How do you tell a child they life they knew is over?

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I've lost confidence in the current Administration. They contradict themselves on a regular basis. We do what's best for our family and resumed our lives. Sad to see so many people following directives without questioning. Read the stats and data. I won't be voting for the people who favor lockdowns anymore. I'm switching teams.
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Anonymous wrote:I've lost confidence in the current Administration. They contradict themselves on a regular basis. We do what's best for our family and resumed our lives. Sad to see so many people following directives without questioning. Read the stats and data. I won't be voting for the people who favor lockdowns anymore. I'm switching teams.


What politicians are still in favor of lockdowns?
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Anonymous wrote:I've lost confidence in the current Administration. They contradict themselves on a regular basis. We do what's best for our family and resumed our lives. Sad to see so many people following directives without questioning. Read the stats and data. I won't be voting for the people who favor lockdowns anymore. I'm switching teams.


What politicians are still in favor of lockdowns?


Exactly!! No one has been in favor of lockdowns. This is just another Republican poster pretending to be a Democrat who is done with the Democratic Party. So transparent
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Anonymous wrote:I've lost confidence in the current Administration. They contradict themselves on a regular basis. We do what's best for our family and resumed our lives. Sad to see so many people following directives without questioning. Read the stats and data. I won't be voting for the people who favor lockdowns anymore. I'm switching teams.


What politicians are still in favor of lockdowns?


Exactly!! No one has been in favor of lockdowns. This is just another Republican poster pretending to be a Democrat who is done with the Democratic Party. So transparent


Yeah, even my staunchly Republican parents have given up this talking point. No politician in their right mind is going to speak in favor of a lockdown again.
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No data that says vaccine is superior to natural immunity. You have yet to cite one source.

I may allow my kids to get the Covid vaccine - they are always vaccinated against the flu. But not when it’s EUA. And will wait to see the risk/benefit.


There’s actually tons of data that vaccine-induced immunity is more robust and likely more long lasting than naturally acquired immunity. But I’m not your research assistant so I’m not going to dig up links.


Nice try. https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1346855/retrieve

“To conclude, available tests and current knowledge do not tell us about the duration of immunity and protection against reinfection,
but recent evidence suggests that natural infection may provide similar protection against symptomatic disease as vaccination, at
least for the available follow up period.33 The emergence of variants of concern poses challenges and their potential to evade


It’s anecdotal but know of man in 60s in Florida who refused to get shot due to having COVID before . He died in August after horrible weeks in ICU. Get the shot!


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21255670v1
“ Vaccination was highly effective with overall estimated efficacy for documented infection of 92·8% (CI:[92·6, 93·0]); hospitalization 94·2% (CI:[93·6, 94·7]); severe illness 94·4% (CI:[93·6, 95·0]); and death 93·7% (CI:[92·5, 94·7]). Similarly, the overall estimated level of protection from prior SARS-CoV-2 infection for documented infection is 94·8% (CI:[94·4, 95·1]); hospitalization 94·1% (CI:[91·9, 95·7]); and severe illness 96·4% (CI:[92·5, 98·3]). Our results question the need to vaccinate previously-infected individuals.”



After "horrible" weeks in the ICU. You fearmongers always have to appeal to emotion, don't you?


You think he was having fun in the ICU? Have you ever dealt with a loved one in there? It's not pretty.


Adjectives are what emotional people use. I have no use for emotional people who manipulate for political gain.




Um....


You really can't tell the difference? Keep on appealing to emotion. Get your vaxport. Jab your five-year-old. I will never forgive you for destroying my life.


NP, but…where do you live??? We are in NoVA. Oldest DD just started Kindergarten fully in person. Younger DD is in daycare, which reopened over a year ago. We aren’t flying anywhere, but we visit local family any time we want (indoors, unmasked), spent lots of time at the pool this summer, have gone to several amusement parks and the zoo, took a lovely beach vacation, and basically are living our lives normally. I don’t get why you think your life has been destroyed. Care to explain what you can no longer do?


I personally can't wear a mask for over 15-20 minutes without a panic attack. Used to travel to customers once a week, but I haven't been able to fly since last June. I tried. I couldn't board, because I was gasping for air and crying. My company has closed its main office and made all the consultant positions into remote. My mental health has taken a nosedive, because I need to be around people. My friends have 90% ditched me for being irresponsible enough to have my kids at an in-person private school. I've gained 30 pounds from the antidepressants I've needed because of all this and spent all my fun money on therapy. I am trying SO hard, but yes. I can't work in-person. I can't make new friends because everyone thinks I'm an anti-masker. I can't travel.

So I'm glad life is normal for you, but it's not normal for me. And I miss it.


Just because you can’t wear a mask doesn’t mean they don’t work and aren’t necessary in some settings. Your friends were right to ditch you. I can’t imagine being careful all last year and then wanting to ruin it by being around someone so desperate to get around the virus mitigation strategies they sent their kid to private school.
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Anonymous wrote:It won’t ever go back? Are you this dramatic in real life? Life will eventually go back to normal. That’s how you explain it.


It won’t. The half-life of antibodies is 36 days. There will never be an effective vaccine.


Oh geez. You have no idea what you are talking about. The half life is a lot longer for some people. And the vaccine are creating T cell responses. And people have B cell. You are either a troll or really dumb. I vote troll.


Boom! I love when I am right.


Stay in your basement while we live our lives.


Oops! You dropped the idiotic “basement” line. Thanks for letting us know you’re an imbecile.
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No data that says vaccine is superior to natural immunity. You have yet to cite one source.

I may allow my kids to get the Covid vaccine - they are always vaccinated against the flu. But not when it’s EUA. And will wait to see the risk/benefit.


There’s actually tons of data that vaccine-induced immunity is more robust and likely more long lasting than naturally acquired immunity. But I’m not your research assistant so I’m not going to dig up links.


Nice try. https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1346855/retrieve

“To conclude, available tests and current knowledge do not tell us about the duration of immunity and protection against reinfection,
but recent evidence suggests that natural infection may provide similar protection against symptomatic disease as vaccination, at
least for the available follow up period.33 The emergence of variants of concern poses challenges and their potential to evade


It’s anecdotal but know of man in 60s in Florida who refused to get shot due to having COVID before . He died in August after horrible weeks in ICU. Get the shot!


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21255670v1
“ Vaccination was highly effective with overall estimated efficacy for documented infection of 92·8% (CI:[92·6, 93·0]); hospitalization 94·2% (CI:[93·6, 94·7]); severe illness 94·4% (CI:[93·6, 95·0]); and death 93·7% (CI:[92·5, 94·7]). Similarly, the overall estimated level of protection from prior SARS-CoV-2 infection for documented infection is 94·8% (CI:[94·4, 95·1]); hospitalization 94·1% (CI:[91·9, 95·7]); and severe illness 96·4% (CI:[92·5, 98·3]). Our results question the need to vaccinate previously-infected individuals.”



After "horrible" weeks in the ICU. You fearmongers always have to appeal to emotion, don't you?


You think he was having fun in the ICU? Have you ever dealt with a loved one in there? It's not pretty.


Adjectives are what emotional people use. I have no use for emotional people who manipulate for political gain.




Um....


You really can't tell the difference? Keep on appealing to emotion. Get your vaxport. Jab your five-year-old. I will never forgive you for destroying my life.


Hahaha. Your melodramatic tantrum is so precious.
Anonymous
I gently tried to explain to my children (7 and 4) last month that coronavirus is probably never going to go away and my seven-year-old almost started crying.

My heart absolutely breaks for my kids - and all kids! So many cornerstones of childhood and youth are either not accessible or severely limited. It is awful. Worse, I really don’t know what I can do to make things better.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I gently tried to explain to my children (7 and 4) last month that coronavirus is probably never going to go away and my seven-year-old almost started crying.

My heart absolutely breaks for my kids - and all kids! So many cornerstones of childhood and youth are either not accessible or severely limited. It is awful. Worse, I really don’t know what I can do to make things better.

I'm sorry, this makes no sense to me. I'm now and in the past been very coveid conscious, but for the last few months, since April, my kids have been living a fairly normal life.

The only thing I don't have them doing is sports. But all of their friends are doing sports and activities. They see their friends at school. They see them at home masked, because they're all elementary.

Everyone is in school. Every activity is mostly up and running. I honestly don't understand how your kids lives are being severely restricted?
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No data that says vaccine is superior to natural immunity. You have yet to cite one source.

I may allow my kids to get the Covid vaccine - they are always vaccinated against the flu. But not when it’s EUA. And will wait to see the risk/benefit.


There’s actually tons of data that vaccine-induced immunity is more robust and likely more long lasting than naturally acquired immunity. But I’m not your research assistant so I’m not going to dig up links.


Nice try. https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1346855/retrieve

“To conclude, available tests and current knowledge do not tell us about the duration of immunity and protection against reinfection,
but recent evidence suggests that natural infection may provide similar protection against symptomatic disease as vaccination, at
least for the available follow up period.33 The emergence of variants of concern poses challenges and their potential to evade


It’s anecdotal but know of man in 60s in Florida who refused to get shot due to having COVID before . He died in August after horrible weeks in ICU. Get the shot!


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.20.21255670v1
“ Vaccination was highly effective with overall estimated efficacy for documented infection of 92·8% (CI:[92·6, 93·0]); hospitalization 94·2% (CI:[93·6, 94·7]); severe illness 94·4% (CI:[93·6, 95·0]); and death 93·7% (CI:[92·5, 94·7]). Similarly, the overall estimated level of protection from prior SARS-CoV-2 infection for documented infection is 94·8% (CI:[94·4, 95·1]); hospitalization 94·1% (CI:[91·9, 95·7]); and severe illness 96·4% (CI:[92·5, 98·3]). Our results question the need to vaccinate previously-infected individuals.”



After "horrible" weeks in the ICU. You fearmongers always have to appeal to emotion, don't you?


You think he was having fun in the ICU? Have you ever dealt with a loved one in there? It's not pretty.


Adjectives are what emotional people use. I have no use for emotional people who manipulate for political gain.




Um....


You really can't tell the difference? Keep on appealing to emotion. Get your vaxport. Jab your five-year-old. I will never forgive you for destroying my life.


Hahaha. Your melodramatic tantrum is so precious.


NP here. For someone who is so down on "emotion", you are lashing out in all directions here.
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Anonymous wrote:I gently tried to explain to my children (7 and 4) last month that coronavirus is probably never going to go away and my seven-year-old almost started crying.

My heart absolutely breaks for my kids - and all kids! So many cornerstones of childhood and youth are either not accessible or severely limited. It is awful. Worse, I really don’t know what I can do to make things better.

I'm sorry, this makes no sense to me. I'm now and in the past been very coveid conscious, but for the last few months, since April, my kids have been living a fairly normal life.

The only thing I don't have them doing is sports. But all of their friends are doing sports and activities. They see their friends at school. They see them at home masked, because they're all elementary.

Everyone is in school. Every activity is mostly up and running. I honestly don't understand how your kids lives are being severely restricted?


+1. That PP causing a TON of unnecessary stress and anxiety in her children. SHE is the catalyst for fear and dread and limitations in their lives right now, not the masks or Covid. It is sick and sad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I gently tried to explain to my children (7 and 4) last month that coronavirus is probably never going to go away and my seven-year-old almost started crying.

My heart absolutely breaks for my kids - and all kids! So many cornerstones of childhood and youth are either not accessible or severely limited. It is awful. Worse, I really don’t know what I can do to make things better.


You are absolutely right, it is never going to go away. It will become endemic, just like the flu and many other viruses. Vaccines improve the situation, therapeutics will help, etc. but this pretending like life will never be “normal” again, and scaring your 7yo to the point of crying, isn’t healthy or accurate. You must realize that. Do you scare your children about the flu or RSV?
This is TEMPORARY, people. Come on. My unvaccinated children have been living a nearly normal life for at least the past 6 months, with the exception of a curb to some indoor activities like indoor playdates and dining. But they’ve both been in daycare, my oldest just started Kindergarten, and we’ve made an effort to provide them with age-appropriate information without scaring them,
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Anonymous wrote:I gently tried to explain to my children (7 and 4) last month that coronavirus is probably never going to go away and my seven-year-old almost started crying.

My heart absolutely breaks for my kids - and all kids! So many cornerstones of childhood and youth are either not accessible or severely limited. It is awful. Worse, I really don’t know what I can do to make things better.


You are absolutely right, it is never going to go away. It will become endemic, just like the flu and many other viruses. Vaccines improve the situation, therapeutics will help, etc. but this pretending like life will never be “normal” again, and scaring your 7yo to the point of crying, isn’t healthy or accurate. You must realize that. Do you scare your children about the flu or RSV?
This is TEMPORARY, people. Come on. My unvaccinated children have been living a nearly normal life for at least the past 6 months, with the exception of a curb to some indoor activities like indoor playdates and dining. But they’ve both been in daycare, my oldest just started Kindergarten, and we’ve made an effort to provide them with age-appropriate information without scaring them,


+1 Do you honestly think that “normal life” means life with no risks? That is literally life in a plastic bubble. We will adapt and go on. That is resilience, which it sounds like you are struggling with. Don’t traumatize your child.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I gently tried to explain to my children (7 and 4) last month that coronavirus is probably never going to go away and my seven-year-old almost started crying.

My heart absolutely breaks for my kids - and all kids! So many cornerstones of childhood and youth are either not accessible or severely limited. It is awful. Worse, I really don’t know what I can do to make things better.


Yikes. What have you been doing to your poor kids that would lead to such a reaction? There's no reason life needs to be any different for kids at this point. I recognize it is in the DC area, particularly in places like Montgomery County, but the pediatric vaccine will convert all but the most histrionic people. And hopefully CPS can step in with the other cases.
Anonymous
My kids are not going to indoor birthday parties but other than that their life is awesome!
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