How can we make DC streets bicycle and pedestrian-only?

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Anonymous wrote:Does DC provide scooters and e-bikes to Section 8 residents?

DC has created an e-bike subsidy that includes an income-based criteria. Not sure why they excluded scooters, which is not fair to the large scooter riding community.

Someone should tell the “scooter riding community” to stay the hell off the sidewalks! It’s dangerous for pedestrians — and illegal — to operate scooters there.

Only in the downtown business district is it actually illegal. Where are they supposed to ride? In the road? People like you called for speed caps at 10mph. Riding a scooter at 10mph in the road with cars going 25-40mph more than you is way more dangerous than riding on a side walk.

We don't care if you get killed. Stay off the sidewalks.

Well then, I think you should go try sticking a fork in your electrical socket.

[Anonymous]

Why is this obvious troll thread still on Recent

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC is such a beautifully designed city, with amazing outdoor dining and cafe potential.

But trucks, busses, cars and motorcycles ruin it for us residents.

DC is geographically tiny, so why not make our streets pedestrian and bicycles- only?

Please move downtown if you want this lifestyle. It’s already there. Stop screwing up the single family neighborhoods with this nonsense. We like our car lifestyle just fine.

where in downtown DC is there bike and pedesrtain only street? I live in Capiol HIll and I dont see any. Except I guess on weekends right in front of eastern market.

BTW I visited Montreal this summer and there was a lovely 3 block stretch where cars arent allowed. The delivery trucks use the alley areas. It was really nice. Bustling little shops and restaurants on the ground floor and apartments or offices above. All locals, no chains.

But Montreal is much cheaper real estate than DC, so maybe folks are more willing to take risks like this. As I disabled person I enjoyed the larger area for walking and using a wheelchair.etc. often sidewalks are too narrow for comfort and it was nice to be able use the entire street.

The problem is buildings and money as it is in many US areas. Buildings are built with little room between them and the street. DC would need larger setbacks and an area of no-builds, but they won’t do this because it would lose money on property taxes.

Look at what Falls Church and Clarendon did. They are canyons. I’m not anti-car but I am foe making places more walkable. Both of these places made it less appealing to walk and harder to use other modes of human-powered transportation.

Good point!

For DC, I’m thinking that rather than make certain roads “no cars” make them one way for cars. It would be bike line, parking, one way car line, parking, bike line. In my neighborhood there are so many narrow streets— May as well just make them one way, and make protected bike lines. Maybe there are some more narrow streets in Falls Church or Clarendon that could also try this. 🤔

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is such a beautifully designed city, with amazing outdoor dining and cafe potential.

But trucks, busses, cars and motorcycles ruin it for us residents.

DC is geographically tiny, so why not make our streets pedestrian and bicycles- only?

Please move downtown if you want this lifestyle. It’s already there. Stop screwing up the single family neighborhoods with this nonsense. We like our car lifestyle just fine.

where in downtown DC is there bike and pedesrtain only street? I live in Capiol HIll and I dont see any. Except I guess on weekends right in front of eastern market.

BTW I visited Montreal this summer and there was a lovely 3 block stretch where cars arent allowed. The delivery trucks use the alley areas. It was really nice. Bustling little shops and restaurants on the ground floor and apartments or offices above. All locals, no chains.

But Montreal is much cheaper real estate than DC, so maybe folks are more willing to take risks like this. As I disabled person I enjoyed the larger area for walking and using a wheelchair.etc. often sidewalks are too narrow for comfort and it was nice to be able use the entire street.

The problem is buildings and money as it is in many US areas. Buildings are built with little room between them and the street. DC would need larger setbacks and an area of no-builds, but they won’t do this because it would lose money on property taxes.

Look at what Falls Church and Clarendon did. They are canyons. I’m not anti-car but I am foe making places more walkable. Both of these places made it less appealing to walk and harder to use other modes of human-powered transportation.

Good point!

For DC, I’m thinking that rather than make certain roads “no cars” make them one way for cars. It would be bike line, parking, one way car line, parking, bike line. In my neighborhood there are so many narrow streets— May as well just make them one way, and make protected bike lines. Maybe there are some more narrow streets in Falls Church or Clarendon that could also try this. 🤔

Why no scooter lane?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is such a beautifully designed city, with amazing outdoor dining and cafe potential.

But trucks, busses, cars and motorcycles ruin it for us residents.

DC is geographically tiny, so why not make our streets pedestrian and bicycles- only?

Please move downtown if you want this lifestyle. It’s already there. Stop screwing up the single family neighborhoods with this nonsense. We like our car lifestyle just fine.

where in downtown DC is there bike and pedesrtain only street? I live in Capiol HIll and I dont see any. Except I guess on weekends right in front of eastern market.

BTW I visited Montreal this summer and there was a lovely 3 block stretch where cars arent allowed. The delivery trucks use the alley areas. It was really nice. Bustling little shops and restaurants on the ground floor and apartments or offices above. All locals, no chains.

But Montreal is much cheaper real estate than DC, so maybe folks are more willing to take risks like this. As I disabled person I enjoyed the larger area for walking and using a wheelchair.etc. often sidewalks are too narrow for comfort and it was nice to be able use the entire street.

The problem is buildings and money as it is in many US areas. Buildings are built with little room between them and the street. DC would need larger setbacks and an area of no-builds, but they won’t do this because it would lose money on property taxes.

Look at what Falls Church and Clarendon did. They are canyons. I’m not anti-car but I am foe making places more walkable. Both of these places made it less appealing to walk and harder to use other modes of human-powered transportation.

Good point!

For DC, I’m thinking that rather than make certain roads “no cars” make them one way for cars. It would be bike line, parking, one way car line, parking, bike line. In my neighborhood there are so many narrow streets— May as well just make them one way, and make protected bike lines. Maybe there are some more narrow streets in Falls Church or Clarendon that could also try this. 🤔

Why no scooter lane?

https://www.tiktok.com/@tyler.oliveira/video/7208968337630694702?lang=en

[Anonymous]

Changing the weather so that it never rains heavily, never is humid and never cold. This isn't a dense little town with access to public transportation with shelters. Wake up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Changing the weather so that it never rains heavily, never is humid and never cold. This isn't a dense little town with access to public transportation with shelters. Wake up

Yeah, wake up people. Everyone needs to stop using public transport and these kid toys and instead spend a solid third of their income on $700-800 a month car loan payments so that you too can be traffic!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is such a beautifully designed city, with amazing outdoor dining and cafe potential.

But trucks, busses, cars and motorcycles ruin it for us residents.

DC is geographically tiny, so why not make our streets pedestrian and bicycles- only?

Please move downtown if you want this lifestyle. It’s already there. Stop screwing up the single family neighborhoods with this nonsense. We like our car lifestyle just fine.

where in downtown DC is there bike and pedesrtain only street? I live in Capiol HIll and I dont see any. Except I guess on weekends right in front of eastern market.

BTW I visited Montreal this summer and there was a lovely 3 block stretch where cars arent allowed. The delivery trucks use the alley areas. It was really nice. Bustling little shops and restaurants on the ground floor and apartments or offices above. All locals, no chains.

But Montreal is much cheaper real estate than DC, so maybe folks are more willing to take risks like this. As I disabled person I enjoyed the larger area for walking and using a wheelchair.etc. often sidewalks are too narrow for comfort and it was nice to be able use the entire street.

The problem is buildings and money as it is in many US areas. Buildings are built with little room between them and the street. DC would need larger setbacks and an area of no-builds, but they won’t do this because it would lose money on property taxes.

Look at what Falls Church and Clarendon did. They are canyons. I’m not anti-car but I am foe making places more walkable. Both of these places made it less appealing to walk and harder to use other modes of human-powered transportation.

Good point!

For DC, I’m thinking that rather than make certain roads “no cars” make them one way for cars. It would be bike line, parking, one way car line, parking, bike line. In my neighborhood there are so many narrow streets— May as well just make them one way, and make protected bike lines. Maybe there are some more narrow streets in Falls Church or Clarendon that could also try this. 🤔

Why no scooter lane?

https://www.tiktok.com/@tyler.oliveira/video/7208968337630694702?lang=en

I'm just laughing at all your recommended videos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is such a beautifully designed city, with amazing outdoor dining and cafe potential.

But trucks, busses, cars and motorcycles ruin it for us residents.

DC is geographically tiny, so why not make our streets pedestrian and bicycles- only?

Please move downtown if you want this lifestyle. It’s already there. Stop screwing up the single family neighborhoods with this nonsense. We like our car lifestyle just fine.

where in downtown DC is there bike and pedesrtain only street? I live in Capiol HIll and I dont see any. Except I guess on weekends right in front of eastern market.

BTW I visited Montreal this summer and there was a lovely 3 block stretch where cars arent allowed. The delivery trucks use the alley areas. It was really nice. Bustling little shops and restaurants on the ground floor and apartments or offices above. All locals, no chains.

But Montreal is much cheaper real estate than DC, so maybe folks are more willing to take risks like this. As I disabled person I enjoyed the larger area for walking and using a wheelchair.etc. often sidewalks are too narrow for comfort and it was nice to be able use the entire street.

The problem is buildings and money as it is in many US areas. Buildings are built with little room between them and the street. DC would need larger setbacks and an area of no-builds, but they won’t do this because it would lose money on property taxes.

Look at what Falls Church and Clarendon did. They are canyons. I’m not anti-car but I am foe making places more walkable. Both of these places made it less appealing to walk and harder to use other modes of human-powered transportation.

Good point!

For DC, I’m thinking that rather than make certain roads “no cars” make them one way for cars. It would be bike line, parking, one way car line, parking, bike line. In my neighborhood there are so many narrow streets— May as well just make them one way, and make protected bike lines. Maybe there are some more narrow streets in Falls Church or Clarendon that could also try this. 🤔

Why no scooter lane?

Could scooters use the bike lanes? Or I guess it could be bike lane, parking, one way car lane, parking, scooter lane. I've never seen a scooter only lane before, but maybe I don't get out much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is such a beautifully designed city, with amazing outdoor dining and cafe potential.

But trucks, busses, cars and motorcycles ruin it for us residents.

DC is geographically tiny, so why not make our streets pedestrian and bicycles- only?

Please move downtown if you want this lifestyle. It’s already there. Stop screwing up the single family neighborhoods with this nonsense. We like our car lifestyle just fine.

where in downtown DC is there bike and pedesrtain only street? I live in Capiol HIll and I dont see any. Except I guess on weekends right in front of eastern market.

BTW I visited Montreal this summer and there was a lovely 3 block stretch where cars arent allowed. The delivery trucks use the alley areas. It was really nice. Bustling little shops and restaurants on the ground floor and apartments or offices above. All locals, no chains.

But Montreal is much cheaper real estate than DC, so maybe folks are more willing to take risks like this. As I disabled person I enjoyed the larger area for walking and using a wheelchair.etc. often sidewalks are too narrow for comfort and it was nice to be able use the entire street.

The problem is buildings and money as it is in many US areas. Buildings are built with little room between them and the street. DC would need larger setbacks and an area of no-builds, but they won’t do this because it would lose money on property taxes.

Look at what Falls Church and Clarendon did. They are canyons. I’m not anti-car but I am foe making places more walkable. Both of these places made it less appealing to walk and harder to use other modes of human-powered transportation.

Good point!

For DC, I’m thinking that rather than make certain roads “no cars” make them one way for cars. It would be bike line, parking, one way car line, parking, bike line. In my neighborhood there are so many narrow streets— May as well just make them one way, and make protected bike lines. Maybe there are some more narrow streets in Falls Church or Clarendon that could also try this. 🤔

Why no scooter lane?

Could scooters use the bike lanes? Or I guess it could be bike lane, parking, one way car lane, parking, scooter lane. I've never seen a scooter only lane before, but maybe I don't get out much.

Yes, people on scooters can use bike lanes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is such a beautifully designed city, with amazing outdoor dining and cafe potential.

But trucks, busses, cars and motorcycles ruin it for us residents.

DC is geographically tiny, so why not make our streets pedestrian and bicycles- only?

Please move downtown if you want this lifestyle. It’s already there. Stop screwing up the single family neighborhoods with this nonsense. We like our car lifestyle just fine.

where in downtown DC is there bike and pedesrtain only street? I live in Capiol HIll and I dont see any. Except I guess on weekends right in front of eastern market.

BTW I visited Montreal this summer and there was a lovely 3 block stretch where cars arent allowed. The delivery trucks use the alley areas. It was really nice. Bustling little shops and restaurants on the ground floor and apartments or offices above. All locals, no chains.

But Montreal is much cheaper real estate than DC, so maybe folks are more willing to take risks like this. As I disabled person I enjoyed the larger area for walking and using a wheelchair.etc. often sidewalks are too narrow for comfort and it was nice to be able use the entire street.

The problem is buildings and money as it is in many US areas. Buildings are built with little room between them and the street. DC would need larger setbacks and an area of no-builds, but they won’t do this because it would lose money on property taxes.

Look at what Falls Church and Clarendon did. They are canyons. I’m not anti-car but I am foe making places more walkable. Both of these places made it less appealing to walk and harder to use other modes of human-powered transportation.

Good point!

For DC, I’m thinking that rather than make certain roads “no cars” make them one way for cars. It would be bike line, parking, one way car line, parking, bike line. In my neighborhood there are so many narrow streets— May as well just make them one way, and make protected bike lines. Maybe there are some more narrow streets in Falls Church or Clarendon that could also try this. 🤔

Why no scooter lane?

Could scooters use the bike lanes? Or I guess it could be bike lane, parking, one way car lane, parking, scooter lane. I've never seen a scooter only lane before, but maybe I don't get out much.

Dedicated, protected lanes specifically for scooters are needed because paint isn’t protection. The only surprising / not surprising thing about this is how hostile and unconcerned cyclists are about the safety and lives of scooter users. You either believe in safe streets for everyone or no one.

https://twitter.com/alanhenney/status/1723853070495322471

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does DC provide scooters and e-bikes to Section 8 residents?

DC has created an e-bike subsidy that includes an income-based criteria. Not sure why they excluded scooters, which is not fair to the large scooter riding community.

Someone should tell the “scooter riding community” to stay the hell off the sidewalks! It’s dangerous for pedestrians — and illegal — to operate scooters there.

Only in the downtown business district is it actually illegal. Where are they supposed to ride? In the road? People like you called for speed caps at 10mph. Riding a scooter at 10mph in the road with cars going 25-40mph more than you is way more dangerous than riding on a side walk.

We don't care if you get killed. Stay off the sidewalks.

If you want scooters off the sidewalk then you should support provide scooters users with safe, protected infrastructure. What do you have against scooters? Are you a scooter bigot?

Let’s just get rid of the friggin things like some other cities are doing.

Can we ban e-bikes too? We do not need to accommodate every single trendy mode of transportation that comes along.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is such a beautifully designed city, with amazing outdoor dining and cafe potential.

But trucks, busses, cars and motorcycles ruin it for us residents.

DC is geographically tiny, so why not make our streets pedestrian and bicycles- only?

Please move downtown if you want this lifestyle. It’s already there. Stop screwing up the single family neighborhoods with this nonsense. We like our car lifestyle just fine.

where in downtown DC is there bike and pedesrtain only street? I live in Capiol HIll and I dont see any. Except I guess on weekends right in front of eastern market.

BTW I visited Montreal this summer and there was a lovely 3 block stretch where cars arent allowed. The delivery trucks use the alley areas. It was really nice. Bustling little shops and restaurants on the ground floor and apartments or offices above. All locals, no chains.

But Montreal is much cheaper real estate than DC, so maybe folks are more willing to take risks like this. As I disabled person I enjoyed the larger area for walking and using a wheelchair.etc. often sidewalks are too narrow for comfort and it was nice to be able use the entire street.

The problem is buildings and money as it is in many US areas. Buildings are built with little room between them and the street. DC would need larger setbacks and an area of no-builds, but they won’t do this because it would lose money on property taxes.

Look at what Falls Church and Clarendon did. They are canyons. I’m not anti-car but I am foe making places more walkable. Both of these places made it less appealing to walk and harder to use other modes of human-powered transportation.

Good point!

For DC, I’m thinking that rather than make certain roads “no cars” make them one way for cars. It would be bike line, parking, one way car line, parking, bike line. In my neighborhood there are so many narrow streets— May as well just make them one way, and make protected bike lines. Maybe there are some more narrow streets in Falls Church or Clarendon that could also try this. 🤔

Why no scooter lane?

Could scooters use the bike lanes? Or I guess it could be bike lane, parking, one way car lane, parking, scooter lane. I've never seen a scooter only lane before, but maybe I don't get out much.

Dedicated, protected lanes specifically for scooters are needed because paint isn’t protection. The only surprising / not surprising thing about this is how hostile and unconcerned cyclists are about the safety and lives of scooter users. You either believe in safe streets for everyone or no one.

https://twitter.com/alanhenney/status/1723853070495322471

That's a motor scooter, aka a moped.

https://dmv.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dmv/publication/attachments/Non-Traditional%20Motor%20Vehicle%20Chart%20%283.24.21%29.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is such a beautifully designed city, with amazing outdoor dining and cafe potential.

But trucks, busses, cars and motorcycles ruin it for us residents.

DC is geographically tiny, so why not make our streets pedestrian and bicycles- only?

Please move downtown if you want this lifestyle. It’s already there. Stop screwing up the single family neighborhoods with this nonsense. We like our car lifestyle just fine.

where in downtown DC is there bike and pedesrtain only street? I live in Capiol HIll and I dont see any. Except I guess on weekends right in front of eastern market.

BTW I visited Montreal this summer and there was a lovely 3 block stretch where cars arent allowed. The delivery trucks use the alley areas. It was really nice. Bustling little shops and restaurants on the ground floor and apartments or offices above. All locals, no chains.

But Montreal is much cheaper real estate than DC, so maybe folks are more willing to take risks like this. As I disabled person I enjoyed the larger area for walking and using a wheelchair.etc. often sidewalks are too narrow for comfort and it was nice to be able use the entire street.

The problem is buildings and money as it is in many US areas. Buildings are built with little room between them and the street. DC would need larger setbacks and an area of no-builds, but they won’t do this because it would lose money on property taxes.

Look at what Falls Church and Clarendon did. They are canyons. I’m not anti-car but I am foe making places more walkable. Both of these places made it less appealing to walk and harder to use other modes of human-powered transportation.

Good point!

For DC, I’m thinking that rather than make certain roads “no cars” make them one way for cars. It would be bike line, parking, one way car line, parking, bike line. In my neighborhood there are so many narrow streets— May as well just make them one way, and make protected bike lines. Maybe there are some more narrow streets in Falls Church or Clarendon that could also try this. 🤔

Why no scooter lane?

Could scooters use the bike lanes? Or I guess it could be bike lane, parking, one way car lane, parking, scooter lane. I've never seen a scooter only lane before, but maybe I don't get out much.

Dedicated, protected lanes specifically for scooters are needed because paint isn’t protection. The only surprising / not surprising thing about this is how hostile and unconcerned cyclists are about the safety and lives of scooter users. You either believe in safe streets for everyone or no one.

https://twitter.com/alanhenney/status/1723853070495322471

That's a motor scooter, aka a moped.

https://dmv.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dmv/publication/attachments/Non-Traditional%20Motor%20Vehicle%20Chart%20%283.24.21%29.pdf

And what’s your point? You either believe in safe streets for everyone or no one. Way to show your *ss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does DC provide scooters and e-bikes to Section 8 residents?

DC has created an e-bike subsidy that includes an income-based criteria. Not sure why they excluded scooters, which is not fair to the large scooter riding community.

Someone should tell the “scooter riding community” to stay the hell off the sidewalks! It’s dangerous for pedestrians — and illegal — to operate scooters there.

Only in the downtown business district is it actually illegal. Where are they supposed to ride? In the road? People like you called for speed caps at 10mph. Riding a scooter at 10mph in the road with cars going 25-40mph more than you is way more dangerous than riding on a side walk.

We don't care if you get killed. Stay off the sidewalks.

If you want scooters off the sidewalk then you should support provide scooters users with safe, protected infrastructure. What do you have against scooters? Are you a scooter bigot?

Let’s just get rid of the friggin things like some other cities are doing.

Can we ban e-bikes too? We do not need to accommodate every single trendy mode of transportation that comes along.

The should certainly ban e-bikes from the sidewalks and the trails. Some of them are quite heavy and at a good clip a collision with a pedestrian could be deadly for the pedestrian.