A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

I'm a person of color and I will be voting for Trump in 2020. My wife, who I can assure you is an actual woman as she gave birth to our children, is also voting for Trump in 2020.

Well you are one of the small minority. Vote for the conman, white supremacist all you want but he won't respect you.

DP. You can keep repeating your utter nonsense, but no one is buying it. Well, those of us with any common sense, that is. You just sound like a petulant child who isn’t getting your way. Not a good look.

+1.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, but the Petulant Children's Party is making that choice easier by the day.

Many I know voted for the conman but the petulant display by the liar in the white house is making the choice easier. Trump's approval has fallen in EVERY SINGLE STATE since 2017. And his overall avg approval never crossed 43%.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

You're using a source that had HRC winning in 2016 election. You never learn, do you?

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Anonymous wrote:Why will he win?

So many of us are just sick of the MSM reporting. It is pretty sad that when it comes to reporting about Trump, a large number of Americans insist on seeing evidence of the claims made by the MSM because reporting on this president has become so, so ridiculously bad. The past two years, we have been fed lie after lie about Trump and his "nefarious" ties to Russia. When the Russian hoax is promoted daily on the MSM, any contact with anyone remotely Russian looks incriminating, when in actuality, there was nothing to many of these contacts.

Much of the public is tuning out these "reporters." The anchors, the pundits, the "journalists," the former administration talking heads - all of them promoted a false narrative and continue to push fake news. Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon, Chris Matthews.......so sick of the lies. One only has to see their sinking ratings numbers to know that Americans are tuning them out.

So, Trump will win again because Americans realize we are being lied to daily and are sending a huge middle finger to the MSM and the Democrats - one in the same.

Again, Mueller's most recent damning statements about the report say you are wrong.

No, they don't.

the special counsel clown show virtually guarantees trumps reelection.

+1.

I was truly surprised yesterday. Trump couldn't prove himself innocent so he's guilty -- what kind of lawyer or public official thinks that way outside of totalitarian regimes?

+1.
Mueller: “I don’t have any evidence but that doesn’t mean he’s innocent.”
Me: Ummmm, it kind of does actually.

+100
This seems to be a difficult concept for Democrats to grasp. But they will keep beating this dead horse, nevertheless.

+ a thousand.

It's amazing how "progressives" want go back to the middle ages, when the government had total prosecutorial control with no presumption of innocence or due process.

It is the progressives who set the country's direction and lead the nation. The CONS at best con the voters and delay the agenda of the progressives. But times they are a changing. Obamacare is today very popular and tomorrow we will have Universal healthcare. Taxes are going up on the rich because our debt is equal to GDP and there is no way we could pay the interest on debt without taxes on the rich, which 75% of America supports. Climate change action is coming because thats what the genY and genZ wants. Comprehensive immigration reform is happening because the diverse America of the future wants it.

The cons are just impotent passengers on the train called America. You guys can rant, shout and cry, BUT WE PROGRESSIVES DRIVE THE TRAIN. Its is the truth. YOU guys can't take America back. period. Sooner or later you will accept universal healthcare like how you accepted gay marriage after you lost the issue, like how you lost on obamacare and like how you lost on banking regulations, and like how you lost on Dreamers.

Oh, the irony is rich with this one!

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

I'm a person of color and I will be voting for Trump in 2020. My wife, who I can assure you is an actual woman as she gave birth to our children, is also voting for Trump in 2020.

Well you are one of the small minority. Vote for the conman, white supremacist all you want but he won't respect you.

DP. You can keep repeating your utter nonsense, but no one is buying it. Well, those of us with any common sense, that is. You just sound like a petulant child who isn’t getting your way. Not a good look.

+1.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, but the Petulant Children's Party is making that choice easier by the day.

Many I know voted for the conman but the petulant display by the liar in the white house is making the choice easier. Trump's approval has fallen in EVERY SINGLE STATE since 2017. And his overall avg approval never crossed 43%.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

You're using a source that had HRC winning in 2016 election. You never learn, do you?

Ha ha, you cultists don’t believe in any poll because all of them shows the loser losing to pretty much anyone in 2020. I bet you would believe in the polls if even one of them shows him winning. I don’t believe in any single poll. I do believe in avg of polls and they were right in 2016 and will be right in 2020. You don’t get stats and polls and odds. Too late to learn. So believe what you what, he is going down as the worst ever in American history.

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Anonymous wrote:(And please please please, my only request to you: don't engage in violence against that "darkness" that according to you needs to be "cleansed." That's how real trouble starts)

Violence is the trademark of WHITE SUPREMACISTS, a GOP special. We are just gonna just push through liberal policies one after another because YOU CAN'T DENY AMERICANS WHAT THEY WANT.

This guy has got to be a troll. A Russian one, at that. Too funny.

But as to your last "point" - you do realize Americans are made up of far more than liberals, right? Or do you? It's disconcerting that you actually believe you're speaking for all of America. You're not. Keep up the trolling!

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Anonymous wrote:(And please please please, my only request to you: don't engage in violence against that "darkness" that according to you needs to be "cleansed." That's how real trouble starts)

Violence is the trademark of WHITE SUPREMACISTS, a GOP special. We are just gonna just push through liberal policies one after another because YOU CAN'T DENY AMERICANS WHAT THEY WANT.

This guy has got to be a troll. A Russian one, at that. Too funny.

But as to your last "point" - you do realize Americans are made up of far more than liberals, right? Or do you? It's disconcerting that you actually believe you're speaking for all of America. You're not. Keep up the trolling!

You do know that the GOP is a minority party and has won the popular vote just once in over 30 years. So yeah a majority of Americans are progressives.

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Anonymous wrote:On the contrary, I think it's a brilliant move.

Frankly surprised he didn't think of it earlier.

This should have been part of NAFTA since the 90s, when Perot warned us about a certain giant sucking sound...

Exactly. I cheered when I heard the news today.

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Anonymous wrote:(And please please please, my only request to you: don't engage in violence against that "darkness" that according to you needs to be "cleansed." That's how real trouble starts)

Violence is the trademark of WHITE SUPREMACISTS, a GOP special. We are just gonna just push through liberal policies one after another because YOU CAN'T DENY AMERICANS WHAT THEY WANT.

Both sides have white supremacists - historically and currently.

What liberal policies are being pushed through?

We don't live in the past. In the current, no white supremacists are democrats. You can't try to play the same conman game of "both sides".

All trump has done is pass tax cuts for the rich. Everything is going where the progressives are going. Tax cuts are easy to reverse but not Obamacare or fuel standards or gay marriage.

1: Gay marriage is law.
2: Financial regulation are the law. Next step - taxes on the rich is going higher.
3. Obamacare is the law and is very popular. Next stop universal healthcare.
4. Climate change is now being fought by CA,NY and Obama fuel standards stays BECAUSE CA and NY dictates that. No auto company will make one for CA and another for red states.


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LOL, you think democrats arent racist? what? wrong.

You need to check a few recent newspapers on the things on your list. the ACA is in trouble and is in fact in litigation to be cancelled. Your climate change point is completely nonsensical.

You are also crazy if you think taxes on the rich are going higher considering taxes were just lowered on the rich and corporations!

+1.

Dem PP is truly deluded.

Having said that, if his Party of Delusion takes over, you can bet on higher taxes -- on everyone.

The only way to pay for their promises is to, like in Europe, to introduce something like a 25% sales/ VAT tax, to double payroll taxes, and to significantly increase income taxes on the middle class.

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The insane liberal PP needs to be called out for the troll s/he is. It's so obvious. Look at the bizarre syntax. We're wasting our time trying to have a rational conversation with someone who is clearly irrational. Notice how any actual "real" liberals have deserted this thread, leaving the weirdo to fend for him/herself? Even they know it's a troll.

Uh, no. I got tired of the MAGA circle jerk. The delusions, racism, and misogyny get old after several pages.

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

I'm a person of color and I will be voting for Trump in 2020. My wife, who I can assure you is an actual woman as she gave birth to our children, is also voting for Trump in 2020.

Well you are one of the small minority. Vote for the conman, white supremacist all you want but he won't respect you.

DP. You can keep repeating your utter nonsense, but no one is buying it. Well, those of us with any common sense, that is. You just sound like a petulant child who isn’t getting your way. Not a good look.

+1.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, but the Petulant Children's Party is making that choice easier by the day.

Many I know voted for the conman but the petulant display by the liar in the white house is making the choice easier. Trump's approval has fallen in EVERY SINGLE STATE since 2017. And his overall avg approval never crossed 43%.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

You're using a source that had HRC winning in 2016 election. You never learn, do you?

Ha ha, you cultists don’t believe in any poll because all of them shows the loser losing to pretty much anyone in 2020. I bet you would believe in the polls if even one of them shows him winning. I don’t believe in any single poll. I do believe in avg of polls and they were right in 2016 and will be right in 2020. You don’t get stats and polls and odds. Too late to learn. So believe what you what, he is going down as the worst ever in American history.

Dear crazy troll,

No avg of polls was right about 2016.

As another PP asked you, please stop trolling.

If you want to engage with arguments and less name-calling and outright craziness, please try. If not, go and enjoy a thread more of your liking.

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

I'm a person of color and I will be voting for Trump in 2020. My wife, who I can assure you is an actual woman as she gave birth to our children, is also voting for Trump in 2020.

Well you are one of the small minority. Vote for the conman, white supremacist all you want but he won't respect you.

DP. You can keep repeating your utter nonsense, but no one is buying it. Well, those of us with any common sense, that is. You just sound like a petulant child who isn’t getting your way. Not a good look.

+1.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, but the Petulant Children's Party is making that choice easier by the day.

Many I know voted for the conman but the petulant display by the liar in the white house is making the choice easier. Trump's approval has fallen in EVERY SINGLE STATE since 2017. And his overall avg approval never crossed 43%.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

You're using a source that had HRC winning in 2016 election. You never learn, do you?

Ha ha, you cultists don’t believe in any poll because all of them shows the loser losing to pretty much anyone in 2020. I bet you would believe in the polls if even one of them shows him winning. I don’t believe in any single poll. I do believe in avg of polls and they were right in 2016 and will be right in 2020. You don’t get stats and polls and odds. Too late to learn. So believe what you what, he is going down as the worst ever in American history.

This may be the case but it doesn't mean he isn't going to win again. If you think he is going to lose to 'pretty much anyone' in 2020 you are kidding yourself. Beto, Kamala, Booker, Warren, Buttieg.....none of these people will ever be president of the united states. It's just not going to happen. Biden, maybe I guess but I feel like his full frontal style will play right into DJT's hands. He is going to use the exact same playbook as last time and unless democrats get it together, he is going to win again. You may think that anyone else is better but I think that is bubble thinking. He won last time without convincing a single person in the DC area that he should be president. Could have lost every vote and it wouldn't have mattered. He is not running a campaign to please you and you may not realize it but he has actually turned into a pretty good campaign manager.

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Anonymous wrote:(And please please please, my only request to you: don't engage in violence against that "darkness" that according to you needs to be "cleansed." That's how real trouble starts)

Violence is the trademark of WHITE SUPREMACISTS, a GOP special. We are just gonna just push through liberal policies one after another because YOU CAN'T DENY AMERICANS WHAT THEY WANT.

Both sides have white supremacists - historically and currently.

What liberal policies are being pushed through?

We don't live in the past. In the current, no white supremacists are democrats. You can't try to play the same conman game of "both sides".

All trump has done is pass tax cuts for the rich. Everything is going where the progressives are going. Tax cuts are easy to reverse but not Obamacare or fuel standards or gay marriage.

1: Gay marriage is law.
2: Financial regulation are the law. Next step - taxes on the rich is going higher.
3. Obamacare is the law and is very popular. Next stop universal healthcare.
4. Climate change is now being fought by CA,NY and Obama fuel standards stays BECAUSE CA and NY dictates that. No auto company will make one for CA and another for red states.


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LOL, you think democrats arent racist? what? wrong.

You need to check a few recent newspapers on the things on your list. the ACA is in trouble and is in fact in litigation to be cancelled. Your climate change point is completely nonsensical.

You are also crazy if you think taxes on the rich are going higher considering taxes were just lowered on the rich and corporations!

+1.

Dem PP is truly deluded.

Having said that, if his Party of Delusion takes over, you can bet on higher taxes -- on everyone.

The only way to pay for their promises is to, like in Europe, to introduce something like a 25% sales/ VAT tax, to double payroll taxes, and to significantly increase income taxes on the middle class.

+2
The insane liberal PP needs to be called out for the troll s/he is. It's so obvious. Look at the bizarre syntax. We're wasting our time trying to have a rational conversation with someone who is clearly irrational. Notice how any actual "real" liberals have deserted this thread, leaving the weirdo to fend for him/herself? Even they know it's a troll.

Uh, no. I got tired of the MAGA circle jerk. The delusions, racism, and misogyny get old after several pages.

Right. You're the same old troll who continues to insult Trump voters. Talk about delusions, racism, and misogyny. You have dragged this thread so far off-topic. Hopefully Jeff will see this and kick you out.

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

I'm a person of color and I will be voting for Trump in 2020. My wife, who I can assure you is an actual woman as she gave birth to our children, is also voting for Trump in 2020.

Well you are one of the small minority. Vote for the conman, white supremacist all you want but he won't respect you.

DP. You can keep repeating your utter nonsense, but no one is buying it. Well, those of us with any common sense, that is. You just sound like a petulant child who isn’t getting your way. Not a good look.

+1.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, but the Petulant Children's Party is making that choice easier by the day.

Many I know voted for the conman but the petulant display by the liar in the white house is making the choice easier. Trump's approval has fallen in EVERY SINGLE STATE since 2017. And his overall avg approval never crossed 43%.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

You're using a source that had HRC winning in 2016 election. You never learn, do you?

Ha ha, you cultists don’t believe in any poll because all of them shows the loser losing to pretty much anyone in 2020. I bet you would believe in the polls if even one of them shows him winning. I don’t believe in any single poll. I do believe in avg of polls and they were right in 2016 and will be right in 2020. You don’t get stats and polls and odds. Too late to learn. So believe what you what, he is going down as the worst ever in American history.

Dear crazy troll,

No avg of polls was right about 2016.

As another PP asked you, please stop trolling.

If you want to engage with arguments and less name-calling and outright craziness, please try. If not, go and enjoy a thread more of your liking.

+100
This guy would have been banned long ago if he was not a liberal troll. Instead, he's dragged down what was a productive and interesting thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I predict Trump will win the electoral college and lose the popular vote again.

If so, we’re in for four more years of exhausting liberal tantrums.

I am optimistic they will learn at some point.

But the "poorly educated" cult 45 learns no lessons from the constant lies , tantrums, corruption and fraud of the Russian Puppet.

Actually, we learn and have reinforced for us daily that the progressives hate America and the bill of rights; that they want to turn America into Venezuela but with more tranny bathrooms; and that if they could lock a person up for thought crime they would.
Horrific people, all of them.

What? We are only stopping the liar and Russian puppet from making America into Russia ruled by the wealthy oligarchy while the rest are sent to Alaskan Gulags. You see, if you mention extreme Venezuela, we would mention extreme Russia.

No collusion, no obstruction, total exoneration. I know this for a fact.

44 days the Mueller report has been available to read for the Democrats with the only thing being redacted is the grand jury info as required by law. Not one has done so.

That means the democrats don't want the truth, and they know the whole "muh Russia" thing is a hoax.

Trump will win 2020

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

I'm a person of color and I will be voting for Trump in 2020. My wife, who I can assure you is an actual woman as she gave birth to our children, is also voting for Trump in 2020.

Well you are one of the small minority. Vote for the conman, white supremacist all you want but he won't respect you.

DP. You can keep repeating your utter nonsense, but no one is buying it. Well, those of us with any common sense, that is. You just sound like a petulant child who isn’t getting your way. Not a good look.

+1.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, but the Petulant Children's Party is making that choice easier by the day.

Many I know voted for the conman but the petulant display by the liar in the white house is making the choice easier. Trump's approval has fallen in EVERY SINGLE STATE since 2017. And his overall avg approval never crossed 43%.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

You're using a source that had HRC winning in 2016 election. You never learn, do you?

Ha ha, you cultists don’t believe in any poll because all of them shows the loser losing to pretty much anyone in 2020. I bet you would believe in the polls if even one of them shows him winning. I don’t believe in any single poll. I do believe in avg of polls and they were right in 2016 and will be right in 2020. You don’t get stats and polls and odds. Too late to learn. So believe what you what, he is going down as the worst ever in American history.

This may be the case but it doesn't mean he isn't going to win again. If you think he is going to lose to 'pretty much anyone' in 2020 you are kidding yourself. Beto, Kamala, Booker, Warren, Buttieg.....none of these people will ever be president of the united states. It's just not going to happen. Biden, maybe I guess but I feel like his full frontal style will play right into DJT's hands. He is going to use the exact same playbook as last time and unless democrats get it together, he is going to win again. You may think that anyone else is better but I think that is bubble thinking. He won last time without convincing a single person in the DC area that he should be president. Could have lost every vote and it wouldn't have mattered. He is not running a campaign to please you and you may not realize it but he has actually turned into a pretty good campaign manager.

Completely agree. He's not an a$$-kisser, nor should he be.

As for Biden, I always feel like he's acting. Acting the part of the benevolent elder statesman. Acting the part of "everyman". He says what he thinks people want to hear, and it just rings false. Tiresome and a turnoff.

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

I'm a person of color and I will be voting for Trump in 2020. My wife, who I can assure you is an actual woman as she gave birth to our children, is also voting for Trump in 2020.

Well you are one of the small minority. Vote for the conman, white supremacist all you want but he won't respect you.

DP. You can keep repeating your utter nonsense, but no one is buying it. Well, those of us with any common sense, that is. You just sound like a petulant child who isn’t getting your way. Not a good look.

+1.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, but the Petulant Children's Party is making that choice easier by the day.

Many I know voted for the conman but the petulant display by the liar in the white house is making the choice easier. Trump's approval has fallen in EVERY SINGLE STATE since 2017. And his overall avg approval never crossed 43%.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

You're using a source that had HRC winning in 2016 election. You never learn, do you?

Ha ha, you cultists don’t believe in any poll because all of them shows the loser losing to pretty much anyone in 2020. I bet you would believe in the polls if even one of them shows him winning. I don’t believe in any single poll. I do believe in avg of polls and they were right in 2016 and will be right in 2020. You don’t get stats and polls and odds. Too late to learn. So believe what you what, he is going down as the worst ever in American history.

This may be the case but it doesn't mean he isn't going to win again. If you think he is going to lose to 'pretty much anyone' in 2020 you are kidding yourself. Beto, Kamala, Booker, Warren, Buttieg.....none of these people will ever be president of the united states. It's just not going to happen. Biden, maybe I guess but I feel like his full frontal style will play right into DJT's hands. He is going to use the exact same playbook as last time and unless democrats get it together, he is going to win again. You may think that anyone else is better but I think that is bubble thinking. He won last time without convincing a single person in the DC area that he should be president. Could have lost every vote and it wouldn't have mattered. He is not running a campaign to please you and you may not realize it but he has actually turned into a pretty good campaign manager.

Completely agree. He's not an a$$-kisser, nor should he be.

As for Biden, I always feel like he's acting. Acting the part of the benevolent elder statesman. Acting the part of "everyman". He says what he thinks people want to hear, and it just rings false. Tiresome and a turnoff.

As supposed to the reality TV presidency of third rate actors.

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Anonymous wrote:On the contrary, I think it's a brilliant move.

Frankly surprised he didn't think of it earlier.

This should have been part of NAFTA since the 90s, when Perot warned us about a certain giant sucking sound...

China is worlds largest economy, largest market(for many American companies too) , largest trader, and largest economy throughout human history (but for the times it was second to India) but for about 150 years.

China is a natural force and we can’t stop them. China was brought down by free slave labor and free plunder from native Americans. Free market will always find the best place to make things for the lowest cost. You try to be protective the cost rises to consumers, the company becomes complacent without global competitions and product quality suffers and the decline starts.

LOL, you are that China shill. Your arguments are so repetitive and idiotic that it's obvious whenever you post. Still trying to draw a connection between the slaves in the US and the economic collapse of insular China in the 19th century? I'm surprised that you have not mentioned that China has 5000 years of history. There is nothing unstoppable about China, nor does the US want to stop China so long as they play fairly on the world stage - the same way we don't try to stop Germany, Australia, or any of our other strong allies in the world. You'll notice that no one outside of Russia and North Korea speaks up in defense of China because China doesn't have any real friends on the world stage. To the extent that the US and the rest of the world trades with China only occur from the standpoint that we are tolerating China's misbehaviors up to a point. Now we come to that point where we can't tolerate them anymore and the rest of the world agrees.