Anybody following the Karen Read trial in Boston?

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, court tv lady-I think there’s reasonable doubt. No one I know in mass thinks the case is strong enough and most are shocked and annoyed they retried.

I'm not "court tv lady," I'm a GULC JD with decades of experience in our criminal justice system and several hundred DUIs under my belt as both a defender and a prosecutor.

And you must not know many people in Mass who have actual brains in their heads, or the ones you know are all cult susceptible non-critical thinkers.

Yes, and former prosecutors are of course famously representative of the average juror!

Did you miss the DEFENDER part of my post?

I was in the criminal justice clinic at Georgetown, one of the best such programs in the country. I also clerked at the PDS in DC, one of the best public defender organizations in the country. I have a much stronger predilection toward the defense position which is what made me an excellent prosecutor. I know what reasonable doubt is and I know what magical thinking, UNreasonable doubt and shadows of doubt look like. I'd be the first to criticize if I saw any evidence whatsoever of nefarious activity on the part of the po-po in this case; it's not there. Calling a disgusting murdered a c*** on your private phone in text messages to friends/family doesn't make you a dirty cop.

An audit of the Canton PD was done by 5 Stones intelligence, an outfit that has multi-million contracts with the USA government across multiple agencies. No wrongdoing, no corruption. Some of their practices need to be updated to best practices, but nothing was done in this investigation to undermine the evidence that was collected. There was ZERO probable cause to investigate the home or the guests therein.

An audit of sorts was done by the FBI/DOJ of the Massachusetts State Police and all parties involved in this case and there was ZERO evidence found of a third party culprit or a police coverup. If you think differently, you don't know the relationships between local and federal law enforcement in Massachusetts. If there had been anything nefarious found, heads would be rolling.

Karen Read is an odious human being who is guilty of manslaughtering and murdering John O'Keefe. What she's done since she killed him is the proof of what a disgusting c*** she is at her core, she has a disordered personality and no moral compass whatsoever.

You are way too invested in a random case, are you always this crazy?

+1 you probably want to keep an eye on your blood pressure, former prosecutor/defender/alum of the prestigious criminal justice clinic at Georgetown.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, court tv lady-I think there’s reasonable doubt. No one I know in mass thinks the case is strong enough and most are shocked and annoyed they retried.

I'm not "court tv lady," I'm a GULC JD with decades of experience in our criminal justice system and several hundred DUIs under my belt as both a defender and a prosecutor.

And you must not know many people in Mass who have actual brains in their heads, or the ones you know are all cult susceptible non-critical thinkers.

Yes, and former prosecutors are of course famously representative of the average juror!

Did you miss the DEFENDER part of my post?

I was in the criminal justice clinic at Georgetown, one of the best such programs in the country. I also clerked at the PDS in DC, one of the best public defender organizations in the country. I have a much stronger predilection toward the defense position which is what made me an excellent prosecutor. I know what reasonable doubt is and I know what magical thinking, UNreasonable doubt and shadows of doubt look like. I'd be the first to criticize if I saw any evidence whatsoever of nefarious activity on the part of the po-po in this case; it's not there. Calling a disgusting murdered a c*** on your private phone in text messages to friends/family doesn't make you a dirty cop.

An audit of the Canton PD was done by 5 Stones intelligence, an outfit that has multi-million contracts with the USA government across multiple agencies. No wrongdoing, no corruption. Some of their practices need to be updated to best practices, but nothing was done in this investigation to undermine the evidence that was collected. There was ZERO probable cause to investigate the home or the guests therein.

An audit of sorts was done by the FBI/DOJ of the Massachusetts State Police and all parties involved in this case and there was ZERO evidence found of a third party culprit or a police coverup. If you think differently, you don't know the relationships between local and federal law enforcement in Massachusetts. If there had been anything nefarious found, heads would be rolling.

Karen Read is an odious human being who is guilty of manslaughtering and murdering John O'Keefe. What she's done since she killed him is the proof of what a disgusting c*** she is at her core, she has a disordered personality and no moral compass whatsoever.

You are way too invested in a random case, are you always this crazy?

+1 you probably want to keep an eye on your blood pressure, former prosecutor/defender/alum of the prestigious criminal justice clinic at Georgetown.

+2. I've got enough of that person's resume myself (I also did the criminal justice clinic, it's a good experience, but "prestigious" is weird), that I'm a little worried I know her.

[Anonymous]

Anyways, courts adjourned for the day. I thought McCabe did well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, court tv lady-I think there’s reasonable doubt. No one I know in mass thinks the case is strong enough and most are shocked and annoyed they retried.

I'm not "court tv lady," I'm a GULC JD with decades of experience in our criminal justice system and several hundred DUIs under my belt as both a defender and a prosecutor.

And you must not know many people in Mass who have actual brains in their heads, or the ones you know are all cult susceptible non-critical thinkers.

you must be a terrible attorney to believe such lies. GULS should take your degree back.

You have no investment into this case. I am local. My parents live in Canton. Everyone in town knows she didn’t do it and is getting railroaded while I pay for it as a taxpayer.

Every ALL CAPS comment you make can be rebutted.

MSP is garbage as is Canton PD. Look at the Birchmore case.

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Anonymous wrote:She did it. If the people in the house killed him, which they did not, then they got pretty damn lucky that she broke her tail light and was the one to find him the next morning. Because without that they would have had no way to pin this on her.

She called her mom that night in the middle of the night 3 times she knew what she did.

Lots of women call their moms multiple times a day or night. Whatever!

“She felt she struck something,” William Read said in the Boston 25 segment. “She said, ‘Dad, I think I struck something. … I remember … backing up and hitting something.’

ok....

+10000 she admitted to what 4-7 people she hit him!

[Anonymous]

Well I hope this jury isn't full of morons this time around. This case is so obvious. She's 1000% guilty. She belongs in jail.

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Did you miss the DEFENDER part of my post?

I was in the criminal justice clinic at Georgetown, one of the best such programs in the country. I also clerked at the PDS in DC, one of the best public defender organizations in the country. I have a much stronger predilection toward the defense position which is what made me an excellent prosecutor. I know what reasonable doubt is and I know what magical thinking, UNreasonable doubt and shadows of doubt look like. I'd be the first to criticize if I saw any evidence whatsoever of nefarious activity on the part of the po-po in this case; it's not there. Calling a disgusting murdered a c*** on your private phone in text messages to friends/family doesn't make you a dirty cop.

An audit of the Canton PD was done by 5 Stones intelligence, an outfit that has multi-million contracts with the USA government across multiple agencies. No wrongdoing, no corruption. Some of their practices need to be updated to best practices, but nothing was done in this investigation to undermine the evidence that was collected. There was ZERO probable cause to investigate the home or the guests therein.

An audit of sorts was done by the FBI/DOJ of the Massachusetts State Police and all parties involved in this case and there was ZERO evidence found of a third party culprit or a police coverup. If you think differently, you don't know the relationships between local and federal law enforcement in Massachusetts. If there had been anything nefarious found, heads would be rolling.

Karen Read is an odious human being who is guilty of manslaughtering and murdering John O'Keefe. What she's done since she killed him is the proof of what a disgusting c*** she is at her core, she has a disordered personality and no moral compass whatsoever.

No probable cause to investigate the home and people in it? The guy was dying on their property!

Since she killed him? That has not been proven yet.

You sound like a Canton c**t yourself. Do you have the New England sh|t lip?

Not invested in this case at all, but New Englanders are weird and petty.

[Anonymous]

It was a house full of self-admitted drunk drivers, some convicted for it including Chris Albert who killed someone. We know they all drove to the house drunk and some left the house drunk at various times of the night, including right around the same time as Karen. So if he was hit by a car, how do we know Karen is the one drunk driver who did it?

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It makes zero sense. Let's say she DID hit his arm with the corner of her car in reverse. Even at 25 mph (so unlikely) that is not enough to kill a person. Why would he then just go lay down in the snow and wait to freeze to death?

Also, if she knew (or even thought) she hit him, why would she call him so many times afterward screaming at him leaving incriminating messages about how mad she was?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyways, courts adjourned for the day. I thought McCabe did well.

She did great!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, court tv lady-I think there’s reasonable doubt. No one I know in mass thinks the case is strong enough and most are shocked and annoyed they retried.

I'm not "court tv lady," I'm a GULC JD with decades of experience in our criminal justice system and several hundred DUIs under my belt as both a defender and a prosecutor.

And you must not know many people in Mass who have actual brains in their heads, or the ones you know are all cult susceptible non-critical thinkers.

you must be a terrible attorney to believe such lies. GULS should take your degree back.

You have no investment into this case. I am local. My parents live in Canton. Everyone in town knows she didn’t do it and is getting railroaded while I pay for it as a taxpayer.

Every ALL CAPS comment you make can be rebutted.

MSP is garbage as is Canton PD. Look at the Birchmore case.

I'm not the crazed attorney, but your opinion isn't more valid just because you have ties to Canton. There is no way she didn't hit him. No way. He would still be alive if she had not hit him with her car and left him to die in the cold.

[Anonymous]

The minute, I heard that the cop stayed in his house while the person dying on his front lawn and refused to go outside to help. I knew they were guilty.

I have a household of law-enforcement officers and believe me, dude is guilty AF

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The minute, I heard that the cop stayed in his house while the person dying on his front lawn and refused to go outside to help. I knew they were guilty.

I have a household of law-enforcement officers and believe me, dude is guilty AF

He was already dead. Killed eight hours earlier by Karen

[Anonymous]

What about the two minutes that he was walking around and using his phone after she had driven away? He turned on and the turned off his phone using the lock button two minutes after she had left.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about the two minutes that he was walking around and using his phone after she had driven away? He turned on and the turned off his phone using the lock button two minutes after she had left.

Yes, this part is what I come back to: she had to have left already to get to his house at 12.36. She could not have been there and we know he was alive and well at that time. Meanwhile there was a house full of other people and a driveway/road in front of the house with people still there. So why were they not investigated more if the idea is that he was struck with a car considering they had cars there and Karen Read did not and they were just as impaired as she was?