Shooting in Reston

[Anonymous]

8:35 You are being ridiculous. The comments weren't that bad and obviously the mom was smarter than the other people in his life. If he could drive at 3:00 am and was smart enough at history he has the smarts enough to know what he was doing. He should be convicted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This is really horrible, but I have to say the Buzzfeed article about the mother texting the daughter’s friends, emailing the school, staging an intervention, etc. really made me think about better ways to handle an issue like that. Obviously these parents were very unlucky that their daughter happened to be dating a total psycho. Most crap boyfriends aren’t homicidal monsters. But this does make you think about how to interact with teenagers.

What would you suggest? The child was a minor and under their control and it was their house. Do they not have the right to kick someone out of their house after already telling them not to come back without expecting them to turn a gun on them? Where were the Lorton parents in all of this? Sneaking out at night multiple, multiple times to the Reston home, access to a gun, swastika in the HOA common space, twitter feed with hate speech. Why did those parents spend so much time and money toward this private school but had no idea any of these things were happening with their son? I don't believe they had nothing to do with this.

They probably didn’t pay for the school. FCPS has programs that can support kids with emotional and behavioral problems, but when there are severe mental health issues, the county contracts out with private schools who are more equipped to help these kids. The county assumes the cost of the private school as well as transportation for the student when there is an IEP with documented emotional and mental health concerns. Emotional/mental health disabilities fall under IDEA which is a federal law.

The house photo alone shows they had enough money to follow their child better. If they didn't have to pay for the school all the more reason not to follow their child's Twitter account etc.

[Anonymous]

The article also said that the Lorton teen's parents were made aware their child was sneaking out of the house at night and about the intervention and how their child was not allowed to visit anymore. So how does the child then end up with a gun and at their house with the parents in full knowledge of these events? If the child is mentally unstable wouldn't that convict the parents?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The buzzfeed article is heartbreaking. It seems like the mother was trying everything she could think of.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/texts-from-mom-shot-dead-after-confronting-boyfriend?utm_term=.avnxwlgB7#.nv7jb6LEV

Yikes. I have an even worse impression of the mother now than I did before after reading the BuzzFeed article. What was she thinking using that type of inflammatory language with another young teen? Especially as the young girl also is a student at the school, which is a therapeutic and educational school for children with emotional and behavioral problems. It shows extremely poor judgement on the mom's part. Wow.

All of you sitting in judgment of these families and the actions they did or did not take are almost as bad as the shooter. You are sitting in your high horse with very, very little information judging and speculating and entertaining yourselves with your all-knowing superiority. You have not walked a mile in their shoes so you need to cut the judgment. You might not have killed them physically as the kid did, but in the aftermath you are assassinating their characters, especially the mom. You should be very, very, very ashamed of yourselves. Find your humanity and just shut up.

Exactly this.

[Anonymous]

I’m surprised that no one has brought up the fact that he tried to kill himself. I do wonder if it was all pre planned or just unfolded. Did he intend on commiting suicide and decide to take her parents out along with him, or did he not plan on killing them and once he realized what he had done decided to kill himself to avoid life in jail?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The buzzfeed article is heartbreaking. It seems like the mother was trying everything she could think of.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/texts-from-mom-shot-dead-after-confronting-boyfriend?utm_term=.avnxwlgB7#.nv7jb6LEV

Yikes. I have an even worse impression of the mother now than I did before after reading the BuzzFeed article. What was she thinking using that type of inflammatory language with another young teen? Especially as the young girl also is a student at the school, which is a therapeutic and educational school for children with emotional and behavioral problems. It shows extremely poor judgement on the mom's part. Wow.

All of you sitting in judgment of these families and the actions they did or did not take are almost as bad as the shooter. You are sitting in your high horse with very, very little information judging and speculating and entertaining yourselves with your all-knowing superiority. You have not walked a mile in their shoes so you need to cut the judgment. You might not have killed them physically as the kid did, but in the aftermath you are assassinating their characters, especially the mom. You should be very, very, very ashamed of yourselves. Find your humanity and just shut up.

You either are close to this family or relate to this situation in some way, but as an outsider I can tell you that you sound really concerning and unhinged and need to ask yourself where this is coming from. Comparing these commenters in any way to that murderer and saying they are almost as bad is highly concerning on your part. Experienced parents know we get judged all the time and yes strangers will judge you if your child was banned from someone's house, you know he is unstable and somehow he ends up at that very house and murders. People will have questions and many concerns. For your own sake I suggest you take a breather from this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised that no one has brought up the fact that he tried to kill himself. I do wonder if it was all pre planned or just unfolded. Did he intend on commiting suicide and decide to take her parents out along with him, or did he not plan on killing them and once he realized what he had done decided to kill himself to avoid life in jail?

Also, the fact that he didn’t seek out the parents and shoot them but instead shot them after they came to her bedroom (apparently he had already been there for an hour) lends me to think that they got into an altercation and he shot them in the heat of the moment.

[Anonymous]

But why would he bring a gun to a house that he wasn't allowed to go to in the middle of the night? Who cares about the altercation? He knew he wasn't allowed there and so did the parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:18:23, so funny that you think your status as grandchild of someone who experienced discriminated gives you credibility. Some of us experience it directly.

Being murdered by Nazis in Poland is "being discriminated against" ? Wow. Just wow.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mom is being sainted [here] because she was a liberal.

She was a gentile who hated Nazism. As a Jew, whose great grandfather was murdered by the Nazis, I appreciate that. We really do need more people like her. And fewer who are more eager to assign blame to her, than to an actual neo nazi who killed two people with a gun.

Because no one hates Nazism except liberals.

Many conservatives do, and if they had been as stalwart in opposing bigotry as this mom, and had tried to stop their daughter from dating a Nazi, and had been murdered for doing so, I would think just as highly of them.

But that is a hypothetical, and I am addressing what actually happened here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom is being sainted [here] because she was a liberal.

She was a gentile who hated Nazism. As a Jew, whose great grandfather was murdered by the Nazis, I appreciate that. We really do need more people like her. And fewer who are more eager to assign blame to her, than to an actual neo nazi who killed two people with a gun.

Because no one hates Nazism except liberals.

And a mentally ill teen with a bunch of toxic nonsense in his head is history repeating itself.

How many Islamic terrorists are in fact mentally ill?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But why would he bring a gun to a house that he wasn't allowed to go to in the middle of the night? Who cares about the altercation? He knew he wasn't allowed there and so did the parents.

He was not mentally well. Maybe he brought the gun as a means to compel the girl to go with him ("If you don't talk to me, I'm going to shoot myself right here on your lawn", "If you don't leave with me, I'm going to shoot myself right here in your bedroom"). Then the parents walked in and all hell broke loose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But why would he bring a gun to a house that he wasn't allowed to go to in the middle of the night? Who cares about the altercation? He knew he wasn't allowed there and so did the parents.

He was not mentally well. Maybe he brought the gun as a means to compel the girl to go with him ("If you don't talk to me, I'm going to shoot myself right here on your lawn", "If you don't leave with me, I'm going to shoot myself right here in your bedroom"). Then the parents walked in and all hell broke loose.

If a boy like that was still in my house at 4:00 AM, I'd be in an altercation as well. Why are you not blaming the parents and child who enabled all of this?

[Anonymous]

9:41 again. I typically do not blame parents in situations where children are at fault, but this one just seems to be complete negligence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The buzzfeed article is heartbreaking. It seems like the mother was trying everything she could think of.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/texts-from-mom-shot-dead-after-confronting-boyfriend?utm_term=.avnxwlgB7#.nv7jb6LEV

Yikes. I have an even worse impression of the mother now than I did before after reading the BuzzFeed article. What was she thinking using that type of inflammatory language with another young teen? Especially as the young girl also is a student at the school, which is a therapeutic and educational school for children with emotional and behavioral problems. It shows extremely poor judgement on the mom's part. Wow.

All of you sitting in judgment of these families and the actions they did or did not take are almost as bad as the shooter. You are sitting in your high horse with very, very little information judging and speculating and entertaining yourselves with your all-knowing superiority. You have not walked a mile in their shoes so you need to cut the judgment. You might not have killed them physically as the kid did, but in the aftermath you are assassinating their characters, especially the mom. You should be very, very, very ashamed of yourselves. Find your humanity and just shut up.

You either are close to this family or relate to this situation in some way, but as an outsider I can tell you that you sound really concerning and unhinged and need to ask yourself where this is coming from. Comparing these commenters in any way to that murderer and saying they are almost as bad is highly concerning on your part. Experienced parents know we get judged all the time and yes strangers will judge you if your child was banned from someone's house, you know he is unstable and somehow he ends up at that very house and murders. People will have questions and many concerns. For your own sake I suggest you take a breather from this thread.

I don’t know anyone involved nor am I unhinged. I’m simply appalled by the entitlement to judge that is on display here.