DC redistricting specifically for Ward 6

[Anonymous]

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What would happen is that there would be no council member that cares about what happens in that area. Basic things like snowplows and pothole repair would happen less. School districting and parking concerns would be ignored. That area would be a sacrificial lamb to whatever city wide balance of power negotiations happen on big issues. It's not about money. It's about differing interests and representation. The area would be too small to have any influence on its Council race and would thus have its neighborhood interests ignored just like happens to Shaw and Hawthorne now.

Shaw isn't neglected and I've actually been totally fine despite being redistricted. Snowplows, potholes, etc -- those things are happening centrally. Are you saying that -- Ward 8 is poor, so they don't get resources like snowplows, schools, and pothole repairs? Are you saying that you only get services based on how wealthy your ward is?

Come on - this is just plain silly fearmongering.

I mean, kind of. If a city agency isn't doing a good job in a certain ward, whether it gets better depends on the political/media savvy of the councilmember.

If there's a question about where to allocate funds through the budget (like which schools to renovate first) it gets decided based on the political savvy of the councilmember and what he or she can trade off via the committee he controls (and the council chair gives out committee seats, and doesn't give important committees to people he thinks are too dumb and/or disagreeable to his agenda for him to get what he wants).

So being represented by someone who isn't liked or respected by the other councilmembers (and some are respected but not liked, or vice versa) can be challenging. It's also important for the councilmember to be able to effectively manage his or her staff and make sure they are doing good constituent service work. Some councilmembers are better than others at attracting, hiring, and supervising people who get the work done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

What would happen is that there would be no council member that cares about what happens in that area. Basic things like snowplows and pothole repair would happen less. School districting and parking concerns would be ignored. That area would be a sacrificial lamb to whatever city wide balance of power negotiations happen on big issues. It's not about money. It's about differing interests and representation. The area would be too small to have any influence on its Council race and would thus have its neighborhood interests ignored just like happens to Shaw and Hawthorne now.

Shaw isn't neglected and I've actually been totally fine despite being redistricted. Snowplows, potholes, etc -- those things are happening centrally. Are you saying that -- Ward 8 is poor, so they don't get resources like snowplows, schools, and pothole repairs? Are you saying that you only get services based on how wealthy your ward is?

Come on - this is just plain silly fearmongering.

Really? How's that middle school coming along?

It has nothing to do with wealth, nice strawman, it has to do with representation. Someone in power caring about your micro interests because they need your vote. It's the exact same reason why we need statehood just on a smaller scale. It's not fearmongering, it's just what is inevitably going to happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do we really think the big developers of the Wharf + owners of Nats Stadium and Audi Field will be represented by Trayon White in the Council? The Lerner family taking meetings with that fool?!?

No way in hell. They will remain Ward 6.

Hill East is gone, tho. They better get accustomed to calling Council Member White's office.

How far into hill East? I own a house there. What blocks are they going to take?

All the way to lincoln park?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

What would happen is that there would be no council member that cares about what happens in that area. Basic things like snowplows and pothole repair would happen less. School districting and parking concerns would be ignored. That area would be a sacrificial lamb to whatever city wide balance of power negotiations happen on big issues. It's not about money. It's about differing interests and representation. The area would be too small to have any influence on its Council race and would thus have its neighborhood interests ignored just like happens to Shaw and Hawthorne now.

Shaw isn't neglected and I've actually been totally fine despite being redistricted. Snowplows, potholes, etc -- those things are happening centrally. Are you saying that -- Ward 8 is poor, so they don't get resources like snowplows, schools, and pothole repairs? Are you saying that you only get services based on how wealthy your ward is?

Come on - this is just plain silly fearmongering.

Shaw always had a solid Council Member tho. Were you ever represented by the likes of Trayon White?

Shaw is also a vote-rich area with lots development plans, so any Council Member should really be attentive of the area's needs. There is plenty of incentive for a Council Member to pay attention to Shaw. There is zero incentive for Trayon White to pay attention to Hill East - it's not a potential base of support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

What would happen is that there would be no council member that cares about what happens in that area. Basic things like snowplows and pothole repair would happen less. School districting and parking concerns would be ignored. That area would be a sacrificial lamb to whatever city wide balance of power negotiations happen on big issues. It's not about money. It's about differing interests and representation. The area would be too small to have any influence on its Council race and would thus have its neighborhood interests ignored just like happens to Shaw and Hawthorne now.

Shaw isn't neglected and I've actually been totally fine despite being redistricted. Snowplows, potholes, etc -- those things are happening centrally. Are you saying that -- Ward 8 is poor, so they don't get resources like snowplows, schools, and pothole repairs? Are you saying that you only get services based on how wealthy your ward is?

Come on - this is just plain silly fearmongering.

You seriously think the councilmember who believes Jews control the weather is surrounded by a top flight staff ready and on call to respond to constituent issues with prudence and haste? Me either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do we really think the big developers of the Wharf + owners of Nats Stadium and Audi Field will be represented by Trayon White in the Council? The Lerner family taking meetings with that fool?!?

No way in hell. They will remain Ward 6.

Hill East is gone, tho. They better get accustomed to calling Council Member White's office.

How far into hill East? I own a house there. What blocks are they going to take?

All the way to lincoln park?!

Fk that sht. Take one of the poorer places please. I like being able to email Charles Allen, even though he doesn’t do sht on crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do we really think the big developers of the Wharf + owners of Nats Stadium and Audi Field will be represented by Trayon White in the Council? The Lerner family taking meetings with that fool?!?

No way in hell. They will remain Ward 6.

Hill East is gone, tho. They better get accustomed to calling Council Member White's office.

PP here and I would LOVE to see the Wharf and Stadium area dealing with Trayon White! And then I would like it even more when that big money comes to get him off of the Council.

Now I could get behind this.

Frankly, I think that this is what will happen before long no matter how the redistricting goes. Trayon White's power base was already pretty tenuous, his electoral success relies on low voter turnout, and his constituency is shrinking as the city gentrifies. Once they know that it's reasonably likely to succeed, there will be plenty of wealthy investors in St. E's or Navy Yard who will throw money at a challenger.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do we really think the big developers of the Wharf + owners of Nats Stadium and Audi Field will be represented by Trayon White in the Council? The Lerner family taking meetings with that fool?!?

No way in hell. They will remain Ward 6.

Hill East is gone, tho. They better get accustomed to calling Council Member White's office.

How far into hill East? I own a house there. What blocks are they going to take?

All the way to lincoln park?!

Fk that sht. Take one of the poorer places please. I like being able to email Charles Allen, even though he doesn’t do sht on crime.

Assuming that happens I'd also be worried about school zone like Maury getting gerrymandered far into Ward 7...

[Anonymous]

I don’t feel that Allen is looking out for the interests of Ward 6 rn (see, juvenile crime and gun violence) so it would not feel any different under Trayon White.

[Anonymous]

They've made it possible for everyone to play around with redistricting ideas at https://dcredistricting.esriemcs.com/redistricting/

[Anonymous]

FYI some other links from an older redistricting thread:

Website for the redistricting subcommittee: https://www.elissasilverman.com/redistricting

DCist article laying out potential boundary changes based on neighborhood growth over the past decade: https://dcist.com/story/21/08/12/census-shows-d-c-s-fastest-growth-in-noma-navy-yard-and-southwest/

[Anonymous]

After my first stab at playing around with the map. Ward 8 could easily expand to Penn Ave to get its numbers. But this would then likely push Cap Hill East and the RFK area into Ward 7.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:After my first stab at playing around with the map. Ward 8 could easily expand to Penn Ave to get its numbers. But this would then likely push Cap Hill East and the RFK area into Ward 7.

Did you give Shaw to Ward 2? That will push down Ward 6 numbers quite a bit and can mute some of the expansion across the Anacostia River.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:After my first stab at playing around with the map. Ward 8 could easily expand to Penn Ave to get its numbers. But this would then push Cap Hill East and the RFK area into Ward 7.

Did you give Shaw to Ward 2? That will push down Ward 6 numbers quite a bit and can mute some of the expansion across the Anacostia River.

The problem is adding to Ward 7. Everything flows from the choices they will make there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, your post is kind of gross. I think you don’t want to be represented by an AA council member. I’m in Ward 6, also wealthy (not just UMC) and could not care less if I am redistricted (I’m in Eastern Market).

Oh, I’m racist? I’m just concerned “Jews control the weather” white may detrimentally impact my ward. I’m not racist you idiot.

To follow up what I meant is Trayvon white said grossly anti-Semitic and ignorant comments about Jews. I’d rather not be represented by that person.

You can vote him out if you are redistricted. Get over yourself.

Except they’ve already explicitly stated they are redistricting with an eye to not diluting the power of minority voters. They will never loop in enough parts of UMC Capitol Hill for us to vote out his anti-vax, anti-Semite, useless @$$.

This is true. It is always more important for the ward to "be seen to be represented on the surface" than to be represented with competence. This is the corrupt power politics of DC are why Bowser is the mayor instead of the manifestly more competent Catania.