Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

Why do we need to perpetuate the holocaust when most Americans anyway have no dog in this fight? It seems as if perpetuating differences and diversity can sometimes lead to more division and prejudice. Our goal as Americans should be to promote inclusion and cohesion, not constantly try and remind us of our differences and why bad things happened a century ago.

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i24 News today: “Hamas founder's grandson killed during an airstrike in Gaza - Palestinian reports

Ali Abu Ajah, the grandson of Hamas founder Ahmed Yassin, was killed during an airstrike in Gaza, according to Palestinian reports.

Sheikh Ahmed Yassin was eliminated by Israel in a targeted attack in 2004.”

Hamas keeps losing its senior leaders. And they have lost thousands of their fighters. They should capitulate and surrender and abandon their ideology of violence and genocide of Jews. That will end the current bombing and provide possibility of a path to peace for Palestinians.

I just don’t see that happening with the remaining five or so leaders in Gaza. It has been suggested that one is a malignant narcissist. But the degree to which Hamas is doing its death cult thing around Khan Younis (sp) suggests that Israel may be onto something in focusing on that place.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

Many Hamas leaders deny the Holocaust happened, as do many other anti-semitic groups. And it's those same people who are trying to frame what's happening in Gaza as being the worst genocide in history. It's a major reach.

Most Americans have no dog in this fight though. We have bigger fish to fry.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

In case you missed it, there has been a huge increase in antisemitic incidents in the U.S.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

In case you missed it, there has been a huge increase in antisemitic incidents in the U.S.

No, I didn’t miss it and it’s horrific. But it’s not the only atrocity occurring in the US currently. And why we need to concern ourselves with the ME is beyond me. Most Americans have no dog in this fight.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

Many Hamas leaders deny the Holocaust happened, as do many other anti-semitic groups. And it's those same people who are trying to frame what's happening in Gaza as being the worst genocide in history. It's a major reach.

Most Americans have no dog in this fight though. We have bigger fish to fry.

of course we do. The spread of autocratic governments endangers us. They tend to be agressive (see Putin and the Hamas attack) and they will come for us.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

In case you missed it, there has been a huge increase in antisemitic incidents in the U.S.

There's a huge increase in all kinds of -isms in the US - Jews aren't special in the hatred they get.

[Anonymous]

School shootings and childhood mental illness is rampant, how about we start working as an inclusive and cohesive society to ameliorate these atrocities.

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Nothing against Jewish Americans at all, I just fail to see where their issues take precedence over any other oppressed American.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

Many Hamas leaders deny the Holocaust happened, as do many other anti-semitic groups. And it's those same people who are trying to frame what's happening in Gaza as being the worst genocide in history. It's a major reach.

Most Americans have no dog in this fight though. We have bigger fish to fry.

of course we do. The spread of autocratic governments endangers us. They tend to be agressive (see Putin and the Hamas attack) and they will come for us.

Israel is a country led by a corrupt, criminal leader who has a stranglehold on an entire nation thanks to the support of a radical right-wing political party. Is this what democracy looks like to the US? This is a banana Republic, not a democracy.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

Many Hamas leaders deny the Holocaust happened, as do many other anti-semitic groups. And it's those same people who are trying to frame what's happening in Gaza as being the worst genocide in history. It's a major reach.

Most Americans have no dog in this fight though. We have bigger fish to fry.

of course we do. The spread of autocratic governments endangers us. They tend to be agressive (see Putin and the Hamas attack) and they will come for us.

Israel is a country led by a corrupt, criminal leader who has a stranglehold on an entire nation thanks to the support of a radical right-wing political party. Is this what democracy looks like to the US? This is a banana Republic, not a democracy.

But it is still a democracy. People can still vote him out. It may go the way of its neighbors, but it is not there yet. (kind of the the US right now with Trump)

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Anonymous wrote:Those who argue that Jews do not a historical connection to Israel are wrong. They were there before their opponents.

Genetic testing says, uhhh bullshit.

False. Genetic testing confirms ties as do thousands upon thousands of architectural excavations. To deny Jews’ historical presence there is just wrong. I mean heck, there’s even an ancient Jewish Temple in Gaza, for Christ’s sake. Oh yeah, Christ too! A Jewish man. Er, wait, a Palestinian Jew?

Furthermore the Jews were there long before Christianity or Islam was concocted.

Yeah, all true. The problem is that the people calling themselves Jews in 2024 like Netanyahu and Smotrich have about as much ancient Jewish blood in them as I do, which is a lengthy way to say “none”.

There is no such thing as " Jewish Blood" . You talk like a Zealot.

The vast majority of Arabs in Palestine, Lebanon & Syria are the exact same haplotype as Sephardic Jews: E1b1

They are the same " people "

You can’t have it both ways though, if the Palestinians have more middle eastern blood, they have a right to remain exactly where they are. How can one argue to remove them? Yes, the Sephardic jews have a right to be there fine, but the remaining nonSephardic have zero ties there. It is what it is. These are Europeans.

Deep breaths. I think you mean Mizrahi. Study up.

Ok why do half or more European persons have a right to force indigenous people out? We are still allowing this to happen in 2024?

What makes them "indigenous?" Because they colonized the area several hundred years ago, during the Arab conquests of muslim expansion? And what makes Jews somehow not indigenous, given they originated there, and the land used to be known as Judea, and have DNA ties to the area?

Why do you refuse to address the irrefutable fact that the genetic ties of the typical regional Jew to that specific region is far less significant (i.e., comparatively inferior) than the genetic tie of the typical regional Arab to that specific region?

Based on what? Based on comparing the DNA of a modern-day Palestinian to the DNA of a Palestinian Arab from 300 years ago? So what?

No, based on the fact that genetic testing confirms that nearly 100% of Palestinians are 100% genetically tied to the region, and less than 10% of Israelis are 100% tied to the region.

Those numbers are 100% made up. Palestinian DNA shows haplotypes connecting them to Lebanese, Egyptian, Iranian, Armenian, Turk et cetera et cetera et cetera. They aren't uniquely Palestinian and uniquely tied to the area as you claim. Instead, their DNA tells the story of Muslim conquest and then Ottoman rule, migrations of people into the area, intermarriages and so on. If you want to claim that Jews are somehow disqualified because of migrations and intermarriages then Palestinians are no better.

A lot of Gaza was settled by Egyptians in the 19th century. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1949-3606.2012.00172.x

Cool story, bro. Now that you've prayed to St. Google for search engine justification for already entrenched position, are you signing-up for genetic testing of all in the region to sort all of this out? What's that? No? Yeah, that's what we thought ...

"Cool story bro?"

Sorry but a scholarly research article published in a peer-reviewed journal of Middle East studies by far outranks your juvenile OPINIONS. Every. Single. Day.

Did you share a link to the article containing that peer reviewed research?

[Anonymous]

Just an observation... when the pro-Palestine rhetoric starts to break down suddenly it all turns to "the US has its own problems ad should mind its own business" a/k/a stop supporting Israel.

It's deflection and "don't look at my bailey, look at the motte!"

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, that also decreases the number of civilians killed. So maybe genocide might be a reach.

"Genocide" has always been a reach. But then again, it's not a reach to people who deny that 6 million Jews were systematically and deliberately killed by the Nazis.

Yes, the Holocaust happened unfortunately, but almost everyone responsible for this atrocity is dead today. Hopefully, as Americans anyway, we have learned from this and move on and try and realize that most American nonJews born after WWII, in my experience anyway, harbor no hatred or prejudice toward Jews, they’re indifferent, they don’t even realize who is jewish or not. It’s not a topic of conversation for most American non jewish people, it’s a nonissue. I have jewish friends who I didn’t even reaize were jewish initially, they live productive comfortable lives here in the US.

In case you missed it, there has been a huge increase in antisemitic incidents in the U.S.

There's a huge increase in all kinds of -isms in the US - Jews aren't special in the hatred they get.

Jews make up a tiny part of the population but are victims of the most hate crimes of any religious groups. So, sorry, but they are special in the hatred directed against them.

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Anonymous wrote:Just an observation... when the pro-Palestine rhetoric starts to break down suddenly it all turns to "the US has its own problems ad should mind its own business" a/k/a stop supporting Israel.

It's deflection and "don't look at my bailey, look at the motte!"

No, it’s not even proPalestinian, most Americans just don’t care. It’s not on their radar even. We desperately need help here in the US on many levels and perpetuating our differences isn’t helping any cause.