ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

The statement will come by the end of the year.

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Anonymous wrote:US Soccer needs to make a statement tomorrow or trolls will troll for weeks!

Why would anyone care about trolls? 95% of people this impacts have no idea it's even being discussed.

This is not true. Younger daughter played a tournament this past weekend and literally everyone on every team was talking about. Then between games we went to catch some boys ECNL matches from our same club, everyone there was talking about it too. Watching teams and asking "which one of these are 9th graders.....".

You do understand that the vast majority of kids playing soccer in the US are not travel teams let alone ECNL. Or is your world view that small.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd hope they can let everyone know next week. People have decisions to make and the sooner everyone is informed the better. Also I can't imagine dragging out the trapeed player situation another year. That seems inexcusable.

This change may not be to 2026. You do not need to know. We do not even know if they made a decision.

If ECNL is ready to make the change, they should do it immediately. The start-first advantage will give ECNL a further advantage against GA.

They are not ready. At all.

You are not ready. Ecnl is.

If you say that you have no idea what has to be done. There is six months of work after a decision. Could that still mean 2025 -- yes but I doubt it.

Q3/Q4 players are only about 20% of the ECNL team. We are talking about a shift of 1 or 2 players on top of 6/7 ECNL players' average turnover every season. This is not a big deal if ECNL wants to switch today.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, it’s really not that big a deal for ecnl. Just adds more flexibility for Q3/Q4 kids that are trapped in the current system and it’ll play out on a case by case basis. Clubs are not going to go out of their way to disrupt their top teams but will have more options now to solve particular cases. That’s why ECNL has been fine with doing it on their own and not really wait for the entire ‘ecosystem’.

The change will have more of an impact on how teams are put together in the younger ages but kids that excel will always play up, be it within birth year as a Q4 or the year above.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd hope they can let everyone know next week. People have decisions to make and the sooner everyone is informed the better. Also I can't imagine dragging out the trapeed player situation another year. That seems inexcusable.

This change may not be to 2026. You do not need to know. We do not even know if they made a decision.

If ECNL is ready to make the change, they should do it immediately. The start-first advantage will give ECNL a further advantage against GA.

They are not ready. At all.

You are not ready. Ecnl is.

If you say that you have no idea what has to be done. There is six months of work after a decision. Could that still mean 2025 -- yes but I doubt it.

Q3/Q4 players are only about 20% of the ECNL team. We are talking about a shift of 1 or 2 players on top of 6/7 ECNL players' average turnover every season. This is not a big deal if ECNL wants to switch today.

This change is going to shake up ECNL rosters much more than that, with a shift of Q3/Q4 ECNL players down a year, a shift of a few Q3/Q4 ECNL-R players both down a year and into ECNL rosters, and a shift of a few Q1/Q2 ECNL players into ECNL-R rosters. For the same reasons there currently are only a few Q3/Q4 players on ECNL rosters, there will only be a few Q1/Q2 players on ECNL rosters after the change.

[Anonymous]

The people expecting instant gratification are cute. There is no obvious reason for them to notify the public of their decision at this time. With the amount of sh*t we give organizations when they do something half-baked, its only right that they take their time with all this. And it's pretty obvious the change is going to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, it’s really not that big a deal for ecnl. Just adds more flexibility for Q3/Q4 kids that are trapped in the current system and it’ll play out on a case by case basis. Clubs are not going to go out of their way to disrupt their top teams but will have more options now to solve particular cases. That’s why ECNL has been fine with doing it on their own and not really wait for the entire ‘ecosystem’.

The change will have more of an impact on how teams are put together in the younger ages but kids that excel will always play up, be it within birth year as a Q4 or the year above.

Its a massive deal for the SoCal elite players. Every ECNL club is about to be flooded with Q3/Q4 talent and here in SoCal there is talent everywhere. A flight one team blew up last year and half the girls ended up in ECNL. Now blow up every NPL, GA and E64 team and watch the carnage. If you're an average Q1/Q2 ECNL player I'd prepare to find a new league to play with.

[Anonymous]

One would think if not going ahead they would report that quickly. No reason to report this until they can answer the next questions of when and how. Boards vote. Staff implements and communicates

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Its a massive deal for the SoCal elite players. Every ECNL club is about to be flooded with Q3/Q4 talent and here in SoCal there is talent everywhere. A flight one team blew up last year and half the girls ended up in ECNL. Now blow up every NPL, GA and E64 team and watch the carnage. If you're an average Q1/Q2 ECNL player I'd prepare to find a new league to play with.

Exactly. This just sets the world into it's proper place. It's so odd they moved away from SY. An average recruiting class is made up of the 20% of trapped players that survived the system and their younger classmates. If you're serving the masses then clearly the whole system is setup for those having fun (the majority) and those that are college bound (not a small number of players). Trying to be like the rest of the world led us down a losing road. Hurry up and put it back the right way to serve our NCAA system.

[Anonymous]

If BY is just a failed experiment (in the US, given our focus on the collegiate athlete) and the previous SY approach had an 8/1 cutoff, what would be the reason to shift to 9/1 cutoff now?

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, it’s really not that big a deal for ecnl. Just adds more flexibility for Q3/Q4 kids that are trapped in the current system and it’ll play out on a case by case basis. Clubs are not going to go out of their way to disrupt their top teams but will have more options now to solve particular cases. That’s why ECNL has been fine with doing it on their own and not really wait for the entire ‘ecosystem’.

The change will have more of an impact on how teams are put together in the younger ages but kids that excel will always play up, be it within birth year as a Q4 or the year above.

It’s a massive deal for the SoCal elite players. Every ECNL club is about to be flooded with Q3/Q4 talent and here in SoCal there is talent everywhere. A flight one team blew up last year and half the girls ended up in ECNL. Now blow up every NPL, GA and E64 team and watch the carnage. If you're an average Q1/Q2 ECNL player I'd prepare to find a new league to play with.

Maybe in SoCal but not around here. NPL/RL is not strong here. It’ll just be the same players shuffling around the same ECNL/GA teams and clubs. There is barely enough talent to fill all these “elite” teams now. Changing the age cutoffs won’t change it

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Anonymous wrote:If BY is just a failed experiment (in the US, given our focus on the collegiate athlete) and the previous SY approach had an 8/1 cutoff, what would be the reason to shift to 9/1 cutoff now?

The 9/1 that was listed with 8/1 in the feedback request was only to make it seem like they were actually looking for feedback

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, it’s really not that big a deal for ecnl. Just adds more flexibility for Q3/Q4 kids that are trapped in the current system and it’ll play out on a case by case basis. Clubs are not going to go out of their way to disrupt their top teams but will have more options now to solve particular cases. That’s why ECNL has been fine with doing it on their own and not really wait for the entire ‘ecosystem’.

The change will have more of an impact on how teams are put together in the younger ages but kids that excel will always play up, be it within birth year as a Q4 or the year above.

It’s a massive deal for the SoCal elite players. Every ECNL club is about to be flooded with Q3/Q4 talent and here in SoCal there is talent everywhere. A flight one team blew up last year and half the girls ended up in ECNL. Now blow up every NPL, GA and E64 team and watch the carnage. If you're an average Q1/Q2 ECNL player I'd prepare to find a new league to play with.

Maybe in SoCal but not around here. NPL/RL is not strong here. It’ll just be the same players shuffling around the same ECNL/GA teams and clubs. There is barely enough talent to fill all these “elite” teams now. Changing the age cutoffs won’t change it

The lack of talent depth in the DMV leads to a meaningful quality gap between the top and the bottom of most ECNL rosters around here. The Q3/Q4 players at the bottom of those ECNL rosters will become rock stars one year below. The Q1/Q2 players at the bottom of those ECNL rosters will lose their spots to the best Q3/Q4 RL players who previously could not overcome the up to 6 month development shortfall but will now have an up to 6 month development advantage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd hope they can let everyone know next week. People have decisions to make and the sooner everyone is informed the better. Also I can't imagine dragging out the trapeed player situation another year. That seems inexcusable.

This change may not be to 2026. You do not need to know. We do not even know if they made a decision.

If ECNL is ready to make the change, they should do it immediately. The start-first advantage will give ECNL a further advantage against GA.

They are not ready. At all.

You are not ready. Ecnl is.

If you say that you have no idea what has to be done. There is six months of work after a decision. Could that still mean 2025 -- yes but I doubt it.

Q3/Q4 players are only about 20% of the ECNL team. We are talking about a shift of 1 or 2 players on top of 6/7 ECNL players' average turnover every season. This is not a big deal if ECNL wants to switch today.

This change is going to shake up ECNL rosters much more than that, with a shift of Q3/Q4 ECNL players down a year, a shift of a few Q3/Q4 ECNL-R players both down a year and into ECNL rosters, and a shift of a few Q1/Q2 ECNL players into ECNL-R rosters. For the same reasons there currently are only a few Q3/Q4 players on ECNL rosters, there will only be a few Q1/Q2 players on ECNL rosters after the change.

Correct, I don't think Q1/Q2 parents realize how much of an advantage their kids have due to age. On one of my kid's team, there is one Q4 and zero Q3.

[Anonymous]

Let's do something interesting. Use actual facts.

How about we all look at the birth months of our kids current rosters and post the number/percentage of kids born in Q3/Q4

I'm quite sure every single ECNL team in the dmv are represented in these 2,000 pages