Travis and Taylor

[Anonymous]

I’m a 54 year old guy and can’t name more than two Taylor Swift songs but I’ve never seen a celebrity do as much with their platform as Taylor Swift.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a 54 year old guy and can’t name more than two Taylor Swift songs but I’ve never seen a celebrity do as much with their platform as Taylor Swift.

On a similar note, I am a 68 -year old woman, and I would recognize a lot of her songs if I heard them playing, but can name very few. I think what TS has done/ is doing ...is amazing. She ought to be teaching at Harvard Business School if she is not already. She is a brand genius.

[Anonymous]

If anyone is interested, there’s a new documentary by TMZ on Taylor and Travis airing on FOX at 9 p.m. ET tonight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If anyone is interested, there’s a new documentary by TMZ on Taylor and Travis airing on FOX at 9 p.m. ET tonight.

Good lord. This is a circus

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Anonymous wrote:If anyone is interested, there’s a new documentary by TMZ on Taylor and Travis airing on FOX at 9 p.m. ET tonight.

Good. This is just so incredibly easy to avoid by simply not tuning in to that exact channel at that exact time.

Fixed it for you.

[Anonymous]

Friday is Taylor Swift day at my kid’s school, even Jesus doesn’t get a day

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way she can go anywhere without being photographed. She doesn’t need to tip anyone off. The entirety of the Australian press has been following her every move, and his. I understand other celebrities do this, but that’s to get famous or increase fame or rehab their image, etc. She needs none of that.

She might not need it but she does it. I mean she did it a lot when she was still building up her career too. But she still does it, and more frequently than other celebs. That's why you so often see stories about who she went to dinner with, where, plus high quality paparazzi photos that feature her full outfit. These are photo ops her team arranged to project a certain image and keep her in the news cycle. She will even ramp it up to promote an album or tour. This is why many of us sense there is at least a large element of the Kelce relationship that is PR based. It was just too perfect-- an opportunity to be on national TV on a weekly basis between the end of her US tour and the start of her internation tour, leading very nearly up to the Grammy's and the very carefully timed announcement of the new album?

Also, yes she can avoid being photographed. She gets followed but it's not Princess Diana level hounding. She's also got a full security team, a fleet of vehicles, and enough money to get her into lots of rich person places where she could enjoy privacy, especially for a date. Restaurants that will shut down or have private dining rooms, resorts and hotels that cater to private celebrities, etc. How do you think people like Jeff Bezos, Tom and Gisele, the Clinton's, the BRF, Lady Gaga, etc. function in the world? They use money and connections to access experiences without anyone looking. And most of those people have less money than Taylor.

If we see Taylor doing something that seems intimate and personal, it's because she wants us to see it. She holds all the cards here.

In Kansas City, Taylor and friends were dining in a private room with its own bathroom. Taylor chose to walk across the restaurant and past where the regular people were sitting to visit a different bathroom.

She knows what she’s doing and she wants attention.

Then she can say she doesn’t know how this happens and pretend to be mystified as to why there is “interest.”

When she wants to be out of the press, she’s out of the press.

I'm curious where you are getting this story? It's ultra-specific.

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“At one point during the dinner, Swift requested to use the restroom, and instead of opting to use the one designated for the private room, she asked to go to the one in the main dining room, which alerted other customers that the “Look What You Made Me Do” singer was in their presence.

The restaurant just got really quiet and I think people were more so just really shocked that she was there,” Megan recalls. “The restaurant was pretty low-key that night.”

Swift was lead to the bathroom by Colby, Rye’s James Beard Foundation award-winning chef, and her security team, so fans weren’t able to make their way toward the superstar.”

[Anonymous]

I think it would be fun as hell to do the stuff that Taylor does for others. She has always engaged her fans on-one-on in ways such as showing up at their homes, going to a bridal shower, etc.

She definitely appreciates her fans more than most celebs and she shows it.

[Anonymous]

I think the Kelce brothers really appreciate their fans too!

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way she can go anywhere without being photographed. She doesn’t need to tip anyone off. The entirety of the Australian press has been following her every move, and his. I understand other celebrities do this, but that’s to get famous or increase fame or rehab their image, etc. She needs none of that.

She might not need it but she does it. I mean she did it a lot when she was still building up her career too. But she still does it, and more frequently than other celebs. That's why you so often see stories about who she went to dinner with, where, plus high quality paparazzi photos that feature her full outfit. These are photo ops her team arranged to project a certain image and keep her in the news cycle. She will even ramp it up to promote an album or tour. This is why many of us sense there is at least a large element of the Kelce relationship that is PR based. It was just too perfect-- an opportunity to be on national TV on a weekly basis between the end of her US tour and the start of her internation tour, leading very nearly up to the Grammy's and the very carefully timed announcement of the new album?

Also, yes she can avoid being photographed. She gets followed but it's not Princess Diana level hounding. She's also got a full security team, a fleet of vehicles, and enough money to get her into lots of rich person places where she could enjoy privacy, especially for a date. Restaurants that will shut down or have private dining rooms, resorts and hotels that cater to private celebrities, etc. How do you think people like Jeff Bezos, Tom and Gisele, the Clinton's, the BRF, Lady Gaga, etc. function in the world? They use money and connections to access experiences without anyone looking. And most of those people have less money than Taylor.

If we see Taylor doing something that seems intimate and personal, it's because she wants us to see it. She holds all the cards here.

In Kansas City, Taylor and friends were dining in a private room with its own bathroom. Taylor chose to walk across the restaurant and past where the regular people were sitting to visit a different bathroom.

She knows what she’s doing and she wants attention.

Then she can say she doesn’t know how this happens and pretend to be mystified as to why there is “interest.”

When she wants to be out of the press, she’s out of the press.

I'm curious where you are getting this story? It's ultra-specific.

Page Six:

“At one point during the dinner, Swift requested to use the restroom, and instead of opting to use the one designated for the private room, she asked to go to the one in the main dining room, which alerted other customers that the “Look What You Made Me Do” singer was in their presence.

The restaurant just got really quiet and I think people were more so just really shocked that she was there,” Megan recalls. “The restaurant was pretty low-key that night.”

Swift was lead to the bathroom by Colby, Rye’s James Beard Foundation award-winning chef, and her security team, so fans weren’t able to make their way toward the superstar.”

That is odd. I do think she chooses to be more public than necessary on purpose often.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish the Taylor Swift haters would watch clips of the kids getting the 22 hats on the tour. How can you have such disdain for someone who is bringing that kind of joy to kids? They don’t give a crap about paparazzi or conspiracy theories or any of this nonsense.

Amazing to see, I agree.

I have vastly a different opinion on this.

Your kids’ and that kid’s doctors coaches and teachers give a whole lot more to your kid and that kid than Taylor Swift does.

She is like the tele-evangelist who goes up to a sick believe, touches them on the forehead says “Jesus saves” and you buy more into it literally and figuratively.

What - and I mean this literally- TAF are you talking about?

I get where PP is coming from. It's not that hard for someone like Swift to do something like this for these kids. It's a sweet gesture that no doubt totally makes that kid's year. But it's useful to have some perspective here. She's not curing cancer. She's using her star power to do something nice for a sick kid (and it happens to be very good for her PR at the same time). Making too much of it kind of ignores the fact that a child with leukemia or a similar illness likely has a team of dedicated medical staff and family helping them every day, and the 22 hat thing is just a gesture. A sweet, kind gesture, yes. But it's not as hard or meaningful, ultimately, as actually caring for these kids day in and day out. I think Taylor would agree with that too.

No one, repeat no one, is equating giving away the 22 hat with providing medical care to a child with cancer.
I swear the rabid hate for her is much worse than the swiftie devotion.

The original comment was that the PP didn't understand how someone who saw the '22' hat kids could criticize Swift. The PP's point is that while this gesture is nice, it's NBD for Swift. It requires almost nothing of her. Her team identifies the recipient, Taylor gives them the hat and sings to them. It's nice for the kid, it's good for Taylor's image and likely makes her feel good.

But it's not some proof of inherent goodness. It doesn't inoculate her against any criticism, speculation about her live life, distaste for certain off-stage behaviors, etc. It's objectively different than someone who works on a pediatric cancer ward, where you might say "hey, leave them alone-- they deserve broad leeway in life because of what they do."

Swift is a billionaire pop star. She does a nice thing for a kid at her shows. That is great. You can acknowledge it's great while also criticizing her for a dozen other things.

The point is that she does it at all. Are there other performers who do anything like that, making a kid's night/week/year by having a moment of one-on-one interaction every single night in a sea of 80,000+ people? (There might be, I don't know, would love to see that). And the kids tend to be ones who have not a lot of hope in their lives because they're sick, etc. It IS a big deal for her, or she wouldn't do it.

The point isn't for her not to be criticized at all. The point was that wow, you all just rain hatred down on her without seeing how much joy she brings to people, none of whom give a crap about all of your conspiracies, planes, who she's dating, fake relationships, etc. When you receive joy, it's yours. That was the point. I can't stand [insert singer here so I don't derail this thread] but there is no way in hell I don't see the utter joy she brings to people. How can I "hate" someone (who also uses a private jet on the regular but there's not one thread about that, interestingly) who brings so many people that much joy? And criticize her just for the sport of it, who isn't harming anyone? It's hard to fathom.

I just want to note that a lot of performing artists do stuff like this. It's especially common in country music. It's a nice thing to do, for sure, but it doesn't feel unique to Taylor Swift to me.

[Anonymous]

Wtf

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Anonymous wrote:Wtf

She uses umbrellas a lot to shield herself from the paps.

[Anonymous]

I think he’s closeted. His bachelor best friend is quite zesty as well. Smoke there’s fire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Friday is Taylor Swift day at my kid’s school, even Jesus doesn’t get a day

What is Christmas?