. I’m sure he would have done fine at WJ too.

OP you may want to talk to the guidance counselors at each school to get a sense of the fit for your child’s particular mental health challenges. I’m sure they’ve seen similar kids before and can provide some perspective.

The counselors at those schools literally do not give a shit. They are about presenting a semblance only of "care". They process grades, they send transcripts, they field questions that they can rarely answer.

Not true. I am still in touch with my children's counselor (WJ), even though they are not there any longer. She cared, and still cares. When they come home from college, and visited the school, she was one they went to visit

It is true for 99% of them. You got that very rare 1%. congratulations.

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Anonymous wrote:I would check the school profiles. There's a huge difference between the two schools if you want your kid to go to college.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04424.pdf

WJ -
% of Students Meeting University System of Maryland Entrance Requirements = 67.1%
School average SAT: 1234
% of Graduates Scoring 3 or Higher on AP Test or Scoring 4 or Higher on IB Test: 70.8

Whitman -
% of Students Meeting University System of Maryland Entrance Requirements = 81.4%
School average SAT: 1339
% of Graduates Scoring 3 or Higher on AP Test or Scoring 4 or Higher on IB Test: 84.0

I prefer to use the data the county released by high school sorted by demographic cohort. This makes it easier to factor in SES differences and get a sense of how these schools really stack up.

For the largest cohort common to these two schools, Whitman has an average of 1299 vs WJ which had 1275. Basically, both are fine schools and it's just a matter of splitting hairs.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

You're quoting only White student scores!?!? OMG. Take off the hood. You need to quote ALL student scores, you racist b!!!!

The poster clearly stated they were comparing the largest common cohort to factor for demographic differences and get a head to head comparison.

Clearly stated? Making the assumption the OP was White instead of referencing the "largest common cohort to factor for demographic differences"?

Why would someone suppress the data for non-white students? Why would someone stick up for someone suppressing the data for non-white students? Scary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I would check the school profiles. There's a huge difference between the two schools if you want your kid to go to college.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04424.pdf

WJ -
% of Students Meeting University System of Maryland Entrance Requirements = 67.1%
School average SAT: 1234
% of Graduates Scoring 3 or Higher on AP Test or Scoring 4 or Higher on IB Test: 70.8

Whitman -
% of Students Meeting University System of Maryland Entrance Requirements = 81.4%
School average SAT: 1339
% of Graduates Scoring 3 or Higher on AP Test or Scoring 4 or Higher on IB Test: 84.0

I prefer to use the data the county released by high school sorted by demographic cohort. This makes it easier to factor in SES differences and get a sense of how these schools really stack up.

For the largest cohort common to these two schools, Whitman has an average of 1299 vs WJ which had 1275. Basically, both are fine schools and it's just a matter of splitting hairs.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

You're quoting only White student scores!?!? OMG. Take off the hood. You need to quote ALL student scores, you racist b!!!!

The poster clearly stated they were comparing the largest common cohort to factor for demographic differences and get a head to head comparison.

Clearly stated? Making the assumption the OP was White instead of referencing the "largest common cohort to factor for demographic differences"?

Why would someone suppress the data for non-white students? Why would someone stick up for someone suppressing the data for non-white students? Scary.

There's no mistaking their intent so assuming you're being intentionally obtuse, but race is a proxy for SES which impacts test scores so limiting the differences in school makeup provides a level comparison.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would check the school profiles. There's a huge difference between the two schools if you want your kid to go to college.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04424.pdf

WJ -
% of Students Meeting University System of Maryland Entrance Requirements = 67.1%
School average SAT: 1234
% of Graduates Scoring 3 or Higher on AP Test or Scoring 4 or Higher on IB Test: 70.8

Whitman -
% of Students Meeting University System of Maryland Entrance Requirements = 81.4%
School average SAT: 1339
% of Graduates Scoring 3 or Higher on AP Test or Scoring 4 or Higher on IB Test: 84.0

I prefer to use the data the county released by high school sorted by demographic cohort. This makes it easier to factor in SES differences and get a sense of how these schools really stack up.

For the largest cohort common to these two schools, Whitman has an average of 1299 vs WJ which had 1275. Basically, both are fine schools and it's just a matter of splitting hairs.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

You're quoting only White student scores!?!? OMG. Take off the hood. You need to quote ALL student scores, you racist b!!!!

The poster clearly stated they were comparing the largest common cohort to factor for demographic differences and get a head to head comparison.

Clearly stated? Making the assumption the OP was White instead of referencing the "largest common cohort to factor for demographic differences"?

Why would someone suppress the data for non-white students? Why would someone stick up for someone suppressing the data for non-white students? Scary.

There's no mistaking their intent so assuming you're being intentionally obtuse, but race is a proxy for SES which impacts test scores so limiting the differences in school makeup provides a level comparison.

Got it! Makes sense to use the largest demographic cohort common to these schools to get the most accurate comparison of the value the school adds as opposed to differences in HHI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would check the school profiles. There's a huge difference between the two schools if you want your kid to go to college.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04424.pdf

WJ -
% of Students Meeting University System of Maryland Entrance Requirements = 67.1%
School average SAT: 1234
% of Graduates Scoring 3 or Higher on AP Test or Scoring 4 or Higher on IB Test: 70.8

Whitman -
% of Students Meeting University System of Maryland Entrance Requirements = 81.4%
School average SAT: 1339
% of Graduates Scoring 3 or Higher on AP Test or Scoring 4 or Higher on IB Test: 84.0

I prefer to use the data the county released by high school sorted by demographic cohort. This makes it easier to factor in SES differences and get a sense of how these schools really stack up.

For the largest cohort common to these two schools, Whitman has an average of 1299 vs WJ which had 1275. Basically, both are fine schools and it's just a matter of splitting hairs.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

You're quoting only White student scores!?!? OMG. Take off the hood. You need to quote ALL student scores, you racist b!!!!

The poster clearly stated they were comparing the largest common cohort to factor for demographic differences and get a head to head comparison.

Clearly stated? Making the assumption the OP was White instead of referencing the "largest common cohort to factor for demographic differences"?

Why would someone suppress the data for non-white students? Why would someone stick up for someone suppressing the data for non-white students? Scary.

There's no mistaking their intent so assuming you're being intentionally obtuse, but race is a proxy for SES which impacts test scores so limiting the differences in school makeup provides a level comparison.

Got it! Makes sense to use the largest demographic cohort common to these schools to get the most accurate comparison of the value the school adds as opposed to differences in HHI.

Agree, it makes sense, but some posters will always object to a more nuanced comparison that factors for demographic differences because it reveals their segregated school doesn't really stack up.