RFKjr Tapped to Head HHS

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Anonymous wrote:National Review: pro-abortion RFK Jr. is a disastrous pick

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/pro-abortion-rfk-jr-is-a-disastrous-hhs-pick/


Also NY Post editorial board:

https://nypost.com/2024/11/14/opinion/putting-rfk-jr-in-charge-of-health-breaks-the-first-rule-of-medicine/



Great editorial! Rips that loon to shreds.
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Anonymous wrote:RFK is for vaccines if properly tested... silence

Big pharma has control over the Democrats... silence

RFK will Make America Healthy Again.... UGGHHH!


Vaccines are properly tested. That's what anti vax nitwits don't understand. Or they do understand it and refuse to believe it because the data show vaccines are overwhelmingly safe and effective. Vaccine are tested in clinical trials. They even publish the results publicly in peer reviewed journals.

So many idiots on the Internet can't understand it and will just say 'corruption!!!' when the trial data don't go their way.


DP. What is considered "proper" is widely debated. Many of us skeptics would like vaccines to be tested against inert placebos, instead of using other vaccines as a "control." We also are inherently suspicious of the "vaccine court" and its impartiality.

Personally, I won't trust vaccines until we get a longitudinal study with the current vax schedule, an older vax schedule and an unvaccinated control group. I suspect vaccine utility peaked decades ago, but no one will touch this with a 10-foot pole.


Please describe a clinical trial testing a vaccine against a placebo. Do you give 500 children the vaccine, 500 get the placebo, and expose them all to the disease and see which ones survive? I’m genuinely interested in your description of this trial.



lol. Clearly the PP is a clinician and understands the ethics…..


What a nutcase.


These circular "ethics" are what ultimately the vaccinators have to hid behind. It would be unethical to not give kids them, because we know they work so well even though we've never proven them to be a net positive. Please ignore the visible decline in children's health over the years.

Someday, somewhere someone is going to put vaccines to a real test. It's only a matter of time.


You know ALL medical tests - medicine, procedures, surgeries, vaccines, etc - are compared to the current best practice, not nothing. Do you think when they develop a new antibiotic that they just let a bunch of people die of strep throat to be the control group? And what would be the point of comparing the control to nothing - you want to make sure if it's better (or at least as good, or with fewer side effects, etc, etc) than what we have now.
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Let’s END the nonsensical arguments about vaccine approval here is the procedures that all vaccines must go through:

In the United States, vaccines must go through a rigorous process of development, testing, and review before they can be approved or authorized by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). The standard procedure includes the following steps:

1. Preclinical Research

• Laboratory and Animal Testing: Researchers test the vaccine candidate in cells and animals to evaluate its safety and potential efficacy.
• Objective: Determine whether the vaccine triggers an immune response and whether it is safe enough for human trials.

2. Investigational New Drug (IND) Application

• Before starting clinical trials in humans, vaccine developers submit an IND application to the FDA.
• The application includes preclinical data, manufacturing details, and the proposed clinical trial plan.
• FDA reviews the IND to ensure the vaccine is safe to test in humans.

3. Clinical Trials

Phase 1: Safety and Dosage

• Participants: A small group (20–100) of healthy volunteers.
• Focus: Assess the safety of the vaccine, determine appropriate dosage, and evaluate the immune response.

Phase 2: Expanded Safety and Immunogenicity

• Participants: Hundreds of people, including those from groups intended to receive the vaccine.
• Focus: Refine the dosage, continue safety monitoring, and further assess the immune response.

Phase 3: Efficacy and Safety in Large Populations

• Participants: Thousands to tens of thousands of volunteers.
• Focus: Determine the vaccine’s effectiveness in preventing the targeted disease and continue safety monitoring.

4. Biologics License Application (BLA)

• After successful clinical trials, the developer submits a BLA to the FDA.
• The BLA includes all data from preclinical and clinical studies, along with manufacturing and labeling information.
• FDA experts review the BLA to determine if the vaccine is safe, effective, and produced to high-quality standards.

5. Advisory Committee Review

• The FDA often convenes the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC), a panel of independent experts, to review the data and provide recommendations.

6. FDA Decision

• Approval: If the vaccine meets all safety, efficacy, and quality standards, the FDA approves it.
• Emergency Use Authorization (EUA): In urgent public health situations, the FDA may issue an EUA to allow temporary use of a vaccine based on preliminary data.

7. Post-Market Surveillance

• Phase 4 Studies: Additional studies to monitor long-term safety and efficacy.
• VAERS: The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System collects and analyzes reports of side effects.
• Continuous Monitoring: Ongoing reviews of manufacturing processes and adverse event data.

This process ensures vaccines are both safe and effective for public use.
Anonymous
Must all vaccines go through the above process?

Yes, all vaccines intended for use in the United States must go through a rigorous FDA process to ensure safety, efficacy, and quality. However, there are some variations depending on the situation:

1. Standard Approval Process

• Most vaccines go through the full process, including preclinical research, clinical trials (Phases 1–3), and FDA review.
• This applies to vaccines developed for non-urgent public health needs.

2. Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)

• In public health emergencies (e.g., pandemics), the FDA may grant an EUA to allow temporary use of a vaccine before full approval.
• To receive an EUA, vaccine developers must provide substantial evidence from clinical trials showing that the vaccine is likely effective and that its benefits outweigh potential risks.
• Even under an EUA, vaccines must undergo preclinical studies, clinical trials, and FDA review of safety and efficacy data.

3. Accelerated or Priority Review

• The FDA can expedite the review process for vaccines addressing critical public health issues (e.g., fast-tracking or priority review).
• This doesn’t skip steps but speeds up the timeline by allocating more resources to the review process.

4. Exceptions for Existing Platforms

• Vaccines based on well-studied platforms (e.g., those using technologies already approved for other vaccines) may require fewer initial studies, as long as the safety and efficacy of the platform are well-documented.
• Even in these cases, clinical trials and a thorough review are still mandatory.

5. Post-Market Requirements

• For all vaccines, post-market surveillance is essential, whether the vaccine is fully approved or authorized under an EUA. The FDA requires continued data collection to monitor long-term safety and effectiveness.

No vaccine can bypass the core requirements for ensuring safety and efficacy, though the timeline and specific steps may be adjusted in emergencies or for certain situations.
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lol
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^ Very helpful but sadly won't have any impact on terminally online conspiracy theorists who can't read more than a Tweet.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Trust the science who never did "long term" testing on covid... silence

Autism diagnosed from 1 in 1,000 births before the 74 vaccines now at 1 in 34 births.... silence

RFK wants transparent and longer than 6 month testing frlor vaccines... UGGGHHHH!


You keep posting these three point “…..uggggghh” comments. You are not cute. Please just write a coherent comment.


I would be more coherent if the overlord hasnt blocked certain words I've used in the past. Its got to be at least 2 dozen words by now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Lol. The right-leaning British tabloid, the Daily Mail, seems to be trying to stir sh**t up between Trump and RFK by reporting negative things RFK Jr has said about Trump's diet. We also get some fun insights on what is serve on the Trump campaign airplane. This will irritate Trump.

During an interview with podcaster Joe Polish RFK Jr said: 'The stuff that he (Trump) eats is really, like, bad. 'Campaign food is always bad, but the food that goes onto that airplane is like just poison. You have a choice between—you don’t have the choice, you’re either given KFC or Big Macs. 'That’s when you’re lucky and then the rest of the stuff I consider kind of inedible.'

The Daily Beast reported that the former Democrat also revealed that a close friend of Trump's claimed to have never seen the billionaire drink water. It has been widely reported that Trump lives off of Diet Coke.


What's "lol" about this? The cable news oligarch behind these print outlets is in bed with Big Pharma and the global food/bev megacorps pushing cancer-causing slop on American cattle, I mean consumers.
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Anonymous wrote:OOF!

Assuming he gets cofirmed (a BIG if IMHO), he will be bad for the healthcare institutions of this country.


I don't think he's getting confirmed and think Trump thinks this too. He's just going through the motions to satisfy the deal for his dropping out of the race and get rid of his crazy ass.

Why won’t he get confirmed? GOP comfortably has the senate.


You just need 4 moderate to defect.

Even McConnell is very pro vaccine.

Then RFK Jr will just be an acting.
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Anonymous wrote:OOF!

Assuming he gets cofirmed (a BIG if IMHO), he will be bad for the healthcare institutions of this country.


I don't think he's getting confirmed and think Trump thinks this too. He's just going through the motions to satisfy the deal for his dropping out of the race and get rid of his crazy ass.

Why won’t he get confirmed? GOP comfortably has the senate.


You just need 4 moderate to defect.

Even McConnell is very pro vaccine.

Then RFK Jr will just be an acting.


It will come down to who is up for reelection in 2026.
Anonymous
The memes are so damn funny. Zoomers and millennials know this country has become an unhealthy, sick joke led around by Big Pharma and parasitic megacorps pushing poisonous slop on us.

Anonymous
It’s true! We are a disgusting sloppy, crap eating drug using mess of a country. I live RFK’s ideas but no way will he actually be able to change anything if he’s even confirmed. The lobby is too big and the damage is too deep.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s true! We are a disgusting sloppy, crap eating drug using mess of a country. I live RFK’s ideas but no way will he actually be able to change anything if he’s even confirmed. The lobby is too big and the damage is too deep.


+1 people could stop eating like crap this very second and start doing light exercise but they won’t. Im more concerned about drug abuse and mental health more than anything and I hope he focuses on that more than the food.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s true! We are a disgusting sloppy, crap eating drug using mess of a country. I live RFK’s ideas but no way will he actually be able to change anything if he’s even confirmed. The lobby is too big and the damage is too deep.


...so why bother trying? You're blackpilled.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s true! We are a disgusting sloppy, crap eating drug using mess of a country. I live RFK’s ideas but no way will he actually be able to change anything if he’s even confirmed. The lobby is too big and the damage is too deep.


+1 people could stop eating like crap this very second and start doing light exercise but they won’t. Im more concerned about drug abuse and mental health more than anything and I hope he focuses on that more than the food.


Sure they could, but most people have never had an independent thought in their lives. So you have to limit their choices between only healthy options.
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