APS Holiday 6/6

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.

Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.

I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.

Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.

That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.

I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.

Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.

I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.

Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.

That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.

I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is any other district considering this? Why is APS doing this?

*EquItY*

Even Fairfax isn’t doing it. Not sure who decided to die on this hill at APS.

Syphax did. They wanted another paid holiday. But they didn’t get it this time.

No I think this is more about proving how progressive we are, rebuking Trump, getting DEI street cred. Operational efficiency was not mentioned so it wasn’t staff requesting off. They did not expect a fight which is why it wasn’t going to go up for a vote initially

These folks are detached from reality not understanding this would be a big deal. Which is not great.

Agreed. They moved this last minute to a no–consent item? Initially Duran (?) was just going to have this quietly approved?

They really have no idea what happens in school buildings, do they? They really thought they could cancel school 2 weeks before the end of the year without cancelling a ton of events that are important to people.

Reminds me of when we had a snow storm on a Thursday so they went ahead and closed school buildings all weekend. Not a single person at Syphax considered that would mean cancelling sports, a school play, cultural school, etc.

This is exactly why we need someone who has been a school employee on the school board. Anyone from janitor to principal can tell you how packed the last few weeks of school are.

+1

Dems messed up again.

Fck off

I truly don’t understand this response. The Dems had a candidate who is not only extremely liberal, but is a parent, educator, and works extremely closely with teachers in the school board already. But they went with the person who was apparently “easier to work with“.

Easier to work with = won’t address many of the glaring issues that effect staff and students.

It's what a popularity contest gets you. I would put money of the fact that JP would never abstain from a vote. She's tough as nails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.

Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.

I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.

Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.

That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.

I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)

I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.

Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.

I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.

Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.

That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.

I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)

I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.

Have you worked in a school and seen what schedules are like the last 6 weeks of school with state testing etc?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.

Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.

I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.

Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.

That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.

I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)

I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.

Does this holiday require kids to miss school though? I know people who celebrate and they told me they have some flexibility with which prayers to attend. I recognize people may oberve differently but what is required to mark this holiday?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why couldn't they figure out the date of a holiday in advance? This is crazy

Eid dates shift because the Islamic calendar is a lunar calendar, meaning it is based on the cycles of the moon. It was supposed to be observed Saturday, but the date/sighting of the most recent new moon changed it to Friday. That being said- closing and cancelling all of these end of year activities for a small percentage of the school community is absurd.

If you want a multicultural society, and think diversity is a strength then you have to be comfortable getting a little uncomfortable.

Embrace change.

It isn't 1955 anymore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why couldn't they figure out the date of a holiday in advance? This is crazy

Eid dates shift because the Islamic calendar is a lunar calendar, meaning it is based on the cycles of the moon. It was supposed to be observed Saturday, but the date/sighting of the most recent new moon changed it to Friday. That being said- closing and cancelling all of these end of year activities for a small percentage of the school community is absurd.

If you want a multicultural society, and think diversity is a strength then you have to be comfortable getting a little uncomfortable.

Embrace change.

It isn't 1955 anymore.

People are part of various communities- in this case, religion and school. We are all going to have to compromise and that may mean we understand we may have to choose between our school community and our religious community from time to time. Such is life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.

Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.

I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.

Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.

That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.

I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)

I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.

APS needs to get rid of all the religious holidays. But then have clear notices on calendars that events can't be scheduled on those days to respect people observing them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.

Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.

I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.

Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.

That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.

I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)

I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.

APS needs to get rid of all the religious holidays. But then have clear notices on calendars that events can't be scheduled on those days to respect people observing them.

So people say this but what would happen if we moved winter break to January and uncoupled it from Christmas. If kids had to go to school on Christmas eve. People would be outraged.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.

Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.

I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.

Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.

That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.

I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)

I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.

APS needs to get rid of all the religious holidays. But then have clear notices on calendars that events can't be scheduled on those days to respect people observing them.

So people say this but what would happen if we moved winter break to January and uncoupled it from Christmas. If kids had to go to school on Christmas eve. People would be outraged.

I'd say we live in a majority christian nation and the norm is that we have a winter break from around christmas eve until after new year's day. I've also lived in countries that do not observe Christmas and have used leave on Christmas and kept kids home from school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.

Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.

I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.

Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.

That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.

I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)

I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.

APS needs to get rid of all the religious holidays. But then have clear notices on calendars that events can't be scheduled on those days to respect people observing them.

So people say this but what would happen if we moved winter break to January and uncoupled it from Christmas. If kids had to go to school on Christmas eve. People would be outraged.

No they really wouldn’t. Christmas could be an excused absence day like everything else could be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.

Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.

I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.

Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.

That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.

I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)

I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.

APS needs to get rid of all the religious holidays. But then have clear notices on calendars that events can't be scheduled on those days to respect people observing them.

So people say this but what would happen if we moved winter break to January and uncoupled it from Christmas. If kids had to go to school on Christmas eve. People would be outraged.

No they really wouldn’t. Christmas could be an excused absence day like everything else could be.

+1 just follow OPM then APS doesn’t have to make the decision pass the buck, make them the bad guys

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is completely ridiculous. Also it means they are going below required days to add a new last minute holiday. Fccps definitely got this one right when they removed all religious holidays from the calendar. Fccps also has the last day of school on June 7th rather than going until June 18th.

At this point religious holidays make up an entire week of summer we have lost over the last few years.

Summer vacation is indeed shorter by a couple weeks. But the school year always ended in mid to late June, back when school started after Labor Day just a few short years ago. Adding more holidays has further shrunk summer vacation, since school now starts before labor day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.

Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.

I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.

Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.

That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.

I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)

I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.

Does this holiday require kids to miss school though? I know people who celebrate and they told me they have some flexibility with which prayers to attend. I recognize people may oberve differently but what is required to mark this holiday?

This is my point. Observing a religious holiday does NOT require anyone to miss a full day of school. Do we shut everything down for Ash Wednesday? No, people go to mass before or after school/work or on their lunch break, etc. Eid al-Adha does not have a particular time-sensitive requirement. Eid al-Fitr does (breaking the fast) but that is at sundown so after the school day ends.