Cell phone ban in schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the common refrain - parents know best - has caused a lot of damage. There are so many clueless and dumb parents and letting them rule the roost is a big mistake.
All the experts say it is time to get cell phones out of schools. Why is MCPS not listening to them

I do not think parents rule at MCPS at all. If that were the case, the Ethiopian/Muslim parents who were protesting the removal of the ELA LGBT opt-out would have gotten their way. Same thing for the MVA, which was cancelled despite those parents being very vocal about that not being their desired outcome.

Are there individual parents who make noise and are inconvenient? Sure. But parents have very weak and limited power in MCPS.

The cell phone issue has far more to do with inept, lazy admin who don't want to do their job or get their hands dirty with enforcing the cell phone policy. Some of that is because many admin lack communication, diplomacy and decision making skills that are required to build the trust and consensus that is required to make a cell phone policy ban actually work. And MCPS's top brass refuses to recognize this competence gap and just keeps pushing the problem down to school-based leadership, regardless of how well school-based leadership implements or doesn't implement these policies.

Our current failed state with phones in schools is due to the ongoing crisis of leadership in MCPS, not parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the common refrain - parents know best - has caused a lot of damage. There are so many clueless and dumb parents and letting them rule the roost is a big mistake.
All the experts say it is time to get cell phones out of schools. Why is MCPS not listening to them

I do not think parents rule at MCPS at all. If that were the case, the Ethiopian/Muslim parents who were protesting the removal of the ELA LGBT opt-out would have gotten their way. Same thing for the MVA, which was cancelled despite those parents being very vocal about that not being their desired outcome.

Are there individual parents who make noise and are inconvenient? Sure. But parents have very weak and limited power in MCPS.

The cell phone issue has far more to do with inept, lazy admin who don't want to do their job or get their hands dirty with enforcing the cell phone policy. Some of that is because many admin lack communication, diplomacy and decision making skills that are required to build the trust and consensus that is required to make a cell phone policy ban actually work. And MCPS's top brass refuses to recognize this competence gap and just keeps pushing the problem down to school-based leadership, regardless of how well school-based leadership implements or doesn't implement these policies.

Our current failed state with phones in schools is due to the ongoing crisis of leadership in MCPS, not parents.

This is a good point. You changed my mind.

[Anonymous]

Cell phone bans should not be on a school by school basis. It should be a district wide policy that is consistently applied

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cell phone bans should not be on a school by school basis. It should be a district wide policy that is consistently applied

This is what I am explaining to you: There is a district wide policy. It's here: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/elementary-schools/t-w/wyngatees/cog-ra---personal-mobile-devices-regulation-for-mcps-students.pdf

Enforcement of this policy is left up to individual schools to customize or enforce. Central office is hands off. So some schools that have strong principals are managing the cell phone policy bans better than others.

As another poster said, it's a states' rights kind of thing, hence the inconsistency. Couple this variability by school with weak leadership and you get the current failed state.

[Anonymous]

Admin always have the power to put all the blame on the teachers a d take no responsibility. They will write it up in you evaluations and say the teacher has no control over their class and can nnot manage students properly. Admin are scumbags to teachers and i wish we could sue them for trying to ruin our careers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax public schools are rolling in a pilot program at several middle and high schools to lock phones up in yonder pouches during the school day. Why is MCPS always the last school district to do anything? Why do we always sit on our ass and say nothing can be done?
Exact same situation with school start times.

They settled school start times a few years ago and came up with the best possible compromise.

This again? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the common refrain - parents know best - has caused a lot of damage. There are so many clueless and dumb parents and letting them rule the roost is a big mistake.
All the experts say it is time to get cell phones out of schools. Why is MCPS not listening to them

I do not think parents rule at MCPS at all. If that were the case, the Ethiopian/Muslim parents who were protesting the removal of the ELA LGBT opt-out would have gotten their way. Same thing for the MVA, which was cancelled despite those parents being very vocal about that not being their desired outcome.

Are there individual parents who make noise and are inconvenient? Sure. But parents have very weak and limited power in MCPS.

The cell phone issue has far more to do with inept, lazy admin who don't want to do their job or get their hands dirty with enforcing the cell phone policy. Some of that is because many admin lack communication, diplomacy and decision making skills that are required to build the trust and consensus that is required to make a cell phone policy ban actually work. And MCPS's top brass refuses to recognize this competence gap and just keeps pushing the problem down to school-based leadership, regardless of how well school-based leadership implements or doesn't implement these policies.

Our current failed state with phones in schools is due to the ongoing crisis of leadership in MCPS, not parents.

I for one. I'm glad that mcps will not heed parents pushing their bigotry on children.

Further, the cell phone issues i
Are one of lazy inept parenting not administration..

[Anonymous]

I'm so glad this and school start times aren't things the board is considering and just the fantasies of a few crazies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the common refrain - parents know best - has caused a lot of damage. There are so many clueless and dumb parents and letting them rule the roost is a big mistake.
All the experts say it is time to get cell phones out of schools. Why is MCPS not listening to them

I do not think parents rule at MCPS at all. If that were the case, the Ethiopian/Muslim parents who were protesting the removal of the ELA LGBT opt-out would have gotten their way. Same thing for the MVA, which was cancelled despite those parents being very vocal about that not being their desired outcome.

Are there individual parents who make noise and are inconvenient? Sure. But parents have very weak and limited power in MCPS.

The cell phone issue has far more to do with inept, lazy admin who don't want to do their job or get their hands dirty with enforcing the cell phone policy. Some of that is because many admin lack communication, diplomacy and decision making skills that are required to build the trust and consensus that is required to make a cell phone policy ban actually work. And MCPS's top brass refuses to recognize this competence gap and just keeps pushing the problem down to school-based leadership, regardless of how well school-based leadership implements or doesn't implement these policies.

Our current failed state with phones in schools is due to the ongoing crisis of leadership in MCPS, not parents.

The BOE needs to go. However, parents are the ones who decide about pone usage and parents can choose not to send a phone with their kids. I think it interesting the most vocal send their kids with phones to school. If you are against it don't give your kid one. Simple. In less MCPS puts in pay phones, for us, we will send a phone home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the common refrain - parents know best - has caused a lot of damage. There are so many clueless and dumb parents and letting them rule the roost is a big mistake.
All the experts say it is time to get cell phones out of schools. Why is MCPS not listening to them

I do not think parents rule at MCPS at all. If that were the case, the Ethiopian/Muslim parents who were protesting the removal of the ELA LGBT opt-out would have gotten their way. Same thing for the MVA, which was cancelled despite those parents being very vocal about that not being their desired outcome.

Are there individual parents who make noise and are inconvenient? Sure. But parents have very weak and limited power in MCPS.

The cell phone issue has far more to do with inept, lazy admin who don't want to do their job or get their hands dirty with enforcing the cell phone policy. Some of that is because many admin lack communication, diplomacy and decision making skills that are required to build the trust and consensus that is required to make a cell phone policy ban actually work. And MCPS's top brass refuses to recognize this competence gap and just keeps pushing the problem down to school-based leadership, regardless of how well school-based leadership implements or doesn't implement these policies.

Our current failed state with phones in schools is due to the ongoing crisis of leadership in MCPS, not parents.

I for one. I'm glad that mcps will not heed parents pushing their bigotry on children.

Further, the cell phone issues i
Are one of lazy inept parenting not administration..

I'm tired of everything being about specific groups and MCPS pushing their agenda. It needs to say out of schools and MCPS get back to actually educating kids. Health ed isn't about health at all anymore but pushing the MCPS agenda. Its shameful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the common refrain - parents know best - has caused a lot of damage. There are so many clueless and dumb parents and letting them rule the roost is a big mistake.
All the experts say it is time to get cell phones out of schools. Why is MCPS not listening to them

I do not think parents rule at MCPS at all. If that were the case, the Ethiopian/Muslim parents who were protesting the removal of the ELA LGBT opt-out would have gotten their way. Same thing for the MVA, which was cancelled despite those parents being very vocal about that not being their desired outcome.

Are there individual parents who make noise and are inconvenient? Sure. But parents have very weak and limited power in MCPS.

The cell phone issue has far more to do with inept, lazy admin who don't want to do their job or get their hands dirty with enforcing the cell phone policy. Some of that is because many admin lack communication, diplomacy and decision making skills that are required to build the trust and consensus that is required to make a cell phone policy ban actually work. And MCPS's top brass refuses to recognize this competence gap and just keeps pushing the problem down to school-based leadership, regardless of how well school-based leadership implements or doesn't implement these policies.

Our current failed state with phones in schools is due to the ongoing crisis of leadership in MCPS, not parents.

The BOE needs to go. However, parents are the ones who decide about pone usage and parents can choose not to send a phone with their kids. I think it interesting the most vocal send their kids with phones to school. If you are against it don't give your kid one. Simple. In less MCPS puts in pay phones, for us, we will send a phone home.

This post is barely literate but I can make out the gist of it. No- the district decides the rules and regulations of a school-NOT parents. Simple. If they say no cellphones, then no cellphones. Just like your kid can’t bring a weapon to school even if you as a parent think your kid needs to carry a gun for protection. See how that works?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the common refrain - parents know best - has caused a lot of damage. There are so many clueless and dumb parents and letting them rule the roost is a big mistake.
All the experts say it is time to get cell phones out of schools. Why is MCPS not listening to them

I do not think parents rule at MCPS at all. If that were the case, the Ethiopian/Muslim parents who were protesting the removal of the ELA LGBT opt-out would have gotten their way. Same thing for the MVA, which was cancelled despite those parents being very vocal about that not being their desired outcome.

Are there individual parents who make noise and are inconvenient? Sure. But parents have very weak and limited power in MCPS.

The cell phone issue has far more to do with inept, lazy admin who don't want to do their job or get their hands dirty with enforcing the cell phone policy. Some of that is because many admin lack communication, diplomacy and decision making skills that are required to build the trust and consensus that is required to make a cell phone policy ban actually work. And MCPS's top brass refuses to recognize this competence gap and just keeps pushing the problem down to school-based leadership, regardless of how well school-based leadership implements or doesn't implement these policies.

Our current failed state with phones in schools is due to the ongoing crisis of leadership in MCPS, not parents.

The BOE needs to go. However, parents are the ones who decide about pone usage and parents can choose not to send a phone with their kids. I think it interesting the most vocal send their kids with phones to school. If you are against it don't give your kid one. Simple. In less MCPS puts in pay phones, for us, we will send a phone home.

This post is barely literate but I can make out the gist of it. No- the district decides the rules and regulations of a school-NOT parents. Simple. If they say no cellphones, then no cellphones. Just like your kid can’t bring a weapon to school even if you as a parent think your kid needs to carry a gun for protection. See how that works?

We don't have a no cell phone policy and my children will be going with cell phones as MCPS schools have serious safety and communication issues. See how that works. If there is a gun in the school, I want my kid to call me so I can come get them. Great example of WHY we need cell phones in the school. School shooters for one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Admin always have the power to put all the blame on the teachers a d take no responsibility. They will write it up in you evaluations and say the teacher has no control over their class and can nnot manage students properly. Admin are scumbags to teachers and i wish we could sue them for trying to ruin our careers.

Please consider a career change. Sounds like it’s time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the common refrain - parents know best - has caused a lot of damage. There are so many clueless and dumb parents and letting them rule the roost is a big mistake.
All the experts say it is time to get cell phones out of schools. Why is MCPS not listening to them

I do not think parents rule at MCPS at all. If that were the case, the Ethiopian/Muslim parents who were protesting the removal of the ELA LGBT opt-out would have gotten their way. Same thing for the MVA, which was cancelled despite those parents being very vocal about that not being their desired outcome.

Are there individual parents who make noise and are inconvenient? Sure. But parents have very weak and limited power in MCPS.

The cell phone issue has far more to do with inept, lazy admin who don't want to do their job or get their hands dirty with enforcing the cell phone policy. Some of that is because many admin lack communication, diplomacy and decision making skills that are required to build the trust and consensus that is required to make a cell phone policy ban actually work. And MCPS's top brass refuses to recognize this competence gap and just keeps pushing the problem down to school-based leadership, regardless of how well school-based leadership implements or doesn't implement these policies.

Our current failed state with phones in schools is due to the ongoing crisis of leadership in MCPS, not parents.

The BOE needs to go. However, parents are the ones who decide about pone usage and parents can choose not to send a phone with their kids. I think it interesting the most vocal send their kids with phones to school. If you are against it don't give your kid one. Simple. In less MCPS puts in pay phones, for us, we will send a phone home.

This post is barely literate but I can make out the gist of it. No- the district decides the rules and regulations of a school-NOT parents. Simple. If they say no cellphones, then no cellphones. Just like your kid can’t bring a weapon to school even if you as a parent think your kid needs to carry a gun for protection. See how that works?

We don't have a no cell phone policy and my children will be going with cell phones as MCPS schools have serious safety and communication issues. See how that works. If there is a gun in the school, I want my kid to call me so I can come get them. Great example of WHY we need cell phones in the school. School shooters for one.

Cellphones aren’t going to save your kids in a school shooting incident. Yes, everyone’s aware there’s no cellphone policy in place which is why people are discussing it on this forum. Are you new to the planet or just the internet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the common refrain - parents know best - has caused a lot of damage. There are so many clueless and dumb parents and letting them rule the roost is a big mistake.
All the experts say it is time to get cell phones out of schools. Why is MCPS not listening to them

I do not think parents rule at MCPS at all. If that were the case, the Ethiopian/Muslim parents who were protesting the removal of the ELA LGBT opt-out would have gotten their way. Same thing for the MVA, which was cancelled despite those parents being very vocal about that not being their desired outcome.

Are there individual parents who make noise and are inconvenient? Sure. But parents have very weak and limited power in MCPS.

The cell phone issue has far more to do with inept, lazy admin who don't want to do their job or get their hands dirty with enforcing the cell phone policy. Some of that is because many admin lack communication, diplomacy and decision making skills that are required to build the trust and consensus that is required to make a cell phone policy ban actually work. And MCPS's top brass refuses to recognize this competence gap and just keeps pushing the problem down to school-based leadership, regardless of how well school-based leadership implements or doesn't implement these policies.

Our current failed state with phones in schools is due to the ongoing crisis of leadership in MCPS, not parents.

The BOE needs to go. However, parents are the ones who decide about pone usage and parents can choose not to send a phone with their kids. I think it interesting the most vocal send their kids with phones to school. If you are against it don't give your kid one. Simple. In less MCPS puts in pay phones, for us, we will send a phone home.

This post is barely literate but I can make out the gist of it. No- the district decides the rules and regulations of a school-NOT parents. Simple. If they say no cellphones, then no cellphones. Just like your kid can’t bring a weapon to school even if you as a parent think your kid needs to carry a gun for protection. See how that works?

We don't have a no cell phone policy and my children will be going with cell phones as MCPS schools have serious safety and communication issues. See how that works. If there is a gun in the school, I want my kid to call me so I can come get them. Great example of WHY we need cell phones in the school. School shooters for one.

That's reasonable to me. The people pushing this stuff just want to force their views on others. Fortunately none of this is happening.