No difference? Really? Must be nice for you to be such a simpleton, distilling tough issues down to such simple "they are the same" calculations. Problem is you seem to be saying that the only reason someone might apply to the OOB lottery is out of safety concerns. For middle and high school that might be a significant factor, but I don't think there are significant questions over physical safety at DC elementaries. The reasoning used in assessing a local school is usually more nuanced than asking "is it safe?" And to answer your question, "scary" not truthful. And might I add stupid too? Again, get rid of OOB kids and you think you eliminate the perceived need for metal detectors? |
No. The PP who brought them up finds it 'scary' that there are metal detectors at Wilson. And going to Hardy means you might go to Wilson and be around scary people or things. Or something like that. |
To be more clear, PP is saying of more IB go to Hardy, there is less room for OOB black students at Hardy. She's suggesting that if there is no room for black students then the need for metal detectors would go away. |
Are you kidding? No metal detectors at Hardy! Previous number of 6th graders from Hyde is wrong. My son counted about 15, and I saw more than 10 being dropped in front of the school on the first day. |
NP here, yes, this is it. I am usually hesitant to call people racist on DCUM. Better to give people the benefit of the doubt. But there can be no doubt in this case. This is exactly what PP meant: the need for metal detectors at Wilson is due to the mostly black OOB population. People, we as a society have allowed the gun lobby to take things way way too far. As a result, metal detectors in schools are sadly very common and there's even an argument that they should be more universal for liability reasons. It's a statement on our culture, not a statement on a specific school or its students necessarily. |
So... how about let's agree to move on this latest derail -- and refocus this thread, which off-and-on has been a great source of examining the trends at Hardy & the OP did a service with his analysis.. |
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OP here. Best guess based on several years of data is that there are 44 in-boundary students in the current 7th grade. (That's IB, the less relevant measure, not feeder.) The class was about 37% IB last year. 45-50% IB (or feeder, more accurately) seems totally reasonable for his year's 6th grade class. (That's what the reported counts suggest.) the overall school is probably about 36-38% in-boundary this year. I think the school will be around 50% IB next year, with the incoming 6th grade cohort around 60% or more. |
Does a student who was an OOB student at a Hardy feeder, who goes on to Hardy, count as 'IB' to the people who are breathlessly watching these numbers?
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Yikes. Don't get this started again. ![]() |
No, they are technically not IB. They won't show up as IB. That's why feeder is the more relevant number. It is not reported however. |
Not really. OOB feeders opting in doesn't say much as presumably they don't have any other option for middle so they aren't "opting in", more like continuing down the best path available. IB rate tells more. |
...the only path that guarantees them access to the best non application/lottery high school and 2nd best non lottery middle. |
Principal Pride usually "report" the feeder #s when she does the rounds at the feeder PTA meetings and Hardy open houses. |