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When was he the world’s most popular bachelor?! William was for sure, in the late nineties / early aughts. Man he was hot. If memory serves, Henry was with that Chelsea woman and after that he was sort of a joke (Nazi costume, the party in Vegas that got leaked, etc.) Meghan was able to snap him up precisely because he wasn’t seen as a real catch (and that’s not a knock on Meghan, she’s gorgeous and had a better chance than any other American!) |
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prince-harry-named-the-worlds-most-eligible-bachelor/
Once his brother was engaged, that sort of attention moved to Harry. |
Both Harry and William had difficulty getting British girls in their childhood social circles to date them, because no one wanted to deal with all of this. It makes sense that both ended up with social climbers. |
They “worked” for like a minute. I was actually jazzed about Meghan. Watched the whole wedding, loved the RF getting a stick in the eye from an American of color. Thought the wedding was terrific although the dress was underwhelming. Their tone deafness subsequently is what has been exhausting. |
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I didn't read the 29 pages of comments, just here to say it is really sickening to see the way so many people love to hate this beautiful and talented biracial American woman who is no more messed up than any other celebrity the same people idolize.
I guess there is just some really deep seated racism, even if unconscious, in all these people who have such a knee jerk negative reaction to a black woman marrying into the British royal family and choosing her own independent path. But hey, never mind all that! Let's get ready for the No Kings rallies this weekend! |
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I agree they were hard working. They were given good patronages and events to attend. They were given a lovely home in Windsor after they said they didn’t want a house in KP like W&K had (at that time.)
And then it just…blew up. I still don’t fully understand why because the reasons they stated in their initial public letter don’t make any sense. If they wanted to be working royals, they were. If they didn’t want to be, Harry could have done something quasi-military like being an air ambulance pilot like William and they could have lived away from London. There were so many things they could have tried before they did what they did. It was just so abrupt, all-or-nothing, burn-it-down. |
I think there’s a different reason why so many people find H&M off-putting. First: nobody idolizes celebrities. Even A listers are recognized and can make money for their films or music, but the masses don’t obsess over them. And most A list celebs try really hard to avoid being over-exposed—and similarly try to avoid being seen as too fancy or out of touch. Next: there are plenty of legit A list celebs (and lesser status celebs) who aren’t white—and they are iconic and beloved. Why? Beyond their talent, they are just plain charismatic and likeable. That’s the winning ticket. It’s earned. And it can’t be taught or bought. You have it or you don’t. Third: nobody likes people who come from a privileged background or flaunt fancy posh nonsense. Americans root for the underdog. Moreover, and this is key: nobody likes a whiner. Victim mentality simply isn’t popular. I’m sure everyone has heard Julia Roberts tell the story about how she and all the other actors were openly complaining about the heat and exhaustion on set while filming Steel Magnolias. She said Dolly was the only one who never complained and always remained upbeat with a smile. Dolly apparently commented that she had always dreamed of performing, recognized how blessed she was to be there, and would never ever complain about such an amazing opportunity. And that’s why Dolly is universally adored…and why others have been labeled divas. H is the poster child for the guy born with a silver spoon in his mouth and M is the poster child for the gal who tries way too hard to impress others for her own personal gain. They lack the “it” factor and simply cannot make fetch happen. It has nothing to do with race. They made some bad choices and should not have played the victim card. Can you think of anyone who is universally adored who relied on whining about their victimhood for years? I can’t. Quite the opposite: most successful people who are adored downplay the adversity. People flock to the light; the positive people are the winners. But the positivity must be authentic. Everyone sees through heavily curated happiness…particularly when the person is seeking to monetize it. Think about Martha Stewart. Once the world realized she was a bit$&, she was no longer adored. But people still reluctantly acknowledged her talent…which was undeniable. Nonetheless, the attention she received was mostly from haters. But M is nowhere near Martha. |
Sure you didn't. |
Hi there Ms Independent path. The actual deal with Meghan is that she is a beautiful and talented biracial American woman who married into the British royal family and is living off of her husband’s name/wealth more than she is carving her independent path. Sure you can cry racial discrimination, but she is building her self as a “focus on the family” and live off of my husbands name more than she is being an independent woman. She isn’t worrying about health insurance and getting food on the table, she is worrying if her monogram has enough curls in it. That money doesn’t all come from her. She isn’t independent. |
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Since there is no other place to discuss...
The Royal Family made two mistakes - kicking out Harry and Meghan and downsizing the Royal Family. Today's balcony appearance during Trooping the Colour was so underwhelming. Unfortunately, the majority of adults on the balcony just aren't good looking. The ones that are good looking have no interesting style and charisma. Even the cute kids just stand there like mini-adults (Louis's antics don't seem to be as much as he gets older). Part of the cuteness is watching them interacting with their similarly aged cousins. Say what you will about Meghan and Harry, but they had all the charisma in that family (IMO, that's the bigger reason they were pushed aside and not race). Meghan was good looking and had better style. Balcony appearances with just KC, Camilla, Edward, Sophie (not even their kids anymore!), Anne and her husband, W&K and the kids just aren't interesting. If there can't be Harry and Meghan, at least bring back all those cousins the public only sees once or twice a year at these events. Show the Tindalls and their kids, Beatrice and Eugenie and their families. |
Excellent analysis. I agree-- they lack the "it" factor. In part, because they are total downers and make ridiculous complaints. "The ceiling on my cottage at Kensington Palace was too low. My parking space was too far and I had to carry my own groceries." It's like reading The Onion. |
Yes, I agree I would at least like to see Beatrice & Eugenie. As non-official working royals, they certainly put in their dues and pull their weight. At least reward them for their loyalty and their respect for the British Royal Family. Also, Edward's kids. I think the public is over H&M due to all their trashing of the BRF every chance they get, with little to prove it. And the Royals are just grey rocking them, so there is no push back against H&M's questionable claims. 40 yo Harry - "my father has cut me off financially" - duh, either stay as a working Royal or make your own money as a middle-aged adult. |
+1 No matter where you are in life, people don't want to hear from whiners. Most people admire and are drawn to those who stay positive, work hard, are genuinely friendly and kind, and don't play the victim card. |
DP. But this is literally true of everyone who marries into this family and they don’t get endless hate. Like Sophie was on camera literally trying to trade on her husbands family and you never hear about that. Kate has never had a real job and her family is broke. Camilla has basically had Charles paying her bills before they were even married after her divorce. Fergie isn’t even married to Andrew anymore and still relies on him to house her. Etc. but only one of these married in bums inspires that long hate filled threads like this. |