Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

In case you missed it, there has been a huge increase in antisemitic incidents in the U.S.

There's a huge increase in all kinds of -isms in the US - Jews aren't special in the hatred they get.

Jews make up a tiny part of the population but are victims of the most hate crimes of any religious groups. So, sorry, but they are special in the hatred directed against them.

Let me now the numbers for ALL groups, not just religious groups. Again, there's nothing special about antisemitism.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who argue that Jews do not a historical connection to Israel are wrong. They were there before their opponents.

Genetic testing says, uhhh bullshit.

False. Genetic testing confirms ties as do thousands upon thousands of architectural excavations. To deny Jews’ historical presence there is just wrong. I mean heck, there’s even an ancient Jewish Temple in Gaza, for Christ’s sake. Oh yeah, Christ too! A Jewish man. Er, wait, a Palestinian Jew?

There were ancient Canaanites in the area long, long, long before there were Jews, Christians, or Muslims. The land was inhabited for tens of millennia before Judaism was even invented. Why should just one -- of the many different religious groups that have lived there -- have a special claim to this piece of land?

And before that, there were Neanderthals and before that amoebas. Maybe we should just give our homes back to them…

Well, yes this is the game we are playing. We preach about how the white Europeans ‘stole’ American indigenous land, yet we turcom and support and encourage it from another country. European jewish people don’t have direct roots to the middle east.

That wasn’t exactly my point. The fact is, Jews are indigenous to the land. It’s a fact. Now they are back and living in Israel again. Face it. Deal with it. They have tried to live peacefully with Palestinians who have rejected every two state solution offered to them. At some point, Palestinians need to accept that Israel is here to stay and find a way to live peacefully with their neighbors and Vice Versa.

If they show they are peaceful actors instead of barbaric anti semites, I’m quite sure that eventually they can integrate. Wouldn’t that be something? Doubt it’ll ever happen though. It would destroy everything they believe in. Their society would have nothing left.

It’s akin to having a native American tribe force us off their stolen land today. Their stolen land is a much more recent event than the jewish occupation of the ME. Would you be fine with this? You would willingly just leave?

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Anonymous wrote:Those who argue that Jews do not a historical connection to Israel are wrong. They were there before their opponents.

Genetic testing says, uhhh bullshit.

False. Genetic testing confirms ties as do thousands upon thousands of architectural excavations. To deny Jews’ historical presence there is just wrong. I mean heck, there’s even an ancient Jewish Temple in Gaza, for Christ’s sake. Oh yeah, Christ too! A Jewish man. Er, wait, a Palestinian Jew?

Furthermore the Jews were there long before Christianity or Islam was concocted.

Yeah, all true. The problem is that the people calling themselves Jews in 2024 like Netanyahu and Smotrich have about as much ancient Jewish blood in them as I do, which is a lengthy way to say “none”.

There is no such thing as " Jewish Blood" . You talk like a Zealot.

The vast majority of Arabs in Palestine, Lebanon & Syria are the exact same haplotype as Sephardic Jews: E1b1

They are the same " people "

You can’t have it both ways though, if the Palestinians have more middle eastern blood, they have a right to remain exactly where they are. How can one argue to remove them? Yes, the Sephardic jews have a right to be there fine, but the remaining nonSephardic have zero ties there. It is what it is. These are Europeans.

Deep breaths. I think you mean Mizrahi. Study up.

Ok why do half or more European persons have a right to force indigenous people out? We are still allowing this to happen in 2024?

What makes them "indigenous?" Because they colonized the area several hundred years ago, during the Arab conquests of muslim expansion? And what makes Jews somehow not indigenous, given they originated there, and the land used to be known as Judea, and have DNA ties to the area?

Why do you refuse to address the irrefutable fact that the genetic ties of the typical regional Jew to that specific region is far less significant (i.e., comparatively inferior) than the genetic tie of the typical regional Arab to that specific region?

Based on what? Based on comparing the DNA of a modern-day Palestinian to the DNA of a Palestinian Arab from 300 years ago? So what?

No, based on the fact that genetic testing confirms that nearly 100% of Palestinians are 100% genetically tied to the region, and less than 10% of Israelis are 100% tied to the region.

Those numbers are 100% made up. Palestinian DNA shows haplotypes connecting them to Lebanese, Egyptian, Iranian, Armenian, Turk et cetera et cetera et cetera. They aren't uniquely Palestinian and uniquely tied to the area as you claim. Instead, their DNA tells the story of Muslim conquest and then Ottoman rule, migrations of people into the area, intermarriages and so on. If you want to claim that Jews are somehow disqualified because of migrations and intermarriages then Palestinians are no better.

A lot of Gaza was settled by Egyptians in the 19th century. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1949-3606.2012.00172.x

Cool story, bro. Now that you've prayed to St. Google for search engine justification for already entrenched position, are you signing-up for genetic testing of all in the region to sort all of this out? What's that? No? Yeah, that's what we thought ...

"Cool story bro?"

Sorry but a scholarly research article published in a peer-reviewed journal of Middle East studies by far outranks your juvenile OPINIONS. Every. Single. Day.

Did you share a link to the article containing that peer reviewed research?

Yes, it was shared above. But for people who didn't want to click on it for whatever imagined "it's hasbara" reasons... Here's a cite

Frantzman, S.J. and Kark, R. (2013), The Muslim Settlement of Late Ottoman and Mandatory Palestine: Comparison with Jewish Settlement Patterns. Digest of Middle East Studies, 22: 74-93. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1949-3606.2012.00172.x

And a doi https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1949-3606.2012.00172.x

And that's just one of MANY articles that talk about the flow of other Muslim populations into Gaza and other areas of Palestine. Trying to make claims suggesting 100% of Palestinians have very deep and long reaching historical DNA ties or that they are a monolithic bloc of people who have lived there since the beginning of recorded time is either completely uninformed, or is just plain disingenuous and dishonest.

Litigating who should control land based on who lived there millennia ago is an all-around losing proposition. If we go back far enough, we all have ancestors who have lived in every continent (except perhaps Antarctica). We all descend from Mitochondrial Eve, and our links as human beings are more important than where our ancestors' lived in the 200,000 years since we could first be identified as homo sapiens. Canada, the United States, Australia, New Zealand, and many African nations contain significant populations of people of European descent. Many Americans are of African descent. Our understanding of citizenship is a lot more sophisticated and complex than "who lived here in 2000 BCE." Palestinian families have been ethnically cleansed from land their families farmed for generations and were farming less than 80 years ago. Their property has been stolen from them by people whose ancestors have not lived in the southern Levant in many centuries. Clearly, these Palestinians had every right to stay where they were. The world perpetrated a terrible injustice against Palestinians in an attempt to mitigate a terrible injustice against Jews (the Holocaust).

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

In case you missed it, there has been a huge increase in antisemitic incidents in the U.S.

There's a huge increase in all kinds of -isms in the US - Jews aren't special in the hatred they get.

Jews make up a tiny part of the population but are victims of the most hate crimes of any religious groups. So, sorry, but they are special in the hatred directed against them.

Historically? okay. The here and now in the US? I don’t know, all I know is I am worried about mentally ill children/teens/adults having access to firearms and no mental health resources amongst other pressing issues. I have zero connection or ties to the ME and neither do most Americans.

Did you know that it's actually possible to be concerned about more than one thing at a time? And that one can be concerned about Jews even if you aren't one? I'm not Jewish and in fact have some Arab Muslim blood but I have many Jewish friends, a few of whom have directly experienced threatening and harrassing behaviors toward their communities.

We need to prioritize our issues though to make any progress.

Uhh sure. Like how when it's about migrants, we suddenly get arguments like "we have homeless veterans and our own problems to deal with" - uh, gee whiz Sparky, you had ZERO interest in dealing with homeless veterans before you decided to become obsessed with migrants. Wasn't a priority for you then, why should it suddenly become a priority now? Or how an overwhelming percentage of Americans support universal mandatory background checks for gun purchases along with other common sense gun reforms and keeping kids from being shot to death in school, yet that is absolutely zero priority and has to fall far, far below things like making sure that women who medically need abortions can't get them, or making sure there are no trans people in school sports.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

In case you missed it, there has been a huge increase in antisemitic incidents in the U.S.

There's a huge increase in all kinds of -isms in the US - Jews aren't special in the hatred they get.

Jews make up a tiny part of the population but are victims of the most hate crimes of any religious groups. So, sorry, but they are special in the hatred directed against them.

Historically? okay. The here and now in the US? I don’t know, all I know is I am worried about mentally ill children/teens/adults having access to firearms and no mental health resources amongst other pressing issues. I have zero connection or ties to the ME and neither do most Americans.

Did you know that it's actually possible to be concerned about more than one thing at a time? And that one can be concerned about Jews even if you aren't one? I'm not Jewish and in fact have some Arab Muslim blood but I have many Jewish friends, a few of whom have directly experienced threatening and harrassing behaviors toward their communities.

We need to prioritize our issues though to make any progress.

Uhh sure. Like how when it's about migrants, we suddenly get arguments like "we have homeless veterans and our own problems to deal with" - uh, gee whiz Sparky, you had ZERO interest in dealing with homeless veterans before you decided to become obsessed with migrants. Wasn't a priority for you then, why should it suddenly become a priority now? Or how an overwhelming percentage of Americans support universal mandatory background checks for gun purchases along with other common sense gun reforms and keeping kids from being shot to death in school, yet that is absolutely zero priority and has to fall far, far below things like making sure that women who medically need abortions can't get them, or making sure there are no trans people in school sports.

Yeah we’re a mess here in the US so we needn’t meddle in foreign affairs.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

Many Hamas leaders deny the Holocaust happened, as do many other anti-semitic groups. And it's those same people who are trying to frame what's happening in Gaza as being the worst genocide in history. It's a major reach.

Most Americans have no dog in this fight though. We have bigger fish to fry.

of course we do. The spread of autocratic governments endangers us. They tend to be agressive (see Putin and the Hamas attack) and they will come for us.

Israel is a country led by a corrupt, criminal leader who has a stranglehold on an entire nation thanks to the support of a radical right-wing political party. Is this what democracy looks like to the US? This is a banana Republic, not a democracy.

But it is still a democracy. People can still vote him out. It may go the way of its neighbors, but it is not there yet. (kind of the the US right now with Trump)

By that token, Russia is a democracy because Putin can be voted out.

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Anonymous wrote:American students being shot by mentally ill American students should take precedence over any other global issue.

The only thing worse than virtue signaling is fake concern trolling being used to deflect from the main debate topic. We're talking about the Hamas attack on Israel, and Israel's response to it, not gun violence in the US. If you genuinely want to talk about school shootings, there are many threads here on DCUM for that.

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Anonymous wrote:American students being shot by mentally ill American students should take precedence over any other global issue.

The only thing worse than virtue signaling is fake concern trolling being used to deflect from the main debate topic. We're talking about the Hamas attack on Israel, and Israel's response to it, not gun violence in the US. If you genuinely want to talk about school shootings, there are many threads here on DCUM for that.

I am not virtue signaling, maybe you’re virtue signaling and feigning concern for the ME conflict. I am not deflecting, merely pointing out that most Americans don’t hold malicious views or intentions toward the conflict a world away. We have bigger issues. Most of us anyway. And that’s not antisemitism.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

In case you missed it, there has been a huge increase in antisemitic incidents in the U.S.

There's a huge increase in all kinds of -isms in the US - Jews aren't special in the hatred they get.

Jews make up a tiny part of the population but are victims of the most hate crimes of any religious groups. So, sorry, but they are special in the hatred directed against them.

Historically? okay. The here and now in the US? I don’t know, all I know is I am worried about mentally ill children/teens/adults having access to firearms and no mental health resources amongst other pressing issues. I have zero connection or ties to the ME and neither do most Americans.

Did you know that it's actually possible to be concerned about more than one thing at a time? And that one can be concerned about Jews even if you aren't one? I'm not Jewish and in fact have some Arab Muslim blood but I have many Jewish friends, a few of whom have directly experienced threatening and harrassing behaviors toward their communities.

We need to prioritize our issues though to make any progress.

Uhh sure. Like how when it's about migrants, we suddenly get arguments like "we have homeless veterans and our own problems to deal with" - uh, gee whiz Sparky, you had ZERO interest in dealing with homeless veterans before you decided to become obsessed with migrants. Wasn't a priority for you then, why should it suddenly become a priority now? Or how an overwhelming percentage of Americans support universal mandatory background checks for gun purchases along with other common sense gun reforms and keeping kids from being shot to death in school, yet that is absolutely zero priority and has to fall far, far below things like making sure that women who medically need abortions can't get them, or making sure there are no trans people in school sports.

Yeah we’re a mess here in the US so we needn’t meddle in foreign affairs.

Hold up. You seem deeply confused. The migrant situation is a mess because we don't do enough to stop countries like Russia and Iran from destabilizing other countries, like Syria, Ukraine, Africa, Middle East and elsewhere, and we don't do enough to stabilize and help struggling countries in Latin America and elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:American students being shot by mentally ill American students should take precedence over any other global issue.

The only thing worse than virtue signaling is fake concern trolling being used to deflect from the main debate topic. We're talking about the Hamas attack on Israel, and Israel's response to it, not gun violence in the US. If you genuinely want to talk about school shootings, there are many threads here on DCUM for that.

I am not virtue signaling, maybe you’re virtue signaling and feigning concern for the ME conflict. I am not deflecting, merely pointing out that most Americans don’t hold malicious views or intentions toward the conflict a world away. We have bigger issues. Most of us anyway. And that’s not antisemitism.

Liar. You are definitely deflecting by arguing that the US needs to mind its own business and deal with other US problems. Sorry but this thread is about Israel and Hamas, not other problems. If you want to advocate for dealing with other problems, there are plenty of other threads for that. Yet for some reason I haven't seen you doing that. The fact that you aren't shows me you are disingenuous to do it here.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

In case you missed it, there has been a huge increase in antisemitic incidents in the U.S.

There's a huge increase in all kinds of -isms in the US - Jews aren't special in the hatred they get.

Jews make up a tiny part of the population but are victims of the most hate crimes of any religious groups. So, sorry, but they are special in the hatred directed against them.

Historically? okay. The here and now in the US? I don’t know, all I know is I am worried about mentally ill children/teens/adults having access to firearms and no mental health resources amongst other pressing issues. I have zero connection or ties to the ME and neither do most Americans.

Did you know that it's actually possible to be concerned about more than one thing at a time? And that one can be concerned about Jews even if you aren't one? I'm not Jewish and in fact have some Arab Muslim blood but I have many Jewish friends, a few of whom have directly experienced threatening and harrassing behaviors toward their communities.

We need to prioritize our issues though to make any progress.

Uhh sure. Like how when it's about migrants, we suddenly get arguments like "we have homeless veterans and our own problems to deal with" - uh, gee whiz Sparky, you had ZERO interest in dealing with homeless veterans before you decided to become obsessed with migrants. Wasn't a priority for you then, why should it suddenly become a priority now? Or how an overwhelming percentage of Americans support universal mandatory background checks for gun purchases along with other common sense gun reforms and keeping kids from being shot to death in school, yet that is absolutely zero priority and has to fall far, far below things like making sure that women who medically need abortions can't get them, or making sure there are no trans people in school sports.

Yeah we’re a mess here in the US so we needn’t meddle in foreign affairs.

Hold up. You seem deeply confused. The migrant situation is a mess because we don't do enough to stop countries like Russia and Iran from destabilizing other countries, like Syria, Ukraine, Africa, Middle East and elsewhere, and we don't do enough to stabilize and help struggling countries in Latin America and elsewhere.

I am not even talking about the migrant situation. Look closer to home buddy.

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Anonymous wrote:American students being shot by mentally ill American students should take precedence over any other global issue.

The only thing worse than virtue signaling is fake concern trolling being used to deflect from the main debate topic. We're talking about the Hamas attack on Israel, and Israel's response to it, not gun violence in the US. If you genuinely want to talk about school shootings, there are many threads here on DCUM for that.

I am not virtue signaling, maybe you’re virtue signaling and feigning concern for the ME conflict. I am not deflecting, merely pointing out that most Americans don’t hold malicious views or intentions toward the conflict a world away. We have bigger issues. Most of us anyway. And that’s not antisemitism.

Liar. You are definitely deflecting by arguing that the US needs to mind its own business and deal with other US problems. Sorry but this thread is about Israel and Hamas, not other problems. If you want to advocate for dealing with other problems, there are plenty of other threads for that. Yet for some reason I haven't seen you doing that. The fact that you aren't shows me you are disingenuous to do it here.

I’m not a liar, I don’t have time to sit and debate constantly. I simply cannot fathom the need to concern ourselves with foreign affairs on the other side of the world. Additionally, it seems as if one disagrees or has any negative opinion of Israel they are branded an antisemite, and that, that is a lie it’s slander.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

In case you missed it, there has been a huge increase in antisemitic incidents in the U.S.

There's a huge increase in all kinds of -isms in the US - Jews aren't special in the hatred they get.

There's an increase in pro-Palestinian sentiment and a backlash against Zionism. Neither of these is necessarily antisemitic in the sense of being anti-Jewish, but they are widely interpreted as the same thing. Sadly, there are increases in genuine antisemitic and Islamophobic incidents. Regarding the latter, there was the case of the 6yo Muslim boy stabbed to death and his mother injured, and the shooting of three Muslim students, one of whom is now paralyzed.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

In case you missed it, there has been a huge increase in antisemitic incidents in the U.S.

There's a huge increase in all kinds of -isms in the US - Jews aren't special in the hatred they get.

There's an increase in pro-Palestinian sentiment and a backlash against Zionism. Neither of these is necessarily antisemitic in the sense of being anti-Jewish, but they are widely interpreted as the same thing. Sadly, there are increases in genuine antisemitic and Islamophobic incidents. Regarding the latter, there was the case of the 6yo Muslim boy stabbed to death and his mother injured, and the shooting of three Muslim students, one of whom is now paralyzed.

Was this in the US?

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

In case you missed it, there has been a huge increase in antisemitic incidents in the U.S.

There's a huge increase in all kinds of -isms in the US - Jews aren't special in the hatred they get.

There's an increase in pro-Palestinian sentiment and a backlash against Zionism. Neither of these is necessarily antisemitic in the sense of being anti-Jewish, but they are widely interpreted as the same thing. Sadly, there are increases in genuine antisemitic and Islamophobic incidents. Regarding the latter, there was the case of the 6yo Muslim boy stabbed to death and his mother injured, and the shooting of three Muslim students, one of whom is now paralyzed.

Was this in the US?

In NY?