MS Acceleration Question

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Anonymous wrote:Is your child coming from private? Is that why you say he's "done" with pre-algebra or are you supplementing outside of school?

If you are coming from private you could consider not doing AIM but I wouldn't recommend it because it's such a foundational class.

Also, only a few schools will even entertain your question. Most will tell you it's a requirement.

All topics covered in AIM are already done in 5th grade. Principal did not convince us that it is not a repeat of what DC already knows or what will DC learn new in addition to what is already done. But refuses to assign Algebra 1.
This is getting to a point that highly abled students are going to be left behind.

It is DEFINITELY not a repeat of fifth grade.

This is exactly what Principal says but then no details on what is thought at school in addition to what kid already completed? No one knows

Are you asking about what is taught in AIM? These are the units:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/middle/investigations/

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Anonymous wrote:The experience and the outcome depends on the kid...
Our DC is very good at math. this year he is in 6th grade and is finishing Algebra 1. He found the class fun and interesting. Most of his friends were 7th graders from that class. This is one class were he felt most like himself. He got a solid A. For context... He has always had very high MAP-M scores. This the spring he got over 280.

Our MS simply said that 6th graders can only be in AMP6+ or AMP7+, even though my (current) 5th grader's last MAP-M score was 266.

This is the problem we are having too. But AIM is the only option for highly abled students who going to be bored in the class room. I am worried that DC is going to refuse to go to school if they do not provide sufficient challenge.

I should clarify, they did recommend my son for AMP7+, I was just surprised at the no AIM option, since I thought AIM also had some other enrichment. He does RSM as well, so I'm not too concerned about it, though it's a bit unfortunate that there are fewer options available in public school.

These posters make me so nauseated. You are enriching with your private money and then you complain he's bored because he is so far ahead? Get a a grip. Stop enriching then. What is the point?

Yeah.. you keep watching sports and movies while these kids push themselves ahead in their life. Stop discouraging others from building a bright future for their kids.

DP, but my 5th grader has a MAP score a dozen points over the lady paying for RSM and I don’t supplement at all. Not so many sports or movies for him, he’s more of a video game kid. Not all high scoring kids have pushy parents dumping $$ into enrichment schools.

No one is saying don't supplement. People are saying that if you supplement that's great but then do not whine that your child is bored.

Doesn't the child has a right to provide appropriate level of enrichment at MCPS? what ever the level child is in so that he is not bored?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is your child coming from private? Is that why you say he's "done" with pre-algebra or are you supplementing outside of school?

If you are coming from private you could consider not doing AIM but I wouldn't recommend it because it's such a foundational class.

Also, only a few schools will even entertain your question. Most will tell you it's a requirement.

All topics covered in AIM are already done in 5th grade. Principal did not convince us that it is not a repeat of what DC already knows or what will DC learn new in addition to what is already done. But refuses to assign Algebra 1.
This is getting to a point that highly abled students are going to be left behind.

It is DEFINITELY not a repeat of fifth grade.

This is exactly what Principal says but then no details on what is thought at school in addition to what kid already completed? No one knows

Are you asking about what is taught in AIM? These are the units:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/middle/investigations/

All of these are done already including pre-algebra. What is next?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is your child coming from private? Is that why you say he's "done" with pre-algebra or are you supplementing outside of school?

If you are coming from private you could consider not doing AIM but I wouldn't recommend it because it's such a foundational class.

Also, only a few schools will even entertain your question. Most will tell you it's a requirement.

All topics covered in AIM are already done in 5th grade. Principal did not convince us that it is not a repeat of what DC already knows or what will DC learn new in addition to what is already done. But refuses to assign Algebra 1.
This is getting to a point that highly abled students are going to be left behind.

It is DEFINITELY not a repeat of fifth grade.

This is exactly what Principal says but then no details on what is thought at school in addition to what kid already completed? No one knows

Are you asking about what is taught in AIM? These are the units:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/middle/investigations/

All of these are done already including pre-algebra. What is next?

Algebra 1 is next.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is your child coming from private? Is that why you say he's "done" with pre-algebra or are you supplementing outside of school?

If you are coming from private you could consider not doing AIM but I wouldn't recommend it because it's such a foundational class.

Also, only a few schools will even entertain your question. Most will tell you it's a requirement.

All topics covered in AIM are already done in 5th grade. Principal did not convince us that it is not a repeat of what DC already knows or what will DC learn new in addition to what is already done. But refuses to assign Algebra 1.
This is getting to a point that highly abled students are going to be left behind.

It is DEFINITELY not a repeat of fifth grade.

+1. Compacted 5th grade is Math 5/6. AIM is Math 7/8.

Let us say your kid consistently score high in Maths and for instance, scored 280 in Spring 2022 MAP M. That score is 99th percentile in 10th grade, above 99th percentile in 9th, 8th and 7th and 6th grade.
What arguments will you provide that will convince me that the kid will not handle 8th grade math efficeintly?

Schools also look at maturity, executive functioning. If your child needs help accessing things on the portal themselves, needs extra help getting forming a group with kids who are a few years older, is timid about self-advocating may not be a good idea. The fact that you are on here talking about your child instead of your child asking for this is a red flag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is your child coming from private? Is that why you say he's "done" with pre-algebra or are you supplementing outside of school?

If you are coming from private you could consider not doing AIM but I wouldn't recommend it because it's such a foundational class.

Also, only a few schools will even entertain your question. Most will tell you it's a requirement.

All topics covered in AIM are already done in 5th grade. Principal did not convince us that it is not a repeat of what DC already knows or what will DC learn new in addition to what is already done. But refuses to assign Algebra 1.
This is getting to a point that highly abled students are going to be left behind.

It is DEFINITELY not a repeat of fifth grade.

This is exactly what Principal says but then no details on what is thought at school in addition to what kid already completed? No one knows

Are you asking about what is taught in AIM? These are the units:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/middle/investigations/

All of these are done already including pre-algebra. What is next?

MCPS does a lot of word problems so even if you can go through this list and think check, my child knows this topic, you may find your child can't do the work when the questions involve real-world problems or when you need to combine concepts to solve something.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is your child coming from private? Is that why you say he's "done" with pre-algebra or are you supplementing outside of school?

If you are coming from private you could consider not doing AIM but I wouldn't recommend it because it's such a foundational class.

Also, only a few schools will even entertain your question. Most will tell you it's a requirement.

All topics covered in AIM are already done in 5th grade. Principal did not convince us that it is not a repeat of what DC already knows or what will DC learn new in addition to what is already done. But refuses to assign Algebra 1.
This is getting to a point that highly abled students are going to be left behind.

It is DEFINITELY not a repeat of fifth grade.

+1. Compacted 5th grade is Math 5/6. AIM is Math 7/8.

Let us say your kid consistently score high in Maths and for instance, scored 280 in Spring 2022 MAP M. That score is 99th percentile in 10th grade, above 99th percentile in 9th, 8th and 7th and 6th grade.
What arguments will you provide that will convince me that the kid will not handle 8th grade math efficeintly?

Schools also look at maturity, executive functioning. If your child needs help accessing things on the portal themselves, needs extra help getting forming a group with kids who are a few years older, is timid about self-advocating may not be a good idea. The fact that you are on here talking about your child instead of your child asking for this is a red flag.

DP. Uh huh. Yes. We all know that children always ask for what's good for their careers and life down the road. Sure.

By that logic, parents and teachers should just say, "hey kids - you know best so you go on ahead and do whatever you'd like to! If you want to learn, that's okay with us, but you have to ask for it." (what kind of f*ing idiot are you..)

Oh, wait. Isn't that's what's happening at MCPS this week? They aren't even teaching anymore this week - it's all movies!

[Anonymous]

Abusive much? If you're going to respond to a thread about math pathways by calling strangers on the internet an expletive idiot you need serious mental health services. I'm not trying to be mean. I just think you need to get a grip on life. It's shocking to come to this kind of thread and find this kind of emotional explosion that PP just had.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is your child coming from private? Is that why you say he's "done" with pre-algebra or are you supplementing outside of school?

If you are coming from private you could consider not doing AIM but I wouldn't recommend it because it's such a foundational class.

Also, only a few schools will even entertain your question. Most will tell you it's a requirement.

All topics covered in AIM are already done in 5th grade. Principal did not convince us that it is not a repeat of what DC already knows or what will DC learn new in addition to what is already done. But refuses to assign Algebra 1.
This is getting to a point that highly abled students are going to be left behind.

It is DEFINITELY not a repeat of fifth grade.

+1. Compacted 5th grade is Math 5/6. AIM is Math 7/8.

Let us say your kid consistently score high in Maths and for instance, scored 280 in Spring 2022 MAP M. That score is 99th percentile in 10th grade, above 99th percentile in 9th, 8th and 7th and 6th grade.
What arguments will you provide that will convince me that the kid will not handle 8th grade math efficeintly?

Schools also look at maturity, executive functioning. If your child needs help accessing things on the portal themselves, needs extra help getting forming a group with kids who are a few years older, is timid about self-advocating may not be a good idea. The fact that you are on here talking about your child instead of your child asking for this is a red flag.

Ha! We have done this path before, and I assure you no administrator or teacher in 1000+ student population middle school is going to assess the executive functioning or maturity of the kid. It's all about the data (MAPs, MCAP, etc.), IF they are even amenable to that. The kid has to be an outlier in the data. And you won't really know for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is your child coming from private? Is that why you say he's "done" with pre-algebra or are you supplementing outside of school?

If you are coming from private you could consider not doing AIM but I wouldn't recommend it because it's such a foundational class.

Also, only a few schools will even entertain your question. Most will tell you it's a requirement.

All topics covered in AIM are already done in 5th grade. Principal did not convince us that it is not a repeat of what DC already knows or what will DC learn new in addition to what is already done. But refuses to assign Algebra 1.
This is getting to a point that highly abled students are going to be left behind.

It is DEFINITELY not a repeat of fifth grade.

+1. Compacted 5th grade is Math 5/6. AIM is Math 7/8.

Let us say your kid consistently score high in Maths and for instance, scored 280 in Spring 2022 MAP M. That score is 99th percentile in 10th grade, above 99th percentile in 9th, 8th and 7th and 6th grade.
What arguments will you provide that will convince me that the kid will not handle 8th grade math efficeintly?

Schools also look at maturity, executive functioning. If your child needs help accessing things on the portal themselves, needs extra help getting forming a group with kids who are a few years older, is timid about self-advocating may not be a good idea. The fact that you are on here talking about your child instead of your child asking for this is a red flag.

DP. Uh huh. Yes. We all know that children always ask for what's good for their careers and life down the road. Sure.

By that logic, parents and teachers should just say, "hey kids - you know best so you go on ahead and do whatever you'd like to! If you want to learn, that's okay with us, but you have to ask for it." (what kind of f*ing idiot are you..)

Oh, wait. Isn't that's what's happening at MCPS this week? They aren't even teaching anymore this week - it's all movies!

That's not true. My kids have tests almost everyday up until Friday. You're either making this up to justify your misery or not paying attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is your child coming from private? Is that why you say he's "done" with pre-algebra or are you supplementing outside of school?

If you are coming from private you could consider not doing AIM but I wouldn't recommend it because it's such a foundational class.

Also, only a few schools will even entertain your question. Most will tell you it's a requirement.

All topics covered in AIM are already done in 5th grade. Principal did not convince us that it is not a repeat of what DC already knows or what will DC learn new in addition to what is already done. But refuses to assign Algebra 1.
This is getting to a point that highly abled students are going to be left behind.

It is DEFINITELY not a repeat of fifth grade.

+1. Compacted 5th grade is Math 5/6. AIM is Math 7/8.

Let us say your kid consistently score high in Maths and for instance, scored 280 in Spring 2022 MAP M. That score is 99th percentile in 10th grade, above 99th percentile in 9th, 8th and 7th and 6th grade.
What arguments will you provide that will convince me that the kid will not handle 8th grade math efficeintly?

Schools also look at maturity, executive functioning. If your child needs help accessing things on the portal themselves, needs extra help getting forming a group with kids who are a few years older, is timid about self-advocating may not be a good idea. The fact that you are on here talking about your child instead of your child asking for this is a red flag.

Ha! We have done this path before, and I assure you no administrator or teacher in 1000+ student population middle school is going to assess the executive functioning or maturity of the kid. It's all about the data (MAPs, MCAP, etc.), IF they are even amenable to that. The kid has to be an outlier in the data. And you won't really know for sure.

Our school did. It was a very involved process that went beyond the scores. I don't know why you think you're superior and you know everything about every school in the county or the world.
It was done by the math department and then if they "passed" the child for acceleration it required approval of the grade level principal. I think only one child actually was allowed and the many others were told they were too dumb basically and to take the regular high track.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is your child coming from private? Is that why you say he's "done" with pre-algebra or are you supplementing outside of school?

If you are coming from private you could consider not doing AIM but I wouldn't recommend it because it's such a foundational class.

Also, only a few schools will even entertain your question. Most will tell you it's a requirement.

All topics covered in AIM are already done in 5th grade. Principal did not convince us that it is not a repeat of what DC already knows or what will DC learn new in addition to what is already done. But refuses to assign Algebra 1.
This is getting to a point that highly abled students are going to be left behind.

It is DEFINITELY not a repeat of fifth grade.

+1. Compacted 5th grade is Math 5/6. AIM is Math 7/8.

Let us say your kid consistently score high in Maths and for instance, scored 280 in Spring 2022 MAP M. That score is 99th percentile in 10th grade, above 99th percentile in 9th, 8th and 7th and 6th grade.
What arguments will you provide that will convince me that the kid will not handle 8th grade math efficeintly?

Schools also look at maturity, executive functioning. If your child needs help accessing things on the portal themselves, needs extra help getting forming a group with kids who are a few years older, is timid about self-advocating may not be a good idea. The fact that you are on here talking about your child instead of your child asking for this is a red flag.

DP. Uh huh. Yes. We all know that children always ask for what's good for their careers and life down the road. Sure.

By that logic, parents and teachers should just say, "hey kids - you know best so you go on ahead and do whatever you'd like to! If you want to learn, that's okay with us, but you have to ask for it." (what kind of f*ing idiot are you..)

Oh, wait. Isn't that's what's happening at MCPS this week? They aren't even teaching anymore this week - it's all movies!

That's not true. My kids have tests almost everyday up until Friday. You're either making this up to justify your misery or not paying attention.

Same here with assignments due up until tomorrow.
There are a few immature posters on this thread. Maybe they are middle schoolers or high schoolers?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The experience and the outcome depends on the kid...
Our DC is very good at math. this year he is in 6th grade and is finishing Algebra 1. He found the class fun and interesting. Most of his friends were 7th graders from that class. This is one class were he felt most like himself. He got a solid A. For context... He has always had very high MAP-M scores. This the spring he got over 280.

Our MS simply said that 6th graders can only be in AMP6+ or AMP7+, even though my (current) 5th grader's last MAP-M score was 266.

This is the problem we are having too. But AIM is the only option for highly abled students who going to be bored in the class room. I am worried that DC is going to refuse to go to school if they do not provide sufficient challenge.

I should clarify, they did recommend my son for AMP7+, I was just surprised at the no AIM option, since I thought AIM also had some other enrichment. He does RSM as well, so I'm not too concerned about it, though it's a bit unfortunate that there are fewer options available in public school.

These posters make me so nauseated. You are enriching with your private money and then you complain he's bored because he is so far ahead? Get a a grip. Stop enriching then. What is the point?

Yeah.. you keep watching sports and movies while these kids push themselves ahead in their life. Stop discouraging others from building a bright future for their kids.

DP, but my 5th grader has a MAP score a dozen points over the lady paying for RSM and I don’t supplement at all. Not so many sports or movies for him, he’s more of a video game kid. Not all high scoring kids have pushy parents dumping $$ into enrichment schools.

No one is saying don't supplement. People are saying that if you supplement that's great but then do not whine that your child is bored.

Doesn't the child has a right to provide appropriate level of enrichment at MCPS? what ever the level child is in so that he is not bored?

In MCPS, except if you are one of the few chosen, no. As a parent, supplement. They are offering free tutoring, use it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is your child coming from private? Is that why you say he's "done" with pre-algebra or are you supplementing outside of school?

If you are coming from private you could consider not doing AIM but I wouldn't recommend it because it's such a foundational class.

Also, only a few schools will even entertain your question. Most will tell you it's a requirement.

All topics covered in AIM are already done in 5th grade. Principal did not convince us that it is not a repeat of what DC already knows or what will DC learn new in addition to what is already done. But refuses to assign Algebra 1.
This is getting to a point that highly abled students are going to be left behind.

It is DEFINITELY not a repeat of fifth grade.

+1. Compacted 5th grade is Math 5/6. AIM is Math 7/8.

Let us say your kid consistently score high in Maths and for instance, scored 280 in Spring 2022 MAP M. That score is 99th percentile in 10th grade, above 99th percentile in 9th, 8th and 7th and 6th grade.
What arguments will you provide that will convince me that the kid will not handle 8th grade math efficeintly?

Schools also look at maturity, executive functioning. If your child needs help accessing things on the portal themselves, needs extra help getting forming a group with kids who are a few years older, is timid about self-advocating may not be a good idea. The fact that you are on here talking about your child instead of your child asking for this is a red flag.

DP. Uh huh. Yes. We all know that children always ask for what's good for their careers and life down the road. Sure.

By that logic, parents and teachers should just say, "hey kids - you know best so you go on ahead and do whatever you'd like to! If you want to learn, that's okay with us, but you have to ask for it." (what kind of f*ing idiot are you..)

Oh, wait. Isn't that's what's happening at MCPS this week? They aren't even teaching anymore this week - it's all movies!

That's not true. My kids have tests almost everyday up until Friday. You're either making this up to justify your misery or not paying attention.

Same here with assignments due up until tomorrow.
There are a few immature posters on this thread. Maybe they are middle schoolers or high schoolers?

It has to be HS. Our MS has no tests.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is your child coming from private? Is that why you say he's "done" with pre-algebra or are you supplementing outside of school?

If you are coming from private you could consider not doing AIM but I wouldn't recommend it because it's such a foundational class.

Also, only a few schools will even entertain your question. Most will tell you it's a requirement.

All topics covered in AIM are already done in 5th grade. Principal did not convince us that it is not a repeat of what DC already knows or what will DC learn new in addition to what is already done. But refuses to assign Algebra 1.
This is getting to a point that highly abled students are going to be left behind.

It is DEFINITELY not a repeat of fifth grade.

+1. Compacted 5th grade is Math 5/6. AIM is Math 7/8.

Let us say your kid consistently score high in Maths and for instance, scored 280 in Spring 2022 MAP M. That score is 99th percentile in 10th grade, above 99th percentile in 9th, 8th and 7th and 6th grade.
What arguments will you provide that will convince me that the kid will not handle 8th grade math efficeintly?

Schools also look at maturity, executive functioning. If your child needs help accessing things on the portal themselves, needs extra help getting forming a group with kids who are a few years older, is timid about self-advocating may not be a good idea. The fact that you are on here talking about your child instead of your child asking for this is a red flag.

Ha! We have done this path before, and I assure you no administrator or teacher in 1000+ student population middle school is going to assess the executive functioning or maturity of the kid. It's all about the data (MAPs, MCAP, etc.), IF they are even amenable to that. The kid has to be an outlier in the data. And you won't really know for sure.

Our school did. It was a very involved process that went beyond the scores. I don't know why you think you're superior and you know everything about every school in the county or the world.
It was done by the math department and then if they "passed" the child for acceleration it required approval of the grade level principal. I think only one child actually was allowed and the many others were told they were too dumb basically and to take the regular high track.

What was the "involved process"?

Thanks!