S/o What the f do you all want from doctors?

[Anonymous]

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You know what changing it looks like? Concierge medicine. That works like gangbusters.

No no no. These people DESERVE all the benefits of concierge medicine without paying for it!

Are you really saying that punctuality is a benefit of concierge medicine, not something that should be expected from, and by, everyone?

And being treated with kindness and respect. I’d like to think we all deserve that, not just the people who can afford concierge medicine.

You don’t need a concierge practice for that. You just need a new doctor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Doctors have reasons they are late, and so do patients. You should not assume yours are valid and the patient’s are not.

At least have your office call people in advance when you know you are running way late. And for God’s sake apologize to those who came on time and have been waiting for a half hour or more . And if you are going to charge those who are delayed, you need to pay your waiting patients when you are delayed. You are really not the only busy, important person in this equation, whose time has value.

Do you want an apology, or do you want an explanation?

Doctor's reasons for being late are usually other patients, not their own reason. Are the other patients not as valid as you?

You could factor such delays into your schedule, especially since you claim they are common and to be expected. Instead you book us back to back, because you don’t want to lose a dime of time. So we lose time (and often money).

Do you know any places where you can get in to see your primary doctor without an inordinately long wait? Just curious. Please share the name, if so.

Sure. One Medical.

I can call today with an acute concern and guarantee to be seen today by my MD, not another MD, or an NP or PA?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doctors have reasons they are late, and so do patients. You should not assume yours are valid and the patient’s are not.

At least have your office call people in advance when you know you are running way late. And for God’s sake apologize to those who came on time and have been waiting for a half hour or more . And if you are going to charge those who are delayed, you need to pay your waiting patients when you are delayed. You are really not the only busy, important person in this equation, whose time has value.

Do you want an apology, or do you want an explanation?

Doctor's reasons for being late are usually other patients, not their own reason. Are the other patients not as valid as you?

You could factor such delays into your schedule, especially since you claim they are common and to be expected. Instead you book us back to back, because you don’t want to lose a dime of time. So we lose time (and often money).

Do you know any places where you can get in to see your primary doctor without an inordinately long wait? Just curious. Please share the name, if so.

Sure. One Medical.

I can call today with an acute concern and guarantee to be seen today by my MD, not another MD, or an NP or PA?

But what’s the acute concern? If it’s something like a possible infection, they’re not going to waste the MD’s time when an NP or PA can handle it.

[Anonymous]

Oh. So you're saying "no," then. Right.

[Anonymous]

You could factor such delays into your schedule, especially since you claim they are common and to be expected. Instead you book us back to back, because you don’t want to lose a dime of time. So we lose time (and often money).

^^Apparently not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh. So you're saying "no," then. Right.

Sorry I was a NP. I wasn’t the one who recommended One Medical. Maybe you can see your dr.

I was just trying to make the point that I think a lot of people have unrealistic expectations when it comes to seeing their doctor. No physician is going to squeeze you in same day because you think your ingrown toenail is infected. Or you think you have strep, or Covid. They’re going to let someone else handle that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh. So you're saying "no," then. Right.

Sorry I was a NP. I wasn’t the one who recommended One Medical. Maybe you can see your dr.

I was just trying to make the point that I think a lot of people have unrealistic expectations when it comes to seeing their doctor. No physician is going to squeeze you in same day because you think your ingrown toenail is infected. Or you think you have strep, or Covid. They’re going to let someone else handle that.

But people on this thread are pretty clear that if a medical practice wanted to, they could just leave enough open spaces so that anyone who wanted to talk to their own doctor could. It's just greed and a godlike ego that keeps them from siing patients that day. Right?

[Anonymous]

"seeing patients"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh. So you're saying "no," then. Right.

Sorry I was a NP. I wasn’t the one who recommended One Medical. Maybe you can see your dr.

I was just trying to make the point that I think a lot of people have unrealistic expectations when it comes to seeing their doctor. No physician is going to squeeze you in same day because you think your ingrown toenail is infected. Or you think you have strep, or Covid. They’re going to let someone else handle that.

But people on this thread are pretty clear that if a medical practice wanted to, they could just leave enough open spaces so that anyone who wanted to talk to their own doctor could. It's just greed and a godlike ego that keeps them from siing patients that day. Right?

Exactly. You can’t have a rational conversation with people who think like that. It’s like banging your head against a brick wall. They deserve to be seen when they want without paying a premium for that privilege. End of story.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doctors have reasons they are late, and so do patients. You should not assume yours are valid and the patient’s are not.

At least have your office call people in advance when you know you are running way late. And for God’s sake apologize to those who came on time and have been waiting for a half hour or more . And if you are going to charge those who are delayed, you need to pay your waiting patients when you are delayed. You are really not the only busy, important person in this equation, whose time has value.

Do you want an apology, or do you want an explanation?

Doctor's reasons for being late are usually other patients, not their own reason. Are the other patients not as valid as you?

You could factor such delays into your schedule, especially since you claim they are common and to be expected. Instead you book us back to back, because you don’t want to lose a dime of time. So we lose time (and often money).

Do you know any places where you can get in to see your primary doctor without an inordinately long wait? Just curious. Please share the name, if so.

Sure. One Medical.

I can call today with an acute concern and guarantee to be seen today by my MD, not another MD, or an NP or PA?

But what’s the acute concern? If it’s something like a possible infection, they’re not going to waste the MD’s time when an NP or PA can handle it.

They're not going to waste the doctor's time on something that might give you sepsis. What is the doctor focusing on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh. So you're saying "no," then. Right.

Sorry I was a NP. I wasn’t the one who recommended One Medical. Maybe you can see your dr.

I was just trying to make the point that I think a lot of people have unrealistic expectations when it comes to seeing their doctor. No physician is going to squeeze you in same day because you think your ingrown toenail is infected. Or you think you have strep, or Covid. They’re going to let someone else handle that.

But people on this thread are pretty clear that if a medical practice wanted to, they could just leave enough open spaces so that anyone who wanted to talk to their own doctor could. It's just greed and a godlike ego that keeps them from siing patients that day. Right?

Exactly. You can’t have a rational conversation with people who think like that. It’s like banging your head against a brick wall. They deserve to be seen when they want without paying a premium for that privilege. End of story.

Why should people have to pay a premium to promptly see a doctor?

I just don’t get the tone of this thread. “This is the way it is. Doctors have it hard. So suck it up, be quiet, and be grateful for what we give you.”

[Anonymous]

It seems like

"This system isn't working for anyone, and patients are beyond pissed while doctors are burning out under it right and left and can't seem to fix it from within, no matter how much patients yell at them."

looks exactly like

"This is the way it is. Doctors have it hard. So suck it up, be quiet, and be grateful for what we give you."

to some people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doctors have reasons they are late, and so do patients. You should not assume yours are valid and the patient’s are not.

At least have your office call people in advance when you know you are running way late. And for God’s sake apologize to those who came on time and have been waiting for a half hour or more . And if you are going to charge those who are delayed, you need to pay your waiting patients when you are delayed. You are really not the only busy, important person in this equation, whose time has value.

Do you want an apology, or do you want an explanation?

Doctor's reasons for being late are usually other patients, not their own reason. Are the other patients not as valid as you?

You could factor such delays into your schedule, especially since you claim they are common and to be expected. Instead you book us back to back, because you don’t want to lose a dime of time. So we lose time (and often money).

Do you know any places where you can get in to see your primary doctor without an inordinately long wait? Just curious. Please share the name, if so.

Sure. One Medical.

I can call today with an acute concern and guarantee to be seen today by my MD, not another MD, or an NP or PA?

But what’s the acute concern? If it’s something like a possible infection, they’re not going to waste the MD’s time when an NP or PA can handle it.

They're not going to waste the doctor's time on something that might give you sepsis. What is the doctor focusing on?

Do you know what the chances are that an ingrown toenail infection is going to cause you to become septic? It is infinitesimally small.

Again, here is the problem. People who have no scientific/medical knowledge demanding that they see an Md and no one else because they may become septic from a small localized infection. It’s just not a realistic expectation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
It seems like

"This system isn't working for anyone, and patients are beyond pissed while doctors are burning out under it right and left and can't seem to fix it from within, no matter how much patients yell at them."

looks exactly like

"This is the way it is. Doctors have it hard. So suck it up, be quiet, and be grateful for what we give you."

to some people.

You say the system isn’t working for anyone. It’s working just fine for me. I don’t mind waiting. I don’t mind seeing an NP or a PA. And I don’t need a doctor to spend time with me holding my hand. I’m there for their expertise - not emotional support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
It seems like

"This system isn't working for anyone, and patients are beyond pissed while doctors are burning out under it right and left and can't seem to fix it from within, no matter how much patients yell at them."

looks exactly like

"This is the way it is. Doctors have it hard. So suck it up, be quiet, and be grateful for what we give you."

to some people.

Look, I’m a teacher. I get it. We’re crashing and burning in a failing system, too. Last time I commented on DCUM about the challenges we face, I received very little sympathy.

Teachers’ tones don’t translate well on DCUM, and parents can perceive our frustrations as insulting. I absolutely see why that is the case. In a similar manner, the tone of this thread is rather condescending toward patients. Things may be bleak in your profession, and so you have to accept that has an impact on patients’ perceptions.