Boundaries assessment update 2023

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Anonymous wrote:Centreville is getting expanded to 3000, Chantilly is near 3000 with no expansion, and Westfield may have enrollment over 3000 again with growth near new Silver Line stations.

Then pp's suggestion of locating the school at Ellanor Lawrence park near all three of those schools makes logical sense. There is no perfect location (except maybe the land given away to the Saudis---can the county get that back through eminent domain?)

Have you been to that area? It makes no sense.

Specifically, why not? Alleged terrain issues can be fixed by *science*. There is tons of park land in that area, so losing some of this park is fine. The park is absolutely enormous and right on a major road, route 28.

I think most of these posts are by Chantilly parent who wants the new school far away so they wont' get rezoned.

I already posted it would cause weird boundary issues similar to Fairfax/Woodson. My kids can walk to Chantilly, you bet I don't want to be rezoned to some other high school that would require a bus or car to get there while keeping kids from several miles away (Chantilly highlands area) at Chantilly.

[Anonymous]

Any fair boundary realignment for a new high school in that part of the county would be at least 30% FARMS. Hence Chantilly parents happily proclaiming that they just love their overcrowded school.

CVHS is 33%
Westfield is 33%
Chantilly is 20%
Herndon is 48%
Fairfax HS is 34%
South Lakes is 31%

Langley is 4%. Not enough eye rolls in the world

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Centreville is getting expanded to 3000, Chantilly is near 3000 with no expansion, and Westfield may have enrollment over 3000 again with growth near new Silver Line stations.

Then pp's suggestion of locating the school at Ellanor Lawrence park near all three of those schools makes logical sense. There is no perfect location (except maybe the land given away to the Saudis---can the county get that back through eminent domain?)

Have you been to that area? It makes no sense.

Specifically, why not? Alleged terrain issues can be fixed by *science*. There is tons of park land in that area, so losing some of this park is fine. The park is absolutely enormous and right on a major road, route 28.

I think most of these posts are by Chantilly parent who wants the new school far away so they wont' get rezoned.

I already posted it would cause weird boundary issues similar to Fairfax/Woodson. My kids can walk to Chantilly, you bet I don't want to be rezoned to some other high school that would require a bus or car to get there while keeping kids from several miles away (Chantilly highlands area) at Chantilly.

It seems unlikely that anyone within a short walk to a school would be zoned somewhere else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Centreville is getting expanded to 3000, Chantilly is near 3000 with no expansion, and Westfield may have enrollment over 3000 again with growth near new Silver Line stations.

Then pp's suggestion of locating the school at Ellanor Lawrence park near all three of those schools makes logical sense. There is no perfect location (except maybe the land given away to the Saudis---can the county get that back through eminent domain?)

Have you been to that area? It makes no sense.

Specifically, why not? Alleged terrain issues can be fixed by *science*. There is tons of park land in that area, so losing some of this park is fine. The park is absolutely enormous and right on a major road, route 28.

I think most of these posts are by Chantilly parent who wants the new school far away so they wont' get rezoned.

I already posted it would cause weird boundary issues similar to Fairfax/Woodson. My kids can walk to Chantilly, you bet I don't want to be rezoned to some other high school that would require a bus or car to get there while keeping kids from several miles away (Chantilly highlands area) at Chantilly.

The Fairfax/Woodson boundaries are weird because all Fairfax City students are legally required to attend Fairfax HS. There are no independent cities in the western part of the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any fair boundary realignment for a new high school in that part of the county would be at least 30% FARMS. Hence Chantilly parents happily proclaiming that they just love their overcrowded school.

CVHS is 33%
Westfield is 33%
Chantilly is 20%
Herndon is 48%
Fairfax HS is 34%
South Lakes is 31%

Langley is 4%. Not enough eye rolls in the world

How would you change that without extreme busing? By the way, Fairfax is REQUIRED to have ALL Fairfax City students attend. Kids who live right across the street from Woodson go to Fairfax because they live in Fairfax City.

FCPS is 30% FARMS. Does this mean that every time the FARMS rate goes up, we will require a redistribution of students? Ten years ago the states were quite different in these schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any fair boundary realignment for a new high school in that part of the county would be at least 30% FARMS. Hence Chantilly parents happily proclaiming that they just love their overcrowded school.

CVHS is 33%
Westfield is 33%
Chantilly is 20%
Herndon is 48%
Fairfax HS is 34%
South Lakes is 31%

Langley is 4%. Not enough eye rolls in the world

How are you going to make Langley 30% FARMS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any fair boundary realignment for a new high school in that part of the county would be at least 30% FARMS. Hence Chantilly parents happily proclaiming that they just love their overcrowded school.

CVHS is 33%
Westfield is 33%
Chantilly is 20%
Herndon is 48%
Fairfax HS is 34%
South Lakes is 31%

Langley is 4%. Not enough eye rolls in the world

How are you going to make Langley 30% FARMS?

Impossible without too much busing. But it seems ridiculous to exist in the same universe as the rest of the schools.
The person's point was that a new western high school should clock in around 25% or more Farms to match the demographics of that area, which seems about right. Look at CVHS and Westfield. Chantilly has created a magical little island for itself.

[Anonymous]

Everyone knows Langley’s boundaries are ridiculously gerrymandered to only include expensive SFHs. There are kids living almost in Loudoun going there.

[Anonymous]

I'm honestly curious how they even have 4% FARMS. Are there any apartments in those boundaries at all? Is is all kids of live-in servants? What's the deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any fair boundary realignment for a new high school in that part of the county would be at least 30% FARMS. Hence Chantilly parents happily proclaiming that they just love their overcrowded school.

CVHS is 33%
Westfield is 33%
Chantilly is 20%
Herndon is 48%
Fairfax HS is 34%
South Lakes is 31%

Langley is 4%. Not enough eye rolls in the world

How are you going to make Langley 30% FARMS?

Impossible without too much busing. But it seems ridiculous to exist in the same universe as the rest of the schools.
The person's point was that a new western high school should clock in around 25% or more Farms to match the demographics of that area, which seems about right. Look at CVHS and Westfield. Chantilly has created a magical little island for itself.

???At 20% FARMS?

Nothing has been added to Chantilly to make it more affluent--in fact, the last neighborhood to be removed from Chantilly was a VERY affluent neighborhood that was sent to Oakton-already a more affluent school. And, that was almost 20 years ago.

Chantilly has not created a "magical little island." Just maybe, the "magical little island" is a result of good solid teachers that make families want to move into its district. It is hardly a wealthy area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone knows Langley’s boundaries are ridiculously gerrymandered to only include expensive SFHs. There are kids living almost in Loudoun going there.

But we're going to pretend that's not bussing. It's only bussing when it involves FARMs kids

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone knows Langley’s boundaries are ridiculously gerrymandered to only include expensive SFHs. There are kids living almost in Loudoun going there.

But we're going to pretend that's not bussing. It's only bussing when it involves FARMs kids

And when compact boundaries like West Springfield and Chantilly are applauded for being close-knit neighborhoods schools. Good practice in theory, but compact boundaries are also exclusionary. I doubt there would be such vocal support for small catchments in those cases if the catchment included more than a few affordable housing apartments.

[Anonymous]

The basic bargain in Fairfax is we get a bunch of Democrats who are far-left on issues like trans rights and far-right when it comes to school boundaries.

Perfect example is snobby Elaine Tholen, who appointed a trans activist to the FCPS Family Life Committee, but fought to make sure not a single apartment or condo is zoned to Langley High.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone knows Langley’s boundaries are ridiculously gerrymandered to only include expensive SFHs. There are kids living almost in Loudoun going there.

But we're going to pretend that's not bussing. It's only bussing when it involves FARMs kids

And when compact boundaries like West Springfield and Chantilly are applauded for being close-knit neighborhoods schools. Good practice in theory, but compact boundaries are also exclusionary. I doubt there would be such vocal support for small catchments in those cases if the catchment included more than a few affordable housing apartments.

In Chantilly’s case just about everyone there is a lot closer to Chantilly than they are to any other HS. It’s not like Langley defending its egregiously gerrymandered boundaries, where some kids who attend Langley are closer to at least 3-4 other high schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The basic bargain in Fairfax is we get a bunch of Democrats who are far-left on issues like trans rights and far-right when it comes to school boundaries.

Perfect example is snobby Elaine Tholen, who appointed a trans activist to the FCPS Family Life Committee, but fought to make sure not a single apartment or condo is zoned to Langley High.

The board care deeply about equity as long as the poor kids don't start getting crazy notions about being rezoned to better schools