How do you feel about genderless restrooms in schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. The things that go on in bathrooms at schools are disturbing. All bathrooms should be singular. That way, gender does not matter but it is also safe and private.

Another teacher, and I totally agree.

Especially MS and HS bathrooms.

Pre-pandemic, smoking, vaping, and hooking up got so bad at my HS that every restroom had all but 1 stall locked. Then by the end of the year, restrooms were locked except during class changes and lunch when there were teacher & admin monitors.

Was this in a private high school? Just curious.

[Anonymous]

Haven’t really considered for K-12 but my dorm bathrooms at college were co-ed and it really was not a big deal. It freaked my parent’s out when they dropped me off but it was totally normal after a day or two to see your other gender hall mate getting out of the shower or brushing their teeth….

[Anonymous]

Locked singular bathrooms? Yikes. That sounds really unsafe. Seems like the kind of place girls could easily be raped, kids could hook up, do drugs, OD on the floor and you'd need a janitor key to open it.

In general I do think bathrooms should be redefined to be genderless. There could be a large "urinal area" and then the stalls and sinks are all in a different area. I'm frustrated as a female that I constantly have to wait in line in public (outside of schools). Men's bathrooms are just as big and have zero lines. Genderless would also help me because then DH could be there and we could take our twins and then baby at the same time together.

Also, I just want to add that boys are no worse at going to the bathroom than girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. The things that go on in bathrooms at schools are disturbing. All bathrooms should be singular. That way, gender does not matter but it is also safe and private.

Another teacher, and I totally agree.

Especially MS and HS bathrooms.

Pre-pandemic, smoking, vaping, and hooking up got so bad at my HS that every restroom had all but 1 stall locked. Then by the end of the year, restrooms were locked except during class changes and lunch when there were teacher & admin monitors.

Sounds like the Administrator who posted previously may be out of touch with what is really going on at their school.

??? I don't think you read that post very well.

In any event, in our current pandemic secondary school, our bathrooms are closed during class changes and lunch. The only times bathrooms are open is when there is an adult standing outside the doorway monitoring behavior and allowing only 2 students at a time to be in the room. Vaping and other disturbing behaviors are the primary reasons.

I agree with the parent who pointed out that mixed use multiple-stall bathrooms could cause a problem. She mentioned a 6th grade girl and an 8th grade boy both being in the bathroom at the same time. That seems open to all sorts of unintended consequences. I, for sure, would not want to use the bathroom when an 8th grade boy was in there, and I am a grown woman. Not that I would be scared but that it just seems wildly inappropriate. I think nothing of using the bathroom when I (a female) use the girls bathroom and there are girls in there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. The things that go on in bathrooms at schools are disturbing. All bathrooms should be singular. That way, gender does not matter but it is also safe and private.

Another teacher, and I totally agree.

Especially MS and HS bathrooms.

Pre-pandemic, smoking, vaping, and hooking up got so bad at my HS that every restroom had all but 1 stall locked. Then by the end of the year, restrooms were locked except during class changes and lunch when there were teacher & admin monitors.

Sounds like the Administrator who posted previously may be out of touch with what is really going on at their school.

??? I don't think you read that post very well.

In any event, in our current pandemic secondary school, our bathrooms are closed during class changes and lunch. The only times bathrooms are open is when there is an adult standing outside the doorway monitoring behavior and allowing only 2 students at a time to be in the room. Vaping and other disturbing behaviors are the primary reasons.

I agree with the parent who pointed out that mixed use multiple-stall bathrooms could cause a problem. She mentioned a 6th grade girl and an 8th grade boy both being in the bathroom at the same time. That seems open to all sorts of unintended consequences. I, for sure, would not want to use the bathroom when an 8th grade boy was in there, and I am a grown woman. Not that I would be scared but that it just seems wildly inappropriate. I think nothing of using the bathroom when I (a female) use the girls bathroom and there are girls in there.

Yes, I did read it correctly. Administrator bad things happen in single stalls. Then you have a teacher saying bad things happen in the multi-stall bathrooms. Perhaps they need to have kids use a badge to enter bathroom or use a code to enter? At least there would be a record of who was in there and for how long.

[Anonymous]

This post reads as yet another attempt to lob a culture war bomb into the room and watch people run in terror as it explodes. I don't know of a single independent school in the area that has multi-stall gender-neutral bathrooms. All of them are single-stall bathrooms. As posters have mentioned, bad stuff happens in whatever type of bathroom you have. Given the nature of the business you do in there, it's one of the few places in a school that offers any semblance of privacy, which means some kids will take advantage of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. The things that go on in bathrooms at schools are disturbing. All bathrooms should be singular. That way, gender does not matter but it is also safe and private.

Another teacher, and I totally agree.

Especially MS and HS bathrooms.

Pre-pandemic, smoking, vaping, and hooking up got so bad at my HS that every restroom had all but 1 stall locked. Then by the end of the year, restrooms were locked except during class changes and lunch when there were teacher & admin monitors.

Sounds like the Administrator who posted previously may be out of touch with what is really going on at their school.

??? I don't think you read that post very well.

In any event, in our current pandemic secondary school, our bathrooms are closed during class changes and lunch. The only times bathrooms are open is when there is an adult standing outside the doorway monitoring behavior and allowing only 2 students at a time to be in the room. Vaping and other disturbing behaviors are the primary reasons.

I agree with the parent who pointed out that mixed use multiple-stall bathrooms could cause a problem. She mentioned a 6th grade girl and an 8th grade boy both being in the bathroom at the same time. That seems open to all sorts of unintended consequences. I, for sure, would not want to use the bathroom when an 8th grade boy was in there, and I am a grown woman. Not that I would be scared but that it just seems wildly inappropriate. I think nothing of using the bathroom when I (a female) use the girls bathroom and there are girls in there.

I'm guessing this is not a private school. And your school locks bathrooms during class changes and lunch? Isn't that the most likely time one may go to the bathroom? Seems that approach expects kids can only use the bathroom when they are in class. Odd.

[Anonymous]

I think it’s fine for elementary school.

I know someone who has a “trans” kindergartener (girl transitioning to boy). This child wants to be a boy all day except for they want to use the girls bathroom bc it’s cleaner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This post reads as yet another attempt to lob a culture war bomb into the room and watch people run in terror as it explodes. I don't know of a single independent school in the area that has multi-stall gender-neutral bathrooms. All of them are single-stall bathrooms. As posters have mentioned, bad stuff happens in whatever type of bathroom you have. Given the nature of the business you do in there, it's one of the few places in a school that offers any semblance of privacy, which means some kids will take advantage of it.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This post reads as yet another attempt to lob a culture war bomb into the room and watch people run in terror as it explodes. I don't know of a single independent school in the area that has multi-stall gender-neutral bathrooms. All of them are single-stall bathrooms. As posters have mentioned, bad stuff happens in whatever type of bathroom you have. Given the nature of the business you do in there, it's one of the few places in a school that offers any semblance of privacy, which means some kids will take advantage of it.

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[Anonymous]

Common sense should tell you that it's a bad idea, but not many people have common sense these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This post reads as yet another attempt to lob a culture war bomb into the room and watch people run in terror as it explodes. I don't know of a single independent school in the area that has multi-stall gender-neutral bathrooms. All of them are single-stall bathrooms. As posters have mentioned, bad stuff happens in whatever type of bathroom you have. Given the nature of the business you do in there, it's one of the few places in a school that offers any semblance of privacy, which means some kids will take advantage of it.

Our k-8 has multi-stall (something like 3 or 4) gender neutral bathrooms. Another poster mentioned theirs did too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This post reads as yet another attempt to lob a culture war bomb into the room and watch people run in terror as it explodes. I don't know of a single independent school in the area that has multi-stall gender-neutral bathrooms. All of them are single-stall bathrooms. As posters have mentioned, bad stuff happens in whatever type of bathroom you have. Given the nature of the business you do in there, it's one of the few places in a school that offers any semblance of privacy, which means some kids will take advantage of it.

Our k-8 has multi-stall (something like 3 or 4) gender neutral bathrooms. Another poster mentioned theirs did too.

I mentioned ours but only one student goes in at a time, hence the “occupied” sign on the door. It’s a total non-issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This post reads as yet another attempt to lob a culture war bomb into the room and watch people run in terror as it explodes. I don't know of a single independent school in the area that has multi-stall gender-neutral bathrooms. All of them are single-stall bathrooms. As posters have mentioned, bad stuff happens in whatever type of bathroom you have. Given the nature of the business you do in there, it's one of the few places in a school that offers any semblance of privacy, which means some kids will take advantage of it.

Our k-8 has multi-stall (something like 3 or 4) gender neutral bathrooms. Another poster mentioned theirs did too.

I mentioned ours but only one student goes in at a time, hence the “occupied” sign on the door. It’s a total non-issue.

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Sounds good. Hopefully nobody abuses the "occupied" sign to keep others out -- i.e. if two kids went in at the same time to hook up etc.

I see the pros and cons of both sides of the argument for genderless facility, but if any abuse ever happens as a result of this, it will be a grave mistake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. The things that go on in bathrooms at schools are disturbing. All bathrooms should be singular. That way, gender does not matter but it is also safe and private.

This. It was disturbing what was going on in school bathrooms when I was a kid in the 80s. I am amazed that schools have not gone to individual bathrooms.