How do you feel about genderless restrooms in schools?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. The things that go on in bathrooms at schools are disturbing. All bathrooms should be singular. That way, gender does not matter but it is also safe and private.

This. It was disturbing what was going on in school bathrooms when I was a kid in the 80s. I am amazed that schools have not gone to individual bathrooms.

Perhaps the cost and space to makes dozens of individual bathrooms is a reason they don't do that. And there is nothing to keep multiple people from going to an individual bathroom to get stoned if they want to. The idea just has no value.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am fully on board with single-stall unisex bathrooms. If you’re talking about having boys and girls in the same multiple-stall bathroom, hell no.

this

Some DC schools have converted their former multiple stall bathroom in to genderless bathrooms. I struggle with that. I see the point of single stalls, but this seems like a prescription for trouble, not least of which could be sexual assault. This means a sixth grade girl could share a multiple-stall bathroom with an eighth grade boy, no? Again, am I missing something?

You’re missing that a few schools bumped up grade 5 to middle school . Even more extreme

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this is called "tyranny by the tiny loud minority"

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is my understanding that Gaithersburg HS was the first MCPS school to try out genderless bathrooms. The one I saw was a single stall bathroom that was probably previously used by staff. It was right next to a girls bathroom & it was implemented pretty seamlessly.

So one such single toilet bathroom, not a recap of every bathroom in all of the county?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is my understanding that Gaithersburg HS was the first MCPS school to try out genderless bathrooms. The one I saw was a single stall bathroom that was probably previously used by staff. It was right next to a girls bathroom & it was implemented pretty seamlessly.

So one such single toilet bathroom, not a recap of every bathroom in all of the county?

I'm saying this is the one I saw in person since it's near where events were held in the cafeteria. There are others throughout the school. I'm also saying it worked out just fine. The kids and parents never made an issue out of it. Business as usual. NBD.

[Anonymous]

Why was this even posted on the private school forum without any context? Maybe the thread should moved to general education posts since much of the commentary seems to relate to bathroom issues and public schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This post reads as yet another attempt to lob a culture war bomb into the room and watch people run in terror as it explodes. I don't know of a single independent school in the area that has multi-stall gender-neutral bathrooms. All of them are single-stall bathrooms. As posters have mentioned, bad stuff happens in whatever type of bathroom you have. Given the nature of the business you do in there, it's one of the few places in a school that offers any semblance of privacy, which means some kids will take advantage of it.

Our k-8 has multi-stall (something like 3 or 4) gender neutral bathrooms. Another poster mentioned theirs did too.

I mentioned ours but only one student goes in at a time, hence the “occupied” sign on the door. It’s a total non-issue.

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Sounds good. Hopefully nobody abuses the "occupied" sign to keep others out -- i.e. if two kids went in at the same time to hook up etc.

I see the pros and cons of both sides of the argument for genderless facility, but if any abuse ever happens as a result of this, it will be a grave mistake.

Our school is small (less than 100 in grades 6-8) and the bathrooms are right outside the classrooms so pretty well monitored. A sexual assault is no more likely in a single-use than a multi-stall bathroom but nice try with your fear no getting.

[Anonymous]

*fear mongering

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why was this even posted on the private school forum without any context? Maybe the thread should moved to general education posts since much of the commentary seems to relate to bathroom issues and public schools.

Because a couple of local privates have implemented this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This post reads as yet another attempt to lob a culture war bomb into the room and watch people run in terror as it explodes. I don't know of a single independent school in the area that has multi-stall gender-neutral bathrooms. All of them are single-stall bathrooms. As posters have mentioned, bad stuff happens in whatever type of bathroom you have. Given the nature of the business you do in there, it's one of the few places in a school that offers any semblance of privacy, which means some kids will take advantage of it.

Our k-8 has multi-stall (something like 3 or 4) gender neutral bathrooms. Another poster mentioned theirs did too.

I mentioned ours but only one student goes in at a time, hence the “occupied” sign on the door. It’s a total non-issue.

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Sounds good. Hopefully nobody abuses the "occupied" sign to keep others out -- i.e. if two kids went in at the same time to hook up etc.

I see the pros and cons of both sides of the argument for genderless facility, but if any abuse ever happens as a result of this, it will be a grave mistake.

Our school is small (less than 100 in grades 6-8) and the bathrooms are right outside the classrooms so pretty well monitored. A sexual assault is no more likely in a single-use than a multi-stall bathroom but nice try with your fear no getting.

Interesting. Where's your data for this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This post reads as yet another attempt to lob a culture war bomb into the room and watch people run in terror as it explodes. I don't know of a single independent school in the area that has multi-stall gender-neutral bathrooms. All of them are single-stall bathrooms. As posters have mentioned, bad stuff happens in whatever type of bathroom you have. Given the nature of the business you do in there, it's one of the few places in a school that offers any semblance of privacy, which means some kids will take advantage of it.

Our k-8 has multi-stall (something like 3 or 4) gender neutral bathrooms. Another poster mentioned theirs did too.

I mentioned ours but only one student goes in at a time, hence the “occupied” sign on the door. It’s a total non-issue.

"
Sounds good. Hopefully nobody abuses the "occupied" sign to keep others out -- i.e. if two kids went in at the same time to hook up etc.

I see the pros and cons of both sides of the argument for genderless facility, but if any abuse ever happens as a result of this, it will be a grave mistake.

Our school is small (less than 100 in grades 6-8) and the bathrooms are right outside the classrooms so pretty well monitored. A sexual assault is no more likely in a single-use than a multi-stall bathroom but nice try with your fear no getting.

Interesting. Where's your data for this?

There is zero evidence that all gender/gender neutral bathrooms increase sexual assaults. Where is the evidence that they do?

In fact, several studies show that trans students are more likely to be sexually assaulted in gendered multi-stall restrooms. Just Google and you’ll easily find those.

[Anonymous]

There’s no evidence of anything anymore. Carry on.

[Anonymous]

People are entitled to feel how ever they feel about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. The things that go on in bathrooms at schools are disturbing. All bathrooms should be singular. That way, gender does not matter but it is also safe and private.

This is where $$$ should go, not CRT and gender garbage for 5 year olds.

Definitely don't expect your DC to turn to you in time of need with such rigidity of thought.

[Anonymous]

For those who want to read actual studies, here is a long and detailed one.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioural-public-policy/article/genderneutral-bathroom-a-new-frame-and-some-nudges/C6CDCA42BAEBCE684B243EB9773A771C