By the numbers: A dispassioned evaluation of Hardy (compared to Deal and Wilson)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Principal Pride offered something like 70 or 80 OOB lottery spots for 6th grade for the 2015-16 school year. In last year's lottery the number dropped to 25 spots offered in the initial lottery (lots were offered spots off of the waitlist later), so she was able to set the bar much lower with "Central's" permission. I think it's wrong to make schools commit to specific numbers of lottery spots in advance of a mid-December lottery launch. That is many months before IB/Feeder families have to submit enrollment paperwork, several months before school budgets are finalized. It seems to require a lot of reading of tea leaves. Open the lottery, don't specify how many spots are being offered by grade until the results are announced in April. That would allow principals the time to develop more accurate predictions for the following school year's enrollment.

But by looking at the link above it seems that her 25 number was off by a lot. 82 offers by August?!?! Her bar actually means nothing. It is just a random number she chooses?

The number was not random. All feeder schools' families considering Hardy were asked to fill out their intent forms last year around December. I would guess for our IB school half of those submitting the forms went with Deal (there were OOB at the school but their residence address was IB to Deal) or private independent / catholic schools. Also, 82 offers does not equal to 82 OOB spaces.

It shows there is process and thought to hold aside spaces in case there is bigger IB enrollment and then to fill the spaces after the first round of the lottery - which is basically all it shows. The 6th grade class is around 130 kids, reports are around 40-50 are IB/feeder. The point above was that Principal Pride needs to be able to balance the lottery with an unknown quantity of kids who will actually be attending from feeders (starting with the 'any possibility of intent to enroll' forms that are distributed to the feeder parents). [not next year, but year after, there will be a 5th feeder - Eaton].

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:went to the Hardy open house last week. 3 of the feeders have added a fifth grade class & one added another 1/2... and Eaton is coming. The overall DCPS enrollment for the coming years is bigger than the past. Deal is too overloaded. Bigger IB (and overall) Enrollment is Coming.

Assuming this is true, this is not great news for Wilson, which is packed to the gills already without more people coming in from Hardy.

Keep in mind that a lot of Deal students are IB for Hardy. When Hardy is considered equal that will stop

There are kids at Deal whose families really live in MD. How does that work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:went to the Hardy open house last week. 3 of the feeders have added a fifth grade class & one added another 1/2... and Eaton is coming. The overall DCPS enrollment for the coming years is bigger than the past. Deal is too overloaded. Bigger IB (and overall) Enrollment is Coming.

Assuming this is true, this is not great news for Wilson, which is packed to the gills already without more people coming in from Hardy.

Keep in mind that a lot of Deal students are IB for Hardy. When Hardy is considered equal that will stop

Deal is not supposed to be accepting OOB students. What does this mean? Are you referring to IB Hardy parents who falsify documents, use someone else's address, or rent a cheap efficiency apartment (in which they do not actually live) in order to get IB Deal status for their children's middle school years?

no, chill out. I am talking about families who live IB for Hardy and either lottery into a Deal feeder for 5th or rent out their house, live IB for Deal for the three years, and then move back home for high school whether it is Wilson or SWW or wherever. I don't know how many people overall do this but I know firsthand that some do and no-one will bother with that hassle after Hardy improves. I am betting it's already less common.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:went to the Hardy open house last week. 3 of the feeders have added a fifth grade class & one added another 1/2... and Eaton is coming. The overall DCPS enrollment for the coming years is bigger than the past. Deal is too overloaded. Bigger IB (and overall) Enrollment is Coming.

Assuming this is true, this is not great news for Wilson, which is packed to the gills already without more people coming in from Hardy.

Keep in mind that a lot of Deal students are IB for Hardy. When Hardy is considered equal that will stop

Deal is not supposed to be accepting OOB students. What does this mean? Are you referring to IB Hardy parents who falsify documents, use someone else's address, or rent a cheap efficiency apartment (in which they do not actually live) in order to get IB Deal status for their children's middle school years?

no, chill out. I am talking about families who live IB for Hardy and either lottery into a Deal feeder for 5th or rent out their house, live IB for Deal for the three years, and then move back home for high school whether it is Wilson or SWW or wherever. I don't know how many people overall do this but I know firsthand that some do and no-one will bother with that hassle after Hardy improves. I am betting it's already less common.

I've only ever heard of few/couple of these instances. It's a huge hassle on the families

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:went to the Hardy open house last week. 3 of the feeders have added a fifth grade class & one added another 1/2... and Eaton is coming. The overall DCPS enrollment for the coming years is bigger than the past. Deal is too overloaded. Bigger IB (and overall) Enrollment is Coming.

Assuming this is true, this is not great news for Wilson, which is packed to the gills already without more people coming in from Hardy.

Keep in mind that a lot of Deal students are IB for Hardy. When Hardy is considered equal that will stop

There are kids at Deal whose families really live in MD. How does that work?

This.