DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If the rumor was false, US Soccer could put it to bed with one tweet saying the future of GDA is certain. Hasn't happened.

Similar to ECNL not responding to the rumors that US Soccer may procure and fold it into a USSF DA program. No response from ECNL on that rumor as well.

True. But ECNL boosters have been waging war against USSF for years while USSF has simply worn the velvet glove in return.

USSF made a few major mistakes in handling the DA program which has allowed ECNL to persist and grow and that’s been part of the issue. If the federation has any fortitude, they would change the way they are doing business to make DA more attractive than ECNL for clubs, and if they were to do that along with restricting national team berths to DA clubs, they’d win the competition in a walk.

So you actually think that being in DA should be a requirement for national team? Nobody else? That's an interesting take.

Should the federation responsible for the national teams be able to develop players in an academy of their making by rules they have created to optimize player development. Absolutely. This should make sense to you as well.

No, to me it doesn't. There are plenty of players who develop perfectly well outside the DA system. Few professional leagues, in any sport, will turn down an exceptional player just because they developed outside their system.

And that national federation, in all their wisdom, didn't make the last world cup. But it won't matter in about 12 hours, so who cares at this point. But hey, maybe our kids DA shirts will be collectors items in a few years!

[Anonymous]

MLS will run their OWN youth league. Its not over for the best of the best boys in our country.

NWSL should (but wont) don't the same (no money).

Now, instead of running a overly expensive youth league, USSF should fully fund NWSL academies for girls.

ITS THAT EASY!

BEST OF THE BEST ONLY.

SCOUTING TO GET RECOMMENDED AND ACCEPTED.

NO LOCAL COACHES WITH TIES. NO LOCAL COACHES WITH INFLUENCE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. STOP : The vast majority of you 5 minutes ago refused to acknowledge that the DA was failing apart. Everyone who told you so was an ignorant troll.

2. CLUE: When a coach of a YNT (NC Courage) leaves the DA for ECNL it should have told you something.

3. VA going south plays Spring HS soccer while MD going north plays Fall HS soccer. As a result, they will never be in the same conference.

3. NOVA already has 4 ECNL teams. They will not go to (7) with the addition of FCV, Arlington and METRO. Mclean will argue that they are suffering because of Arlington DA and Loudoun will argue they are suffering because of FCV.

Now, I believe that FCV will get the bid and Mclean will benefit with the Arlington not getting a bid. However, I truly believe that Arlington should get the bid because they are a huge organization with a true pipeline and they will complete all the "corners" of NOVA (Loudoun (Loudoun), Prince William (VDA), Arlington (Arlington), BRYC / McClean (Fairfax).

Either way, Mclean will ultimately benefit from being squeezed in between Ashburn and Arlington.

Metro will not get ECNL. Again, Mclean is the beneficiary.

4. Current MA conference has 11 teams. With the addition of NC Courage and or FCV/Arlington, that will push the two South Carolina teams to the SE conference where they will they will join Tophat, et al. If both Arlington and FCV get a bid, it will push Charlotte to the SE conference. The SE conference will then be a very good conference. Less travel.

5. Losing Charlotte and CESA and picking up Arlington / FCV is a wash.

6. Travel for the MA division should never require a overnight hotel stay unless its a double header weekend.

7. I believe more regional showcases are in the future so you can been seen by local college coaches (MA Showcase, SE Showcase, NE Showcase, etc). No need to go to FL, AZ to be seen by east coast schools.

MA division could look like this:

Richmond
VDA
Mclean
BRYC
Loudoun
FC Virginia
Arlington
NC Courage
NCFC (Courage 2nd team per argument)
NC Fusion
Wilmington

CESA and Charlotte dropping to SE conference

Great post. Can you do Maryland next?

Wondering how Bethesda and Armour fit in with Celtic and Maryland United. I'd imagine they would split that NE division.

Maybe:

Bethesda
Armour
Celtic
MD United
FC Delco
Lehigh
PA Classics
PA Bucks
Penn Fusion
Uki's
Maybe a south Jersey team or 2

No drive more than 2.5 hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. STOP : The vast majority of you 5 minutes ago refused to acknowledge that the DA was failing apart. Everyone who told you so was an ignorant troll.

2. CLUE: When a coach of a YNT (NC Courage) leaves the DA for ECNL it should have told you something.

3. VA going south plays Spring HS soccer while MD going north plays Fall HS soccer. As a result, they will never be in the same conference.

3. NOVA already has 4 ECNL teams. They will not go to (7) with the addition of FCV, Arlington and METRO. Mclean will argue that they are suffering because of Arlington DA and Loudoun will argue they are suffering because of FCV.

Now, I believe that FCV will get the bid and Mclean will benefit with the Arlington not getting a bid. However, I truly believe that Arlington should get the bid because they are a huge organization with a true pipeline and they will complete all the "corners" of NOVA (Loudoun (Loudoun), Prince William (VDA), Arlington (Arlington), BRYC / McClean (Fairfax).

Either way, Mclean will ultimately benefit from being squeezed in between Ashburn and Arlington.

Metro will not get ECNL. Again, Mclean is the beneficiary.

4. Current MA conference has 11 teams. With the addition of NC Courage and or FCV/Arlington, that will push the two South Carolina teams to the SE conference where they will they will join Tophat, et al. If both Arlington and FCV get a bid, it will push Charlotte to the SE conference. The SE conference will then be a very good conference. Less travel.

5. Losing Charlotte and CESA and picking up Arlington / FCV is a wash.

6. Travel for the MA division should never require a overnight hotel stay unless its a double header weekend.

7. I believe more regional showcases are in the future so you can been seen by local college coaches (MA Showcase, SE Showcase, NE Showcase, etc). No need to go to FL, AZ to be seen by east coast schools.

MA division could look like this:

Richmond
VDA
Mclean
BRYC
Loudoun
FC Virginia
Arlington
NC Courage
NCFC (Courage 2nd team per argument)
NC Fusion
Wilmington

CESA and Charlotte dropping to SE conference

That would be a great Girls MA division ECNL. I agree that Metro United won’t get picked up and that Arlington should and that FCV is too much of a powerhouse to not get picked up. But what about BRYC? THey’ve been spiraling downhill (on the girls side) for the last couple of years. Other than the 17s and 18s, who are juniors and seniors in HS and were established teams before the DA crazy started, their teams are in or close to last place in the current ECNL division. Would ECNL drop BRYC?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CLUE #2: Cindy Parlow Cone, the president of USSF and former member of NCFC/ NC Courage, took over the Federation and NC Courage left DA, that should have told you something.

So, in summary you have a leadership change that happened essentially in the dark of the night as a result of a lawsuit, that made an arbitrary, large scale decision to scuttle an organization. The new leadership tipped off cronies of a competing organization and business associates in a member club so they could bail out before the storm, which obviously fueled the rumor mill. That club will potentially financially benefit at the expense of others who were not afforded that insider information.

Any lawyers on this thread who are DA parents? My sense of what’s happened here is that it’s at the very least unethical and possibly illegal.

Regardless, not a good start for a new regime in a questionable organization, historically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CLUE #2: Cindy Parlow Cone, the president of USSF and former member of NCFC/ NC Courage, took over the Federation and NC Courage left DA, that should have told you something.

So, in summary you have a leadership change that happened essentially in the dark of the night as a result of a lawsuit, that made an arbitrary, large scale decision to scuttle an organization. The new leadership tipped off cronies of a competing organization and business associates in a member club so they could bail out before the storm, which obviously fueled the rumor mill. That club will potentially financially benefit at the expense of others who were not afforded that insider information.

Any lawyers on this thread who are DA parents? My sense of what’s happened here is that it’s at the very least unethical and possibly illegal.

Regardless, not a good start for a new regime in a questionable organization, historically.

If someone sues please also sue the USWNT, the NWSL, and China!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CLUE #2: Cindy Parlow Cone, the president of USSF and former member of NCFC/ NC Courage, took over the Federation and NC Courage left DA, that should have told you something.

So, in summary you have a leadership change that happened essentially in the dark of the night as a result of a lawsuit, that made an arbitrary, large scale decision to scuttle an organization. The new leadership tipped off cronies of a competing organization and business associates in a member club so they could bail out before the storm, which obviously fueled the rumor mill. That club will potentially financially benefit at the expense of others who were not afforded that insider information.

Any lawyers on this thread who are DA parents? My sense of what’s happened here is that it’s at the very least unethical and possibly illegal.

Regardless, not a good start for a new regime in a questionable organization, historically.

If someone sues please also sue the USWNT, the NWSL, and China!

The guy who called Sue... SMDH Sucks to Suck, welcome to the hypocrisy of ever single sports forum out there. You will always know more by who you know. Don’t get upset because this time your club didn’t benefit from it and you weren’t sitting at the cool kids table at Sweetwater Tavern to know the inside scoop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. STOP : The vast majority of you 5 minutes ago refused to acknowledge that the DA was failing apart. Everyone who told you so was an ignorant troll.

2. CLUE: When a coach of a YNT (NC Courage) leaves the DA for ECNL it should have told you something.

3. VA going south plays Spring HS soccer while MD going north plays Fall HS soccer. As a result, they will never be in the same conference.

3. NOVA already has 4 ECNL teams. They will not go to (7) with the addition of FCV, Arlington and METRO. Mclean will argue that they are suffering because of Arlington DA and Loudoun will argue they are suffering because of FCV.

Now, I believe that FCV will get the bid and Mclean will benefit with the Arlington not getting a bid. However, I truly believe that Arlington should get the bid because they are a huge organization with a true pipeline and they will complete all the "corners" of NOVA (Loudoun (Loudoun), Prince William (VDA), Arlington (Arlington), BRYC / McClean (Fairfax).

Either way, Mclean will ultimately benefit from being squeezed in between Ashburn and Arlington.

Pipe dream or a good idea fairy. Not gonna happen

Metro will not get ECNL. Again, Mclean is the beneficiary.

4. Current MA conference has 11 teams. With the addition of NC Courage and or FCV/Arlington, that will push the two South Carolina teams to the SE conference where they will they will join Tophat, et al. If both Arlington and FCV get a bid, it will push Charlotte to the SE conference. The SE conference will then be a very good conference. Less travel.

5. Losing Charlotte and CESA and picking up Arlington / FCV is a wash.

6. Travel for the MA division should never require a overnight hotel stay unless its a double header weekend.

7. I believe more regional showcases are in the future so you can been seen by local college coaches (MA Showcase, SE Showcase, NE Showcase, etc). No need to go to FL, AZ to be seen by east coast schools.

MA division could look like this:

Richmond
VDA
Mclean
BRYC
Loudoun
FC Virginia
Arlington
NC Courage
NCFC (Courage 2nd team per argument)
NC Fusion
Wilmington

CESA and Charlotte dropping to SE conference

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No reason for VDA anymore since there is no more DA.

The only way VDA still exists in the future is if VSA and PWSI merge clubs and just call the merger VDA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No reason for VDA anymore since there is no more DA.

The only way VDA still exists in the future is if VSA and PWSI merge clubs and just call the merger VDA

Bwahahaha.... I like you ^^^^

[Anonymous]

On the boys side, I would expect the teams to play EDP, as they were already doing at some age groups. The level is much better than ECNL for less travel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MLS will run their OWN youth league. Its not over for the best of the best boys in our country.

NWSL should (but wont) don't the same (no money).

Now, instead of running a overly expensive youth league, USSF should fully fund NWSL academies for girls.

ITS THAT EASY!

BEST OF THE BEST ONLY.

SCOUTING TO GET RECOMMENDED AND ACCEPTED.

NO LOCAL COACHES WITH TIES. NO LOCAL COACHES WITH INFLUENCE.

Caps lock was annoying but yes love the idea of funding NWSL and MLS academies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No reason for VDA anymore since there is no more DA.

You wish, VDA has girls ECNL and the DA program. We aren’t going anywhere chump.

You’re correct. You’ll just spin up a new entity and call it VECNL, because you get an F for effort when it comes to name creativity.... chump.

You’re a f****** idiot! The name “Virginia Development Academy” has nothing to do with the “DA” Who gives a s*** if VDA holds the DA in it. Try and get a life and understand that the phrase Development Academy can be used for all sorts of things. Now I know your little mind can’t wrap around this concept but try to follow along. Anyone can use that name regardless of it’s affiliation.

I see the PWSI loyalists are upset about losing their DA patches. It was 100% about the DA name and arrogant, so arrogant

[Anonymous]

On boys side I see many going to EDP where they already have relationship rather than ECNL where bad blood remains

[Anonymous]

To the ex-DA parents trying to reform ECNL conferences, I recommend you instead get ready to tryout at ECNL clubs if that’s what you wish. ECNL is not going to restructure themselves and fold everybody in. Nor are they going to let ex-DA clubs draw away players from its current members.

In the future, yes there’s potential to fold in clubs to grow it even further. But there’s already a regional league of ECNL, not that it’s impressive. Yes, this does suck but our league won’t just take you because you want the highest league. Earn it, as our clubs did.