Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

[Anonymous]

Governor Cox is grade-A a-hole, praying that he could find some outsider to vilify, praying he could avoid blame for running an unsafe state.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/crime/3805311/spencer-cox-remarks-charlie-kirk-alleged-killer-transcript/

You know this bad stuff happens, and for 33 hours, I was praying that, if this had to happen here, that it wouldn’t be one of us, that somebody drove from another state, somebody came from another country."


Sadly, that prayer was not answered the way I hoped for, just because I thought it would make it easier on us if we could just say, “Hey, we don’t do that here.” And indeed, Utah is a special place

... we can always point the finger at the other side, and at some point, we have to find an off-ramp — or it’s going to get much, much worse

And I desperately call on every American, Republican, Democrat, liberal, progressive, conservative, MAGA, all of us, to please, please, please follow what Charlie taught me

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea how accurate it is, but on my TikTok, I am seeing so much content from people who are in the know in the gaming world and formerly in the alt-right world who were saying they knew this was and alt-right Groyper, gamer, loser guy from the beginning. And they’re also explaining what all of these different things on the bullets mean. I’m not posting links, but it’s a big conversation going on. My guess is the media has no idea how or context in terms of how to explain this yet, plus it is all speculation.

TikTok for the win. What a source!

Yes, I couched my post with I wasn’t sure how accurate was and that it was speculation, but I was still putting it out there for context.

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Anonymous wrote:The Dems, and their accomplices in the Intelligence Community, control news outlets, social media platforms, newspapers, magazines, radio, academia, Hollywood, music, and more.

They used control of these institutions to brainwash the masses to hate Trump and his supporters.

This is not an isolated incident. This is a widespread disease that has infected the minds of millions, and it was done so intentionally. This is by design.

We are dealing with people who have been literally brainwashed by everything they consume, to hate us and everything we stand for.

We are living in an Orwellian dystopia.

+1

While they chant in unison, Trump is a fascist.

While you chant in unison we will not be replaced!

Sorry- chanting is for the pu$$y hat crew.

Gotta give it to leftists, they are great chanters. They will take weeks and weeks of work off to march about, chanting various slogans.

Why, during the work week, in the middle of the day, leftists gather to engage in all manner of marching and chanting and singing.

While the evil republicans are at work supporting billionaires, democrats are supporting democracy by marching and chanting. Carrying all manner of signs and large papier mache heads of fascists.

Imagine the hours of work democrats spend paiper mache-ing fascist heads?

Stunning! And brave.

Yes, that's what people have been trying to tell you the difference is. That is exactly what the extreme left does. Why are you glorifying violence?

It's basically the difference in bullying between high school boys and girls. Both are bad but one style is more physical than the other. One style wants you to kill yourself while the other wants to kill you themselves. One style tries to exert physical control while the other tries to exert social control.

It's all toxic and it's all a circular response to each other's most extreme elements exacerbated by social media and algorithms to lock us in bubbles of groupthink while feeding us ragebait about the other.

There's nothing wrong with protest and free speech and political activism. There is something wrong with violence. BOTHSIDES are not toxic. The violent one who hates empathy is the one that's toxic.

You really can't make this stuff up.

Kirk once said, "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."

That's an awful thing to say. And even worse to add into our political discourse.

lol, physician heal thyself. Empathy is a two way street.

You're doing the same thing that the people you're arguing with are doing. Try to practice a little empathy yourself and you might realize how hard it is to accept the reality that we are all to blame.

None of what I said takes anything away from what this kid rotted by the right wing internet did or excuses anything Trump has been doing to our country.

Where did you see that the shooter was right wing?

It all over. Everywhere. Where do you people get your news? What websites do you read?

I haven’t seen a single news story with that information.

Can you cite a single article with this information for us?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Dems, and their accomplices in the Intelligence Community, control news outlets, social media platforms, newspapers, magazines, radio, academia, Hollywood, music, and more.

They used control of these institutions to brainwash the masses to hate Trump and his supporters.

This is not an isolated incident. This is a widespread disease that has infected the minds of millions, and it was done so intentionally. This is by design.

We are dealing with people who have been literally brainwashed by everything they consume, to hate us and everything we stand for.

We are living in an Orwellian dystopia.

+1

While they chant in unison, Trump is a fascist.

While you chant in unison we will not be replaced!

Sorry- chanting is for the pu$$y hat crew.

Gotta give it to leftists, they are great chanters. They will take weeks and weeks of work off to march about, chanting various slogans.

Why, during the work week, in the middle of the day, leftists gather to engage in all manner of marching and chanting and singing.

While the evil republicans are at work supporting billionaires, democrats are supporting democracy by marching and chanting. Carrying all manner of signs and large papier mache heads of fascists.

Imagine the hours of work democrats spend paiper mache-ing fascist heads?

Stunning! And brave.

Yes, that's what people have been trying to tell you the difference is. That is exactly what the extreme left does. Why are you glorifying violence?

It's basically the difference in bullying between high school boys and girls. Both are bad but one style is more physical than the other. One style wants you to kill yourself while the other wants to kill you themselves. One style tries to exert physical control while the other tries to exert social control.

It's all toxic and it's all a circular response to each other's most extreme elements exacerbated by social media and algorithms to lock us in bubbles of groupthink while feeding us ragebait about the other.

There's nothing wrong with protest and free speech and political activism. There is something wrong with violence. BOTHSIDES are not toxic. The violent one who hates empathy is the one that's toxic.

You really can't make this stuff up.

Kirk once said, "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."

That's an awful thing to say. And even worse to add into our political discourse.

lol, physician heal thyself. Empathy is a two way street.

You're doing the same thing that the people you're arguing with are doing. Try to practice a little empathy yourself and you might realize how hard it is to accept the reality that we are all to blame.

None of what I said takes anything away from what this kid rotted by the right wing internet did or excuses anything Trump has been doing to our country.

Where did you see that the shooter was right wing?

The constant call for ‘links’ is not in good faith, because it shifts the burden of the conversation onto the other person while letting you avoid offering any position of your own. Communication scholars often describe this tactic as a form of bad-faith framing or what’s popularly called sealioning—asking for endless citations not out of genuine curiosity but as a way to derail, exhaust, or control the exchange. It keeps the other person locked in a defensive posture rather than opening space for honest engagement.

If you had provided even one link, I could see your point. But you have not provided even a single link.

What you just wrote actually proves my point. You are not engaging with what I said, you are reducing the entire discussion to whether I will jump through hoops to provide links. Communication research on online debate shows exactly this dynamic: people who demand sources in this way are rarely interested in evaluating them, they use the request itself as a way to control the exchange and keep the other person on the defensive. That is why I said the demand is not in good faith. A conversation is about exchanging reasoning and perspectives, not setting up a passfail test where you pretend you cannot respond until a link is dropped.

[Anonymous]

My guess is that over the next few days we’re going to see some longform or more deeply reported stories about the right wing infighting especially online. But I think mainstream media is still trying to get their arms around it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those who were claiming that left wing people were not saying anything bad or that there were only "a few"

https://www.charliesmurderers.com

Thanks for that incriminating evidence agaist someone who calls themself "fat idiot".

I'll be sure to fire the fat idiot who works for me!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Dems, and their accomplices in the Intelligence Community, control news outlets, social media platforms, newspapers, magazines, radio, academia, Hollywood, music, and more.

They used control of these institutions to brainwash the masses to hate Trump and his supporters.

This is not an isolated incident. This is a widespread disease that has infected the minds of millions, and it was done so intentionally. This is by design.

We are dealing with people who have been literally brainwashed by everything they consume, to hate us and everything we stand for.

We are living in an Orwellian dystopia.

+1

While they chant in unison, Trump is a fascist.

While you chant in unison we will not be replaced!

Sorry- chanting is for the pu$$y hat crew.

Gotta give it to leftists, they are great chanters. They will take weeks and weeks of work off to march about, chanting various slogans.

Why, during the work week, in the middle of the day, leftists gather to engage in all manner of marching and chanting and singing.

While the evil republicans are at work supporting billionaires, democrats are supporting democracy by marching and chanting. Carrying all manner of signs and large papier mache heads of fascists.

Imagine the hours of work democrats spend paiper mache-ing fascist heads?

Stunning! And brave.

Yes, that's what people have been trying to tell you the difference is. That is exactly what the extreme left does. Why are you glorifying violence?

It's basically the difference in bullying between high school boys and girls. Both are bad but one style is more physical than the other. One style wants you to kill yourself while the other wants to kill you themselves. One style tries to exert physical control while the other tries to exert social control.

It's all toxic and it's all a circular response to each other's most extreme elements exacerbated by social media and algorithms to lock us in bubbles of groupthink while feeding us ragebait about the other.

There's nothing wrong with protest and free speech and political activism. There is something wrong with violence. BOTHSIDES are not toxic. The violent one who hates empathy is the one that's toxic.

You really can't make this stuff up.

Kirk once said, "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."

That's an awful thing to say. And even worse to add into our political discourse.

lol, physician heal thyself. Empathy is a two way street.

You're doing the same thing that the people you're arguing with are doing. Try to practice a little empathy yourself and you might realize how hard it is to accept the reality that we are all to blame.

None of what I said takes anything away from what this kid rotted by the right wing internet did or excuses anything Trump has been doing to our country.

Where did you see that the shooter was right wing?

The constant call for ‘links’ is not in good faith, because it shifts the burden of the conversation onto the other person while letting you avoid offering any position of your own. Communication scholars often describe this tactic as a form of bad-faith framing or what’s popularly called sealioning—asking for endless citations not out of genuine curiosity but as a way to derail, exhaust, or control the exchange. It keeps the other person locked in a defensive posture rather than opening space for honest engagement.

If you had provided even one link, I could see your point. But you have not provided even a single link.

What you just wrote actually proves my point. You are not engaging with what I said, you are reducing the entire discussion to whether I will jump through hoops to provide links. Communication research on online debate shows exactly this dynamic: people who demand sources in this way are rarely interested in evaluating them, they use the request itself as a way to control the exchange and keep the other person on the defensive. That is why I said the demand is not in good faith. A conversation is about exchanging reasoning and perspectives, not setting up a passfail test where you pretend you cannot respond until a link is dropped.

My position is "I don't know" and I'm not going to be convinced by an anonymous forum troll's rantings.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Dems, and their accomplices in the Intelligence Community, control news outlets, social media platforms, newspapers, magazines, radio, academia, Hollywood, music, and more.

They used control of these institutions to brainwash the masses to hate Trump and his supporters.

This is not an isolated incident. This is a widespread disease that has infected the minds of millions, and it was done so intentionally. This is by design.

We are dealing with people who have been literally brainwashed by everything they consume, to hate us and everything we stand for.

We are living in an Orwellian dystopia.

+1

While they chant in unison, Trump is a fascist.

While you chant in unison we will not be replaced!

Sorry- chanting is for the pu$$y hat crew.

Gotta give it to leftists, they are great chanters. They will take weeks and weeks of work off to march about, chanting various slogans.

Why, during the work week, in the middle of the day, leftists gather to engage in all manner of marching and chanting and singing.

While the evil republicans are at work supporting billionaires, democrats are supporting democracy by marching and chanting. Carrying all manner of signs and large papier mache heads of fascists.

Imagine the hours of work democrats spend paiper mache-ing fascist heads?

Stunning! And brave.

Yes, that's what people have been trying to tell you the difference is. That is exactly what the extreme left does. Why are you glorifying violence?

It's basically the difference in bullying between high school boys and girls. Both are bad but one style is more physical than the other. One style wants you to kill yourself while the other wants to kill you themselves. One style tries to exert physical control while the other tries to exert social control.

It's all toxic and it's all a circular response to each other's most extreme elements exacerbated by social media and algorithms to lock us in bubbles of groupthink while feeding us ragebait about the other.

There's nothing wrong with protest and free speech and political activism. There is something wrong with violence. BOTHSIDES are not toxic. The violent one who hates empathy is the one that's toxic.

You really can't make this stuff up.

Kirk once said, "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."

That's an awful thing to say. And even worse to add into our political discourse.

lol, physician heal thyself. Empathy is a two way street.

You're doing the same thing that the people you're arguing with are doing. Try to practice a little empathy yourself and you might realize how hard it is to accept the reality that we are all to blame.

None of what I said takes anything away from what this kid rotted by the right wing internet did or excuses anything Trump has been doing to our country.

Where did you see that the shooter was right wing?

It all over. Everywhere. Where do you people get your news? What websites do you read?

I haven’t seen a single news story with that information.

Can you cite a single article with this information for us?

Come on, that’s not a real objection. Saying you haven’t personally seen a news story doesn’t mean the information doesn’t exist. That’s just shifting the burden so the other person has to spoon-feed you an article before you’ll even consider the point. If you were actually curious, you could look it up yourself. What you’re doing here isn’t about evidence, it’s about stalling the discussion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Dems, and their accomplices in the Intelligence Community, control news outlets, social media platforms, newspapers, magazines, radio, academia, Hollywood, music, and more.

They used control of these institutions to brainwash the masses to hate Trump and his supporters.

This is not an isolated incident. This is a widespread disease that has infected the minds of millions, and it was done so intentionally. This is by design.

We are dealing with people who have been literally brainwashed by everything they consume, to hate us and everything we stand for.

We are living in an Orwellian dystopia.

+1

While they chant in unison, Trump is a fascist.

While you chant in unison we will not be replaced!

Sorry- chanting is for the pu$$y hat crew.

Gotta give it to leftists, they are great chanters. They will take weeks and weeks of work off to march about, chanting various slogans.

Why, during the work week, in the middle of the day, leftists gather to engage in all manner of marching and chanting and singing.

While the evil republicans are at work supporting billionaires, democrats are supporting democracy by marching and chanting. Carrying all manner of signs and large papier mache heads of fascists.

Imagine the hours of work democrats spend paiper mache-ing fascist heads?

Stunning! And brave.

Yes, that's what people have been trying to tell you the difference is. That is exactly what the extreme left does. Why are you glorifying violence?

It's basically the difference in bullying between high school boys and girls. Both are bad but one style is more physical than the other. One style wants you to kill yourself while the other wants to kill you themselves. One style tries to exert physical control while the other tries to exert social control.

It's all toxic and it's all a circular response to each other's most extreme elements exacerbated by social media and algorithms to lock us in bubbles of groupthink while feeding us ragebait about the other.

There's nothing wrong with protest and free speech and political activism. There is something wrong with violence. BOTHSIDES are not toxic. The violent one who hates empathy is the one that's toxic.

You really can't make this stuff up.

Kirk once said, "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."

That's an awful thing to say. And even worse to add into our political discourse.

lol, physician heal thyself. Empathy is a two way street.

You're doing the same thing that the people you're arguing with are doing. Try to practice a little empathy yourself and you might realize how hard it is to accept the reality that we are all to blame.

None of what I said takes anything away from what this kid rotted by the right wing internet did or excuses anything Trump has been doing to our country.

Where did you see that the shooter was right wing?

It all over. Everywhere. Where do you people get your news? What websites do you read?

I haven’t seen a single news story with that information.

Can you cite a single article with this information for us?

Per a collaboration of many news sources, a disturbed young person murdered a political activist in cold blood after being brainwashed by the hateful rhetoric pushed on us by our awful major political parties. It sounds like some of the posters on this forum have been brainwashed into hate mode as well but fortunately they haven't become murderers...... yet

[Anonymous]

MAGA on MAGA killing

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Dems, and their accomplices in the Intelligence Community, control news outlets, social media platforms, newspapers, magazines, radio, academia, Hollywood, music, and more.

They used control of these institutions to brainwash the masses to hate Trump and his supporters.

This is not an isolated incident. This is a widespread disease that has infected the minds of millions, and it was done so intentionally. This is by design.

We are dealing with people who have been literally brainwashed by everything they consume, to hate us and everything we stand for.

We are living in an Orwellian dystopia.

+1

While they chant in unison, Trump is a fascist.

While you chant in unison we will not be replaced!

Sorry- chanting is for the pu$$y hat crew.

Gotta give it to leftists, they are great chanters. They will take weeks and weeks of work off to march about, chanting various slogans.

Why, during the work week, in the middle of the day, leftists gather to engage in all manner of marching and chanting and singing.

While the evil republicans are at work supporting billionaires, democrats are supporting democracy by marching and chanting. Carrying all manner of signs and large papier mache heads of fascists.

Imagine the hours of work democrats spend paiper mache-ing fascist heads?

Stunning! And brave.

Yes, that's what people have been trying to tell you the difference is. That is exactly what the extreme left does. Why are you glorifying violence?

It's basically the difference in bullying between high school boys and girls. Both are bad but one style is more physical than the other. One style wants you to kill yourself while the other wants to kill you themselves. One style tries to exert physical control while the other tries to exert social control.

It's all toxic and it's all a circular response to each other's most extreme elements exacerbated by social media and algorithms to lock us in bubbles of groupthink while feeding us ragebait about the other.

There's nothing wrong with protest and free speech and political activism. There is something wrong with violence. BOTHSIDES are not toxic. The violent one who hates empathy is the one that's toxic.

You really can't make this stuff up.

Kirk once said, "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."

That's an awful thing to say. And even worse to add into our political discourse.

lol, physician heal thyself. Empathy is a two way street.

You're doing the same thing that the people you're arguing with are doing. Try to practice a little empathy yourself and you might realize how hard it is to accept the reality that we are all to blame.

None of what I said takes anything away from what this kid rotted by the right wing internet did or excuses anything Trump has been doing to our country.

Where did you see that the shooter was right wing?

The constant call for ‘links’ is not in good faith, because it shifts the burden of the conversation onto the other person while letting you avoid offering any position of your own. Communication scholars often describe this tactic as a form of bad-faith framing or what’s popularly called sealioning—asking for endless citations not out of genuine curiosity but as a way to derail, exhaust, or control the exchange. It keeps the other person locked in a defensive posture rather than opening space for honest engagement.

If you had provided even one link, I could see your point. But you have not provided even a single link.

What you just wrote actually proves my point. You are not engaging with what I said, you are reducing the entire discussion to whether I will jump through hoops to provide links. Communication research on online debate shows exactly this dynamic: people who demand sources in this way are rarely interested in evaluating them, they use the request itself as a way to control the exchange and keep the other person on the defensive. That is why I said the demand is not in good faith. A conversation is about exchanging reasoning and perspectives, not setting up a passfail test where you pretend you cannot respond until a link is dropped.

My position is "I don't know" and I'm not going to be convinced by an anonymous forum troll's rantings.

Yes, you just proved the point: nothing presented here will convince you, even links, due to concept bolded above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Dems, and their accomplices in the Intelligence Community, control news outlets, social media platforms, newspapers, magazines, radio, academia, Hollywood, music, and more.

They used control of these institutions to brainwash the masses to hate Trump and his supporters.

This is not an isolated incident. This is a widespread disease that has infected the minds of millions, and it was done so intentionally. This is by design.

We are dealing with people who have been literally brainwashed by everything they consume, to hate us and everything we stand for.

We are living in an Orwellian dystopia.

+1

While they chant in unison, Trump is a fascist.

While you chant in unison we will not be replaced!

Sorry- chanting is for the pu$$y hat crew.

Gotta give it to leftists, they are great chanters. They will take weeks and weeks of work off to march about, chanting various slogans.

Why, during the work week, in the middle of the day, leftists gather to engage in all manner of marching and chanting and singing.

While the evil republicans are at work supporting billionaires, democrats are supporting democracy by marching and chanting. Carrying all manner of signs and large papier mache heads of fascists.

Imagine the hours of work democrats spend paiper mache-ing fascist heads?

Stunning! And brave.

Yes, that's what people have been trying to tell you the difference is. That is exactly what the extreme left does. Why are you glorifying violence?

It's basically the difference in bullying between high school boys and girls. Both are bad but one style is more physical than the other. One style wants you to kill yourself while the other wants to kill you themselves. One style tries to exert physical control while the other tries to exert social control.

It's all toxic and it's all a circular response to each other's most extreme elements exacerbated by social media and algorithms to lock us in bubbles of groupthink while feeding us ragebait about the other.

There's nothing wrong with protest and free speech and political activism. There is something wrong with violence. BOTHSIDES are not toxic. The violent one who hates empathy is the one that's toxic.

You really can't make this stuff up.

Kirk once said, "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."

That's an awful thing to say. And even worse to add into our political discourse.

lol, physician heal thyself. Empathy is a two way street.

You're doing the same thing that the people you're arguing with are doing. Try to practice a little empathy yourself and you might realize how hard it is to accept the reality that we are all to blame.

None of what I said takes anything away from what this kid rotted by the right wing internet did or excuses anything Trump has been doing to our country.

Where did you see that the shooter was right wing?

The constant call for ‘links’ is not in good faith, because it shifts the burden of the conversation onto the other person while letting you avoid offering any position of your own. Communication scholars often describe this tactic as a form of bad-faith framing or what’s popularly called sealioning—asking for endless citations not out of genuine curiosity but as a way to derail, exhaust, or control the exchange. It keeps the other person locked in a defensive posture rather than opening space for honest engagement.

If you had provided even one link, I could see your point. But you have not provided even a single link.

What you just wrote actually proves my point. You are not engaging with what I said, you are reducing the entire discussion to whether I will jump through hoops to provide links. Communication research on online debate shows exactly this dynamic: people who demand sources in this way are rarely interested in evaluating them, they use the request itself as a way to control the exchange and keep the other person on the defensive. That is why I said the demand is not in good faith. A conversation is about exchanging reasoning and perspectives, not setting up a passfail test where you pretend you cannot respond until a link is dropped.

Here's what we know about Tyler Robinson, the suspect in Charlie Kirk's murder


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2025/09/12/what-we-know-charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect/86091474007/

It’s not yet clear what changed in Robinson’s life leading up to the shooting, but family and friends said he had become more political and angry.

“One of Robinson’s high school classmates, Xander Luke, said he “was politically active and outspoken about people’s rights.” The accused shooter “thought both political sides were contributing to a country being in a worse place and not improving the world,” Luke said.”

Nothing about him being right wing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Dems, and their accomplices in the Intelligence Community, control news outlets, social media platforms, newspapers, magazines, radio, academia, Hollywood, music, and more.

They used control of these institutions to brainwash the masses to hate Trump and his supporters.

This is not an isolated incident. This is a widespread disease that has infected the minds of millions, and it was done so intentionally. This is by design.

We are dealing with people who have been literally brainwashed by everything they consume, to hate us and everything we stand for.

We are living in an Orwellian dystopia.

+1

While they chant in unison, Trump is a fascist.

While you chant in unison we will not be replaced!

Sorry- chanting is for the pu$$y hat crew.

Gotta give it to leftists, they are great chanters. They will take weeks and weeks of work off to march about, chanting various slogans.

Why, during the work week, in the middle of the day, leftists gather to engage in all manner of marching and chanting and singing.

While the evil republicans are at work supporting billionaires, democrats are supporting democracy by marching and chanting. Carrying all manner of signs and large papier mache heads of fascists.

Imagine the hours of work democrats spend paiper mache-ing fascist heads?

Stunning! And brave.

Yes, that's what people have been trying to tell you the difference is. That is exactly what the extreme left does. Why are you glorifying violence?

It's basically the difference in bullying between high school boys and girls. Both are bad but one style is more physical than the other. One style wants you to kill yourself while the other wants to kill you themselves. One style tries to exert physical control while the other tries to exert social control.

It's all toxic and it's all a circular response to each other's most extreme elements exacerbated by social media and algorithms to lock us in bubbles of groupthink while feeding us ragebait about the other.

There's nothing wrong with protest and free speech and political activism. There is something wrong with violence. BOTHSIDES are not toxic. The violent one who hates empathy is the one that's toxic.

You really can't make this stuff up.

Kirk once said, "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."

That's an awful thing to say. And even worse to add into our political discourse.

lol, physician heal thyself. Empathy is a two way street.

You're doing the same thing that the people you're arguing with are doing. Try to practice a little empathy yourself and you might realize how hard it is to accept the reality that we are all to blame.

None of what I said takes anything away from what this kid rotted by the right wing internet did or excuses anything Trump has been doing to our country.

Where did you see that the shooter was right wing?

The constant call for ‘links’ is not in good faith, because it shifts the burden of the conversation onto the other person while letting you avoid offering any position of your own. Communication scholars often describe this tactic as a form of bad-faith framing or what’s popularly called sealioning—asking for endless citations not out of genuine curiosity but as a way to derail, exhaust, or control the exchange. It keeps the other person locked in a defensive posture rather than opening space for honest engagement.

If you had provided even one link, I could see your point. But you have not provided even a single link.

What you just wrote actually proves my point. You are not engaging with what I said, you are reducing the entire discussion to whether I will jump through hoops to provide links. Communication research on online debate shows exactly this dynamic: people who demand sources in this way are rarely interested in evaluating them, they use the request itself as a way to control the exchange and keep the other person on the defensive. That is why I said the demand is not in good faith. A conversation is about exchanging reasoning and perspectives, not setting up a passfail test where you pretend you cannot respond until a link is dropped.

My position is "I don't know" and I'm not going to be convinced by an anonymous forum troll's rantings.

Yes, you just proved the point: nothing presented here will convince you, even links, due to concept bolded above.

Here's the concept again:

Communication research on online debate shows exactly this dynamic: people who demand sources in this way are rarely interested in evaluating them, they use the request itself as a way to control the exchange and keep the other person on the defensive.

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Anonymous wrote:The Dems, and their accomplices in the Intelligence Community, control news outlets, social media platforms, newspapers, magazines, radio, academia, Hollywood, music, and more.

They used control of these institutions to brainwash the masses to hate Trump and his supporters.

This is not an isolated incident. This is a widespread disease that has infected the minds of millions, and it was done so intentionally. This is by design.

We are dealing with people who have been literally brainwashed by everything they consume, to hate us and everything we stand for.

We are living in an Orwellian dystopia.

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While they chant in unison, Trump is a fascist.

While you chant in unison we will not be replaced!

Sorry- chanting is for the pu$$y hat crew.

Gotta give it to leftists, they are great chanters. They will take weeks and weeks of work off to march about, chanting various slogans.

Why, during the work week, in the middle of the day, leftists gather to engage in all manner of marching and chanting and singing.

While the evil republicans are at work supporting billionaires, democrats are supporting democracy by marching and chanting. Carrying all manner of signs and large papier mache heads of fascists.

Imagine the hours of work democrats spend paiper mache-ing fascist heads?

Stunning! And brave.

Yes, that's what people have been trying to tell you the difference is. That is exactly what the extreme left does. Why are you glorifying violence?

It's basically the difference in bullying between high school boys and girls. Both are bad but one style is more physical than the other. One style wants you to kill yourself while the other wants to kill you themselves. One style tries to exert physical control while the other tries to exert social control.

It's all toxic and it's all a circular response to each other's most extreme elements exacerbated by social media and algorithms to lock us in bubbles of groupthink while feeding us ragebait about the other.

There's nothing wrong with protest and free speech and political activism. There is something wrong with violence. BOTHSIDES are not toxic. The violent one who hates empathy is the one that's toxic.

You really can't make this stuff up.

Kirk once said, "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."

That's an awful thing to say. And even worse to add into our political discourse.

lol, physician heal thyself. Empathy is a two way street.

You're doing the same thing that the people you're arguing with are doing. Try to practice a little empathy yourself and you might realize how hard it is to accept the reality that we are all to blame.

None of what I said takes anything away from what this kid rotted by the right wing internet did or excuses anything Trump has been doing to our country.

Where did you see that the shooter was right wing?

The constant call for ‘links’ is not in good faith, because it shifts the burden of the conversation onto the other person while letting you avoid offering any position of your own. Communication scholars often describe this tactic as a form of bad-faith framing or what’s popularly called sealioning—asking for endless citations not out of genuine curiosity but as a way to derail, exhaust, or control the exchange. It keeps the other person locked in a defensive posture rather than opening space for honest engagement.

If you had provided even one link, I could see your point. But you have not provided even a single link.

What you just wrote actually proves my point. You are not engaging with what I said, you are reducing the entire discussion to whether I will jump through hoops to provide links. Communication research on online debate shows exactly this dynamic: people who demand sources in this way are rarely interested in evaluating them, they use the request itself as a way to control the exchange and keep the other person on the defensive. That is why I said the demand is not in good faith. A conversation is about exchanging reasoning and perspectives, not setting up a passfail test where you pretend you cannot respond until a link is dropped.

My position is "I don't know" and I'm not going to be convinced by an anonymous forum troll's rantings.

Yes, you just proved the point: nothing presented here will convince you, even links, due to concept bolded above.

Haha, what citations have you provided? Zero.

You want everyone to believe your anonymous opinion. Hard pass.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Dems, and their accomplices in the Intelligence Community, control news outlets, social media platforms, newspapers, magazines, radio, academia, Hollywood, music, and more.

They used control of these institutions to brainwash the masses to hate Trump and his supporters.

This is not an isolated incident. This is a widespread disease that has infected the minds of millions, and it was done so intentionally. This is by design.

We are dealing with people who have been literally brainwashed by everything they consume, to hate us and everything we stand for.

We are living in an Orwellian dystopia.

+1

While they chant in unison, Trump is a fascist.

While you chant in unison we will not be replaced!

Sorry- chanting is for the pu$$y hat crew.

Gotta give it to leftists, they are great chanters. They will take weeks and weeks of work off to march about, chanting various slogans.

Why, during the work week, in the middle of the day, leftists gather to engage in all manner of marching and chanting and singing.

While the evil republicans are at work supporting billionaires, democrats are supporting democracy by marching and chanting. Carrying all manner of signs and large papier mache heads of fascists.

Imagine the hours of work democrats spend paiper mache-ing fascist heads?

Stunning! And brave.

Yes, that's what people have been trying to tell you the difference is. That is exactly what the extreme left does. Why are you glorifying violence?

It's basically the difference in bullying between high school boys and girls. Both are bad but one style is more physical than the other. One style wants you to kill yourself while the other wants to kill you themselves. One style tries to exert physical control while the other tries to exert social control.

It's all toxic and it's all a circular response to each other's most extreme elements exacerbated by social media and algorithms to lock us in bubbles of groupthink while feeding us ragebait about the other.

There's nothing wrong with protest and free speech and political activism. There is something wrong with violence. BOTHSIDES are not toxic. The violent one who hates empathy is the one that's toxic.

You really can't make this stuff up.

Kirk once said, "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."

That's an awful thing to say. And even worse to add into our political discourse.

lol, physician heal thyself. Empathy is a two way street.

You're doing the same thing that the people you're arguing with are doing. Try to practice a little empathy yourself and you might realize how hard it is to accept the reality that we are all to blame.

None of what I said takes anything away from what this kid rotted by the right wing internet did or excuses anything Trump has been doing to our country.

Where did you see that the shooter was right wing?

It all over. Everywhere. Where do you people get your news? What websites do you read?

Bs he wrote fascists on the bullets. There is only one group who uses that term right now and its democrats.