MS Acceleration Question

[Anonymous]

Mine did Algebra starting in 6th. We had child do a summer pre-algebra/algebra class the summer before. AIM is basically pre-algebra.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And, yes, the russianschool.com does support the freedom for Ukraine, if anyone does want to enroll.

https://www.russianschool.com/blog/news-and-events/our-statement-on-the-russian-military-invasion-of-ukraine

I mean. Sort of. https://www.wgbh.org/news/national-news/2022/03/24/russian-school-of-math-co-founder-blasted-for-saying-ukraine-shares-blame-in-death-toll

Suggesting Ukraine should have just "surrendered peacefully" and abandoned their sovereignty is not exactly full-throated support for democratic principles.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The experience and the outcome depends on the kid...
Our DC is very good at math. this year he is in 6th grade and is finishing Algebra 1. He found the class fun and interesting. Most of his friends were 7th graders from that class. This is one class were he felt most like himself. He got a solid A. For context... He has always had very high MAP-M scores. This the spring he got over 280.

Our MS simply said that 6th graders can only be in AMP6+ or AMP7+, even though my (current) 5th grader's last MAP-M score was 266.

This is the problem we are having too. But AIM is the only option for highly abled students who going to be bored in the class room. I am worried that DC is going to refuse to go to school if they do not provide sufficient challenge.

I should clarify, they did recommend my son for AMP7+, I was just surprised at the no AIM option, since I thought AIM also had some other enrichment. He does RSM as well, so I'm not too concerned about it, though it's a bit unfortunate that there are fewer options available in public school.

I know of no school that does not have AIM. All middle schools last time I checked have AIM. I call troll. Name your school.

With the new curriculum, they are phasing out AIM. The same group of kids who would have been placed in AIM will now be in AMP7+

It's not a conspiracy or trolling, just a shift in the curricular provider.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The experience and the outcome depends on the kid...
Our DC is very good at math. this year he is in 6th grade and is finishing Algebra 1. He found the class fun and interesting. Most of his friends were 7th graders from that class. This is one class were he felt most like himself. He got a solid A. For context... He has always had very high MAP-M scores. This the spring he got over 280.

Our MS simply said that 6th graders can only be in AMP6+ or AMP7+, even though my (current) 5th grader's last MAP-M score was 266.

This is the problem we are having too. But AIM is the only option for highly abled students who going to be bored in the class room. I am worried that DC is going to refuse to go to school if they do not provide sufficient challenge.

I should clarify, they did recommend my son for AMP7+, I was just surprised at the no AIM option, since I thought AIM also had some other enrichment. He does RSM as well, so I'm not too concerned about it, though it's a bit unfortunate that there are fewer options available in public school.

These posters make me so nauseated. You are enriching with your private money and then you complain he's bored because he is so far ahead? Get a a grip. Stop enriching then. What is the point?

Yeah.. you keep watching sports and movies while these kids push themselves ahead in their life. Stop discouraging others from building a bright future for their kids.

DP, but my 5th grader has a MAP score a dozen points over the lady paying for RSM and I don’t supplement at all. Not so many sports or movies for him, he’s more of a video game kid. Not all high scoring kids have pushy parents dumping $$ into enrichment schools.

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Anonymous wrote:The experience and the outcome depends on the kid...
Our DC is very good at math. this year he is in 6th grade and is finishing Algebra 1. He found the class fun and interesting. Most of his friends were 7th graders from that class. This is one class were he felt most like himself. He got a solid A. For context... He has always had very high MAP-M scores. This the spring he got over 280.

Our MS simply said that 6th graders can only be in AMP6+ or AMP7+, even though my (current) 5th grader's last MAP-M score was 266.

This is the problem we are having too. But AIM is the only option for highly abled students who going to be bored in the class room. I am worried that DC is going to refuse to go to school if they do not provide sufficient challenge.

I should clarify, they did recommend my son for AMP7+, I was just surprised at the no AIM option, since I thought AIM also had some other enrichment. He does RSM as well, so I'm not too concerned about it, though it's a bit unfortunate that there are fewer options available in public school.

These posters make me so nauseated. You are enriching with your private money and then you complain he's bored because he is so far ahead? Get a a grip. Stop enriching then. What is the point?

Yeah.. you keep watching sports and movies while these kids push themselves ahead in their life. Stop discouraging others from building a bright future for their kids.

DP, but my 5th grader has a MAP score a dozen points over the lady paying for RSM and I don’t supplement at all. Not so many sports or movies for him, he’s more of a video game kid. Not all high scoring kids have pushy parents dumping $$ into enrichment schools.

That's really up to you. We don't pay for RSM to increase his MAP scores (in fact they were already very good before he started), we pay for it to expand his math horizons. We're also a math family and our kids really enjoy RSM (as well as video games and shows, and a couple of sporty activities.) A lot of parents around here pay for RSM and if they don't, they pay for other enrichment. Everyone does what they think is appropriate for their kid (Yes, RSM is over $2,000 a year, but so are other school activities, camps, etc, once you add everything up.) I never said everyone should do RSM (not did I say I agree with the founder's political opinions of course), I just noted that we feel it's better than public school math *in our opinion.* And again, I wish less privileged kids had more opportunities like RSM...

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Anonymous wrote:The experience and the outcome depends on the kid...
Our DC is very good at math. this year he is in 6th grade and is finishing Algebra 1. He found the class fun and interesting. Most of his friends were 7th graders from that class. This is one class were he felt most like himself. He got a solid A. For context... He has always had very high MAP-M scores. This the spring he got over 280.

Thankyou for the information. my DD also loves maths and consistently scores higher on Maths close to that range in 5th grade. We are worried because MCPS does not seems to have a plan for enrichment in MS.

WT actual F are you talking about??? There are so many options for accelerated pathways in math that it’s ridiculous. In no way is it accurate to say that there is no plan for enrichment in middle school!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is your child coming from private? Is that why you say he's "done" with pre-algebra or are you supplementing outside of school?

If you are coming from private you could consider not doing AIM but I wouldn't recommend it because it's such a foundational class.

Also, only a few schools will even entertain your question. Most will tell you it's a requirement.

All topics covered in AIM are already done in 5th grade. Principal did not convince us that it is not a repeat of what DC already knows or what will DC learn new in addition to what is already done. But refuses to assign Algebra 1.
This is getting to a point that highly abled students are going to be left behind.

It is DEFINITELY not a repeat of fifth grade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is your child coming from private? Is that why you say he's "done" with pre-algebra or are you supplementing outside of school?

If you are coming from private you could consider not doing AIM but I wouldn't recommend it because it's such a foundational class.

Also, only a few schools will even entertain your question. Most will tell you it's a requirement.

All topics covered in AIM are already done in 5th grade. Principal did not convince us that it is not a repeat of what DC already knows or what will DC learn new in addition to what is already done. But refuses to assign Algebra 1.
This is getting to a point that highly abled students are going to be left behind.

It is DEFINITELY not a repeat of fifth grade.

+1. Compacted 5th grade is Math 5/6. AIM is Math 7/8.

[Anonymous]

Math 5/6 is the last half of Math 5 plus Math 6. AIM is all of Math 7 plus Math 8 -- a bit more dense.

Math 7+ is the last half of Math 7 plus Math 8, so it has a similar density of material to Math 5/6, but still gets a student ready for Algebra. The problem with going from Math 5/6 to Math 7+ is that the first half of Math 7 is missed (when compared to AIM). This may not present much harm if that first half of Math 7 is largely a review of concepts covered in earlier years; certainly, there are such gaps that get overcome by students who skip ahead via independent learning or coverage of concepts in later courses.

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Anonymous wrote:The experience and the outcome depends on the kid...
Our DC is very good at math. this year he is in 6th grade and is finishing Algebra 1. He found the class fun and interesting. Most of his friends were 7th graders from that class. This is one class were he felt most like himself. He got a solid A. For context... He has always had very high MAP-M scores. This the spring he got over 280.

Our MS simply said that 6th graders can only be in AMP6+ or AMP7+, even though my (current) 5th grader's last MAP-M score was 266.

This is the problem we are having too. But AIM is the only option for highly abled students who going to be bored in the class room. I am worried that DC is going to refuse to go to school if they do not provide sufficient challenge.

I should clarify, they did recommend my son for AMP7+, I was just surprised at the no AIM option, since I thought AIM also had some other enrichment. He does RSM as well, so I'm not too concerned about it, though it's a bit unfortunate that there are fewer options available in public school.

These posters make me so nauseated. You are enriching with your private money and then you complain he's bored because he is so far ahead? Get a a grip. Stop enriching then. What is the point?

Yeah.. you keep watching sports and movies while these kids push themselves ahead in their life. Stop discouraging others from building a bright future for their kids.

DP, but my 5th grader has a MAP score a dozen points over the lady paying for RSM and I don’t supplement at all. Not so many sports or movies for him, he’s more of a video game kid. Not all high scoring kids have pushy parents dumping $$ into enrichment schools.

No one is saying don't supplement. People are saying that if you supplement that's great but then do not whine that your child is bored.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The experience and the outcome depends on the kid...
Our DC is very good at math. this year he is in 6th grade and is finishing Algebra 1. He found the class fun and interesting. Most of his friends were 7th graders from that class. This is one class were he felt most like himself. He got a solid A. For context... He has always had very high MAP-M scores. This the spring he got over 280.

Our MS simply said that 6th graders can only be in AMP6+ or AMP7+, even though my (current) 5th grader's last MAP-M score was 266.

This is the problem we are having too. But AIM is the only option for highly abled students who going to be bored in the class room. I am worried that DC is going to refuse to go to school if they do not provide sufficient challenge.

I should clarify, they did recommend my son for AMP7+, I was just surprised at the no AIM option, since I thought AIM also had some other enrichment. He does RSM as well, so I'm not too concerned about it, though it's a bit unfortunate that there are fewer options available in public school.

These posters make me so nauseated. You are enriching with your private money and then you complain he's bored because he is so far ahead? Get a a grip. Stop enriching then. What is the point?

Yeah.. you keep watching sports and movies while these kids push themselves ahead in their life. Stop discouraging others from building a bright future for their kids.

DP, but my 5th grader has a MAP score a dozen points over the lady paying for RSM and I don’t supplement at all. Not so many sports or movies for him, he’s more of a video game kid. Not all high scoring kids have pushy parents dumping $$ into enrichment schools.

No one is saying don't supplement. People are saying that if you supplement that's great but then do not whine that your child is bored.

Totally. And I agree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And, yes, the russianschool.com does support the freedom for Ukraine, if anyone does want to enroll.

https://www.russianschool.com/blog/news-and-events/our-statement-on-the-russian-military-invasion-of-ukraine

I mean. Sort of. https://www.wgbh.org/news/national-news/2022/03/24/russian-school-of-math-co-founder-blasted-for-saying-ukraine-shares-blame-in-death-toll

Suggesting Ukraine should have just "surrendered peacefully" and abandoned their sovereignty is not exactly full-throated support for democratic principles.

Thank you for sharing. This is good to know.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The experience and the outcome depends on the kid...
Our DC is very good at math. this year he is in 6th grade and is finishing Algebra 1. He found the class fun and interesting. Most of his friends were 7th graders from that class. This is one class were he felt most like himself. He got a solid A. For context... He has always had very high MAP-M scores. This the spring he got over 280.

Our MS simply said that 6th graders can only be in AMP6+ or AMP7+, even though my (current) 5th grader's last MAP-M score was 266.

This is the problem we are having too. But AIM is the only option for highly abled students who going to be bored in the class room. I am worried that DC is going to refuse to go to school if they do not provide sufficient challenge.

I should clarify, they did recommend my son for AMP7+, I was just surprised at the no AIM option, since I thought AIM also had some other enrichment. He does RSM as well, so I'm not too concerned about it, though it's a bit unfortunate that there are fewer options available in public school.

These posters make me so nauseated. You are enriching with your private money and then you complain he's bored because he is so far ahead? Get a a grip. Stop enriching then. What is the point?

Yeah.. you keep watching sports and movies while these kids push themselves ahead in their life. Stop discouraging others from building a bright future for their kids.

DP, but my 5th grader has a MAP score a dozen points over the lady paying for RSM and I don’t supplement at all. Not so many sports or movies for him, he’s more of a video game kid. Not all high scoring kids have pushy parents dumping $$ into enrichment schools.

True. Most highly abled students does not have pushy parents but this idea of pushy parents are floated by some who does not like any competition to help kids reach their potential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is your child coming from private? Is that why you say he's "done" with pre-algebra or are you supplementing outside of school?

If you are coming from private you could consider not doing AIM but I wouldn't recommend it because it's such a foundational class.

Also, only a few schools will even entertain your question. Most will tell you it's a requirement.

All topics covered in AIM are already done in 5th grade. Principal did not convince us that it is not a repeat of what DC already knows or what will DC learn new in addition to what is already done. But refuses to assign Algebra 1.
This is getting to a point that highly abled students are going to be left behind.

It is DEFINITELY not a repeat of fifth grade.

This is exactly what Principal says but then no details on what is thought at school in addition to what kid already completed? No one knows

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is your child coming from private? Is that why you say he's "done" with pre-algebra or are you supplementing outside of school?

If you are coming from private you could consider not doing AIM but I wouldn't recommend it because it's such a foundational class.

Also, only a few schools will even entertain your question. Most will tell you it's a requirement.

All topics covered in AIM are already done in 5th grade. Principal did not convince us that it is not a repeat of what DC already knows or what will DC learn new in addition to what is already done. But refuses to assign Algebra 1.
This is getting to a point that highly abled students are going to be left behind.

It is DEFINITELY not a repeat of fifth grade.

+1. Compacted 5th grade is Math 5/6. AIM is Math 7/8.

Let us say your kid consistently score high in Maths and for instance, scored 280 in Spring 2022 MAP M. That score is 99th percentile in 10th grade, above 99th percentile in 9th, 8th and 7th and 6th grade.
What arguments will you provide that will convince me that the kid will not handle 8th grade math efficeintly?