Is the solution for parents to move to small towns?

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Anne Arundel county and you all can stay out as far as I’m concerned. Go ruin Utah or something.

Which town?

Davidsonville but you can stay out of all of all of them.

I am a fellow aa county resident (Crofton). Our schools are administered at the county level not city level. Similar testing and trade offs for a large diverse population have to be made. Our schoolboard is less extreme but we have bussing, sub, and union issues too thanks to covid. I don’t know why you think we are that different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maryland is a whole state of whiners. I am from Texas and nobody ever made all this ruckus there. People here whine about nothing too. Teachers make a max of 48k in Texas, have no rights, cover recess, lunch and dropoff/pickup and it is a right to fire state so you can be let go off for no reason. Send these whiny teachers down to Texas and we will fix 'em.

... it's like you think those are virtues or something?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Live in Frederick. You will not solve this issue by moving. Same problems, less resources to deal with them. The issue is the pandemic- not politics, not the location, not the schools. If you want your kids back in school, end the pandemic.

The pandemic persists now because people can’t let it go even with vaccines therapies and the evolution of the virus to a much milder strain.

Moralizing and virtue signaling. Just change your behavior and the pandemic will end. Hahaha.

[Anonymous]

As a Democrat, not only would I consider moving to keep my kids in school and keep my job from being threatened by being unable to focus and perform, but I'm also enraged at the betrayal by the party. Just look at the dialogue on this forum. The party that is supposed to be concerned with social issues vilifies mothers struggling to balance work and remote learning as "shrieking" for free child care and not taking personal responsibility before deciding to have children. Sexist. They would rather signal that they take the virus more seriously the Republicans with extremist school closure policies than be concerned about working families, learning loss, child development, and low income families. They put the pajama/zoom class that can whether closed schools and unemployment and public health zero covid bureacrats before everyone else. It's disgusting. I've pretty much become an independent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in MoCo and I do think the large size (both in terms of student population and in terms of geography) makes it a LOT harder to work through a situation such as the pandemic. I grew up in New England, where schools have mostly stayed open through the pandemic primarily because the schools are run on a town-by-town basis. It's a lot simpler when you're not trying to come up with a one-size-fits-all solution for 165k kids, hundreds of schools and a massively dispersed and complex transportation system. I doubt that will ever happen here since the county government system is how MD and VA are organized overall, but it would enable a lot more flexibility and nuance.

Due to a number of factors, from remote work, to climate change, to education issues, and rural New England is going to be a very popular “exit” for lots of center left people in large urban areas imo.

Just like red people are leaving California for Idaho.

Many of the Californians who decamped for Idaho, Montana and Wyoming are having a rude awakening according to may friends who are locals to those places. Most of the schools are awful, they are not used to the lack of resources and services, and the politics are far too conservative than they realized. The grass is not always greener. Winter is long. Locals aren't fond of the outsiders pricing them out of all desirable housing and there is far less to do in a place like Kalispell, MT than the Bay Area.

New England is a much better option than the west for folks who are trying to escape this region. The politics are far more palatable and - there is water, no fire season, and the winters are a tad less miserable. There are only 2.5-3 months of truly bitter cold in most of New England, compared to almost 5 months of misery in Montana or Wyoming.

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Anonymous wrote:God forbid. The first thing people do when they move to a new town for socio-economic reasons is start voting for the same sort of politician that implemented all the things they hated about their old town.

This.

Small town America is solid red and we like it that way.

Blue voters NOT WELCOME.

You progressives stay in the dysfunctional urban/suburban cesspools you created with your vote.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland is a whole state of whiners. I am from Texas and nobody ever made all this ruckus there. People here whine about nothing too. Teachers make a max of 48k in Texas, have no rights, cover recess, lunch and dropoff/pickup and it is a right to fire state so you can be let go off for no reason. Send these whiny teachers down to Texas and we will fix 'em.

... it's like you think those are virtues or something?

I would never consider a relocation to Texas for many reasons, like:

-racists who will stop at nothing to continue harming Black people. Like the first black principal in Colleyville, an UMC suburb, who was fired in 2021 because in 2020 he sent a somewhat innocuous letter post George Floyd, but really the problem is that he is a black man with a white wife and the people of Colleyville needed to put him in his place. Do your own googling, all true. https://www.texastribune.org/2021/11/10/colleyville-principal-critical-race-theory/

-the power grid drama

-women's health

-crazy people with guns everywhere (like the toddler with crap parents who had a loaded gun between the car seats (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-toddler-gets-gun-car-shoots-mother-sibling-rcna11159 ). People love to point to things like that as unusual, but every time I've been to Texas, I have seen more guns than anywhere else I've been in the US.

Sure, Austin is a really fun place to visit. That is it. Never, will I ever live there.

[Anonymous]

The left really has a lot of stereotypes of red states. I say this coming from the left. Look at an electoral map. There are plenty of blue areas in the major metro areas and suburbs of red states. Those areas tend to be more center left than on the coasts. Also, many consistently red states in elections see percentages voting for the blue candidate in the 30s-40s. Not everyone running around in these states is some MGT or the like.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland is a whole state of whiners. I am from Texas and nobody ever made all this ruckus there. People here whine about nothing too. Teachers make a max of 48k in Texas, have no rights, cover recess, lunch and dropoff/pickup and it is a right to fire state so you can be let go off for no reason. Send these whiny teachers down to Texas and we will fix 'em.

... it's like you think those are virtues or something?

Why would any teacher put up with that terrible pay and bad conditions is beyond me. Hey, Texas teachers! Move to the better paying districts near Chicago. We are desperate for teachers, your max pay will be between 90K-140K depending where you teach and your degree, you won't cover recess or lunch and you'll be in a union.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Anne Arundel county and you all can stay out as far as I’m concerned. Go ruin Utah or something.

Which town?

Davidsonville but you can stay out of all of all of them.

No need to be hostile. I’ll have you know that I grew up in AA county. I no longer live in the People’s Republic of Maryland, though I go there to see family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Live in Frederick. You will not solve this issue by moving. Same problems, less resources to deal with them. The issue is the pandemic- not politics, not the location, not the schools. If you want your kids back in school, end the pandemic.

The pandemic persists now because people can’t let it go even with vaccines therapies and the evolution of the virus to a much milder strain.

Moralizing and virtue signaling. Just change your behavior and the pandemic will end. Hahaha.

Exhibit A. Some people want to live like it’s March 2020 forever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The left really has a lot of stereotypes of red states. I say this coming from the left. Look at an electoral map. There are plenty of blue areas in the major metro areas and suburbs of red states. Those areas tend to be more center left than on the coasts. Also, many consistently red states in elections see percentages voting for the blue candidate in the 30s-40s. Not everyone running around in these states is some MGT or the like.

Nonsense. The left just hates stereotypes and generalizations— unless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The left really has a lot of stereotypes of red states. I say this coming from the left. Look at an electoral map. There are plenty of blue areas in the major metro areas and suburbs of red states. Those areas tend to be more center left than on the coasts. Also, many consistently red states in elections see percentages voting for the blue candidate in the 30s-40s. Not everyone running around in these states is some MGT or the like.

Nonsense. The left just hates stereotypes and generalizations— unless.

If we are honest, we love stereotypes more than the right wingers.

But it is OK because we are smarter than the dolts living in flyover country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maryland is a whole state of whiners. I am from Texas and nobody ever made all this ruckus there. People here whine about nothing too. Teachers make a max of 48k in Texas, have no rights, cover recess, lunch and dropoff/pickup and it is a right to fire state so you can be let go off for no reason. Send these whiny teachers down to Texas and we will fix 'em.

... it's like you think those are virtues or something?

Why would any teacher put up with that terrible pay and bad conditions is beyond me. Hey, Texas teachers! Move to the better paying districts near Chicago. We are desperate for teachers, your max pay will be between 90K-140K depending where you teach and your degree, you won't cover recess or lunch and you'll be in a union.

You’re desperate for teachers because everyone is fleeing your failed state.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a small Southern town. Today, my HS is 75% FARMs. My HS offered 2 AP classes: Lit and Calc AB. My year, I was the only student to pass either one. By senior year, I was driving to the community college for classes because my HS was out— 45 minutes each way during the school day.

More kids enlisted than went to a 4 year college, and no one in my graduating class left the state for college. The level of instruction was very, very poor.

DH had the same experience at a different HS in a different small town.

Why in the world would we want our kids in one if these environments.

Omg, are you me? I’m from Florida for what it’s worth. Though my CC was closer (but we did have kids driving from further schools)

I think CC is great for students. Sounds like a great solution if schools can't offer particular languages or AP courses. I went to one in high school and loved it.

I don’t think you appreciate the student body of adults in community college in small towns who will be your child’s classmates. Less NOVA and more an edgier version of Community with more crime and drugs.