How is MCPS determining red, yellow, green?

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, could someone help me.... I see the dashboard but all of the schools are listed in black and I don't see where people are getting the red/yellow/green.
Thanks!

The dashboard hasn't been updated since 12/21. (source - the dashboard)
They collected data and used date for the past 4 days (source - reported upthread based on press conference)
There will be updates to dashboard reporting soon (source - MCPS employee)

Agree with a PP upthread that they are waiting to update until after the press conference so there is context

The positives must have been reported in the past 4 days? Are we really to believe they are seeing that many + cases in 4 days? If so my guess would be from staff calling in sick.

We reported our kids’ positives yesterday when we got the test results.

With everything else open, the red schools will stay red and the green ones will turn red very soon. Everyone will be in virtual. Mcps has failed us again. Vaccinated students and staff cannot return to the building… thats just ludicrous!


Why? Honestly why? Your kid didn’t catch it at school and is presumably not returning this week. So why would you add another log to the fire supporting virtual?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are we the only county implementing this system? Either proceed with school or have the entire county go virtual for a determined amount of time. Now we're stuck in this endless cycle of will we or won't we go virtual. The decisionmaking in this county astounds me at every turn.

I know, right? MCPS taking a leadership position? What's Dr McKnight thinking?!

How is this leadership?!? No other county in the COUNTRY is taking a color-coded approach based on what is likely unreliable, self-reported data. What we should be doing is focusing our efforts on test to return (not test AFTER we return); addressing staffing shortages; and figuring out how to keep our schools open for what is essentially a mild virus.

With everything else open, the red schools will stay red and the green ones will turn red very soon. Everyone will be in virtual. Mcps has failed us again. Vaccinated students and staff cannot return to the building… thats just ludicrous!

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Anonymous wrote:From the press conference, they are looking at reported positives from the last 4 days among total school population.
Green <3%
Yellow 3-5%
Red >5%

List to be updated by 7pm each day.

(And of course they can't post that before the press conference - people would flip out with no explanation to go with it. They'll still flip out, but at least there is context now.)

Just how are they doing this? For instance my Title One school has many nonEnglish speaking parents. Are they getting all the info in how to report, testing, etc? We had many +s prior to break. Why so many upcountry schools?

Probably because they're smaller and possibly because they're smaller they were able to test everyone.

Ita re non-English speakers. How are they disseminating this information to them?

MCPS routinely manages to communicate with non-English speakers.

NP.

Not well.

It's a matter of both translation and cultural literacy.

I'm actually wondering if this isn't why our school had impossibly low numbers as of 1/1. Just way out of whack with all surrounding schools. Less than 1%.

About 1/3 of our school comes from an immigrant group that primarily speaks a non-European language. Getting really basic translation services has always been way harder than it should be. Let alone communicating this kind of complicated message which asks for sensitive personal info and so on.

Most of the parents speak some to fluent English, but no doubt it's still a significant barrier.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are we the only county implementing this system? Either proceed with school or have the entire county go virtual for a determined amount of time. Now we're stuck in this endless cycle of will we or won't we go virtual. The decisionmaking in this county astounds me at every turn.

I know, right? MCPS taking a leadership position? What's Dr McKnight thinking?!

How is this leadership?!? No other county in the COUNTRY is taking a color-coded approach based on what is likely unreliable, self-reported data. What we should be doing is focusing our efforts on test to return (not test AFTER we return); addressing staffing shortages; and figuring out how to keep our schools open for what is essentially a mild virus.

With everything else open, the red schools will stay red and the green ones will turn red very soon. Everyone will be in virtual. Mcps has failed us again. Vaccinated students and staff cannot return to the building… thats just ludicrous!

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are we the only county implementing this system? Either proceed with school or have the entire county go virtual for a determined amount of time. Now we're stuck in this endless cycle of will we or won't we go virtual. The decisionmaking in this county astounds me at every turn.

I know, right? MCPS taking a leadership position? What's Dr McKnight thinking?!

How is this leadership?!? No other county in the COUNTRY is taking a color-coded approach based on what is likely unreliable, self-reported data. What we should be doing is focusing our efforts on test to return (not test AFTER we return); addressing staffing shortages; and figuring out how to keep our schools open for what is essentially a mild virus.

With everything else open, the red schools will stay red and the green ones will turn red very soon. Everyone will be in virtual. Mcps has failed us again. Vaccinated students and staff cannot return to the building… thats just ludicrous!

Exactly.

The governor just stated today they will not do all virtual.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are we the only county implementing this system? Either proceed with school or have the entire county go virtual for a determined amount of time. Now we're stuck in this endless cycle of will we or won't we go virtual. The decisionmaking in this county astounds me at every turn.

I know, right? MCPS taking a leadership position? What's Dr McKnight thinking?!

How is this leadership?!? No other county in the COUNTRY is taking a color-coded approach based on what is likely unreliable, self-reported data. What we should be doing is focusing our efforts on test to return (not test AFTER we return); addressing staffing shortages; and figuring out how to keep our schools open for what is essentially a mild virus.

False. But you don't have access to the Internet to know what other counties in Maryland are doing. Sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Note that hitting that 5% "red" threshold doesn't automatically mean closure, it just means that virtual will be considered for that school.

"Red" just means they've hit 5% total, which triggers the health department to begin discussions with the school system. MCPS and the county health department will work together decide whether the cases are widespread enough to send the whole school virtual, or if they can contain it by quarantining a class or shutting down an athletic team, for example.

Considering that all red schools are now virtual, I'm thinking it's more of an automatic closure than they're admitting.

I think that this initial 5% closing is triggered more by staff absences than by student absences. Staff self reporting is likely to be more accurate (since they have to say they can't come to work). There are likely more cases than were reported among students right now, but it doesn't matter because they haven't been at school to transmit Covid. Once we are back in person, monitoring transmission at school becomes more important.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are we the only county implementing this system? Either proceed with school or have the entire county go virtual for a determined amount of time. Now we're stuck in this endless cycle of will we or won't we go virtual. The decisionmaking in this county astounds me at every turn.

I know, right? MCPS taking a leadership position? What's Dr McKnight thinking?!

How is this leadership?!? No other county in the COUNTRY is taking a color-coded approach based on what is likely unreliable, self-reported data. What we should be doing is focusing our efforts on test to return (not test AFTER we return); addressing staffing shortages; and figuring out how to keep our schools open for what is essentially a mild virus.

With everything else open, the red schools will stay red and the green ones will turn red very soon. Everyone will be in virtual. Mcps has failed us again. Vaccinated students and staff cannot return to the building… thats just ludicrous!

Exactly.

The governor just stated today they will not do all virtual.

The color coded system is a way to close schools while at the same time saying they are keeping them open. They can say they didn’t wholesale close schools rather they were just following the capricious color coded system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are we the only county implementing this system? Either proceed with school or have the entire county go virtual for a determined amount of time. Now we're stuck in this endless cycle of will we or won't we go virtual. The decisionmaking in this county astounds me at every turn.

I know, right? MCPS taking a leadership position? What's Dr McKnight thinking?!

How is this leadership?!? No other county in the COUNTRY is taking a color-coded approach based on what is likely unreliable, self-reported data. What we should be doing is focusing our efforts on test to return (not test AFTER we return); addressing staffing shortages; and figuring out how to keep our schools open for what is essentially a mild virus.

With everything else open, the red schools will stay red and the green ones will turn red very soon. Everyone will be in virtual. Mcps has failed us again. Vaccinated students and staff cannot return to the building… thats just ludicrous!

Exactly.

The governor just stated today they will not do all virtual.

The color coded system is a way to close schools while at the same time saying they are keeping them open. They can say they didn’t wholesale close schools rather they were just following the capricious color coded system.

Nailed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are we the only county implementing this system? Either proceed with school or have the entire county go virtual for a determined amount of time. Now we're stuck in this endless cycle of will we or won't we go virtual. The decisionmaking in this county astounds me at every turn.

I know, right? MCPS taking a leadership position? What's Dr McKnight thinking?!

How is this leadership?!? No other county in the COUNTRY is taking a color-coded approach based on what is likely unreliable, self-reported data. What we should be doing is focusing our efforts on test to return (not test AFTER we return); addressing staffing shortages; and figuring out how to keep our schools open for what is essentially a mild virus.

False. But you don't have access to the Internet to know what other counties in Maryland are doing. Sad.

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You don't have to look far to find another county (Baltimore County) doing a school-by-school (and apparently by grade) assessment for switching to virtual.
https://www.bcps.org/covid19
They have 21 schools virtual this week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, could someone help me.... I see the dashboard but all of the schools are listed in black and I don't see where people are getting the red/yellow/green.
Thanks!

The dashboard hasn't been updated since 12/21. (source - the dashboard)
They collected data and used date for the past 4 days (source - reported upthread based on press conference)
There will be updates to dashboard reporting soon (source - MCPS employee)

Agree with a PP upthread that they are waiting to update until after the press conference so there is context

The positives must have been reported in the past 4 days? Are we really to believe they are seeing that many + cases in 4 days? If so my guess would be from staff calling in sick.

We reported our kids’ positives yesterday when we got the test results.

Why? Honestly why? Your kid didn’t catch it at school and is presumably not returning this week. So why would you add another log to the fire supporting virtual?

Because it's her civic duty, you pathetic red-state, grifting, sociopathic piece of trash.

Lol. Former Californian. Current Marylander. And I work for the biden admin. The color coded system is totally made up BS.

[Anonymous]

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The governor just stated today they will not do all virtual.

The color coded system is a way to close schools while at the same time saying they are keeping them open. They can say they didn’t wholesale close schools rather they were just following the capricious color coded system.

Nailed it.

The color coding doesn't change MCPS's initial plan for schools to close when they hit 5% positivity. It just makes it easier to see how close your school is to meeting that metric. You can disagree with the 5% cutoff, but the color coding has nothing to do with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Note that hitting that 5% "red" threshold doesn't automatically mean closure, it just means that virtual will be considered for that school.

"Red" just means they've hit 5% total, which triggers the health department to begin discussions with the school system. MCPS and the county health department will work together decide whether the cases are widespread enough to send the whole school virtual, or if they can contain it by quarantining a class or shutting down an athletic team, for example.

Considering that all red schools are now virtual, I'm thinking it's more of an automatic closure than they're admitting.

I think that this initial 5% closing is triggered more by staff absences than by student absences. Staff self reporting is likely to be more accurate (since they have to say they can't come to work). There are likely more cases than were reported among students right now, but it doesn't matter because they haven't been at school to transmit Covid. Once we are back in person, monitoring transmission at school becomes more important.

Do you think staff are fake calling in sick or saying they have covid or are quarantining when they aren’t? Honest question. System seems ripe for dishonesty on both sides and the “data” shouldn’t be relied upon to close a school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are we the only county implementing this system? Either proceed with school or have the entire county go virtual for a determined amount of time. Now we're stuck in this endless cycle of will we or won't we go virtual. The decisionmaking in this county astounds me at every turn.

I know, right? MCPS taking a leadership position? What's Dr McKnight thinking?!

How is this leadership?!? No other county in the COUNTRY is taking a color-coded approach based on what is likely unreliable, self-reported data. What we should be doing is focusing our efforts on test to return (not test AFTER we return); addressing staffing shortages; and figuring out how to keep our schools open for what is essentially a mild virus.

With everything else open, the red schools will stay red and the green ones will turn red very soon. Everyone will be in virtual. Mcps has failed us again. Vaccinated students and staff cannot return to the building… thats just ludicrous!

Exactly.

The governor just stated today they will not do all virtual.

The color coded system is a way to close schools while at the same time saying they are keeping them open. They can say they didn’t wholesale close schools rather they were just following the capricious color coded system.

Nailed it.

And I'm not even a $150/hour PR consultant and I figured this out.

[Anonymous]

Hope the pro-virtual-no-inperson-school-for-anyone crowd is rejoicing..