People who ruin neighborhoods (like tkpk) by putting their kids in private school

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Anonymous wrote:More of a vent, but i am uttterly frustrated by people with money who move into nice MC neighborhoods like tkpk or silver spring with relatively good schools to get bigger houses and then choose to put their precious kids in private schools.

We are trying to build a community and bring the schools up and these people create a bad trend of pulling a whole group of UMC kids out of the public schools because they cannot handle the diversity and challenges of public schools. All while claiming to be left leaning and to have a social compass. But that is pure white flight. It is depressing. And they dont even seem to see how political and impactful their choice is.

I really wish they stayed out of my city and went to live next to the private schools they send their kids to.

Translation: We are strivers who worked our butts off and clawed our way into what we thought was a premier neighborhood. We envisioned we and our children would make fast friends with upper middle class and rich new neighbors, parents and classmates. Read social climb. We quickly discovered we are actually on a lower rung and nobody with deep pockets sends their kid to what we thought were excellent public schools — and thus, they don’t socialize with us or our kids.

lol petty good translation there

This is to die for.
I live in a small, old house in a middle-class neighborhood and send my kids to the private school in the UMC town a few miles away. I think my way was smarter.

Meh, now do the person who stretched to afford private school only to find the parents are cliquey and uninterested in anyone without money/status, the teachers and admin prioritize the big donors and VIPs to everyone else's detriment, and you constantly have to explain to your kid why they can't do the same activities, vacations, and shopping sprees as their friends. Oh and they can't get into a good college because the college counselors can only recommend so many kids and oh yeah, those spots are going to the kids of the donors and VIPs

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

This is not true at all. Maybe 50 years ago

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

Yeah why even go to an Ivy if you aren't going to be in an "eating club"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

Ew, this is precisely why I didn't send my kids to private. PP, we do not share the same values.

HHI of 7 figures, BTW.

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Anonymous wrote:More of a vent, but i am uttterly frustrated by people with money who move into nice MC neighborhoods like tkpk or silver spring with relatively good schools to get bigger houses and then choose to put their precious kids in private schools.

We are trying to build a community and bring the schools up and these people create a bad trend of pulling a whole group of UMC kids out of the public schools because they cannot handle the diversity and challenges of public schools. All while claiming to be left leaning and to have a social compass. But that is pure white flight. It is depressing. And they dont even seem to see how political and impactful their choice is.

I really wish they stayed out of my city and went to live next to the private schools they send their kids to.

Translation: We are strivers who worked our butts off and clawed our way into what we thought was a premier neighborhood. We envisioned we and our children would make fast friends with upper middle class and rich new neighbors, parents and classmates. Read social climb. We quickly discovered we are actually on a lower rung and nobody with deep pockets sends their kid to what we thought were excellent public schools — and thus, they don’t socialize with us or our kids.

lol petty good translation there

This is to die for.
I live in a small, old house in a middle-class neighborhood and send my kids to the private school in the UMC town a few miles away. I think my way was smarter.

Meh, now do the person who stretched to afford private school only to find the parents are cliquey and uninterested in anyone without money/status, the teachers and admin prioritize the big donors and VIPs to everyone else's detriment, and you constantly have to explain to your kid why they can't do the same activities, vacations, and shopping sprees as their friends. Oh and they can't get into a good college because the college counselors can only recommend so many kids and oh yeah, those spots are going to the kids of the donors and VIPs

Yeah, research bears out that people are less content when surrounded by people who can afford things they can't. If all your friends ski in Aspen and Telluride and you're skiing at Massanutten, you naturally feel inadequate. If you go to a school where some people have been homeless, then fretting about what type of ski vacation you can afford doesn't happen. Instead your kids feel lucky and blessed.

To me the thing is . . . money and status don't define a person, so why would I want to associate only with people in one sphere? The urge to self-segregate is gross to me. That's not to say that I see no value in private schools or that I judge all people who choose them - I don't. But if it's a place full of people who are obsessed with money and image, then no thank you.

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"Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college."

This made me LOL - thank you for this gift!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

Ew, this is precisely why I didn't send my kids to private. PP, we do not share the same values.

HHI of 7 figures, BTW.

Also gross to tell us your HHI.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

This is not true at all. Maybe 50 years ago

College is irrelevant for wealthier families. I went to Prep school then off to college to have fun. I got my job through my prep school connections. No one cared about college. I now run the firm and would not hire based upon college. I hire based upon intelligence, which for most jobs does not mean getting a 1600 on the SAT, and interpersonal skills.

Prep schools do a far better job at preparing you for the real world than college. I will die on that hill.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

This is not true at all. Maybe 50 years ago

College is irrelevant for wealthier families. I went to Prep school then off to college to have fun. I got my job through my prep school connections. No one cared about college. I now run the firm and would not hire based upon college. I hire based upon intelligence, which for most jobs does not mean getting a 1600 on the SAT, and interpersonal skills.

Prep schools do a far better job at preparing you for the real world than college. I will die on that hill.

Oh come on. You don’t hire on intelligence. You hire on nepotism. What matters to you and that you call “interpersonal skills” is that the person you hire looks like you and has the same type of social connections as you. And the worse of it is that it is actually possible that you are blind to this and really believe you hire people based on their ability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More of a vent, but i am uttterly frustrated by people with money who move into nice MC neighborhoods like tkpk or silver spring with relatively good schools to get bigger houses and then choose to put their precious kids in private schools.

We are trying to build a community and bring the schools up and these people create a bad trend of pulling a whole group of UMC kids out of the public schools because they cannot handle the diversity and challenges of public schools. All while claiming to be left leaning and to have a social compass. But that is pure white flight. It is depressing. And they dont even seem to see how political and impactful their choice is.

I really wish they stayed out of my city and went to live next to the private schools they send their kids to.

Translation: We are strivers who worked our butts off and clawed our way into what we thought was a premier neighborhood. We envisioned we and our children would make fast friends with upper middle class and rich new neighbors, parents and classmates. Read social climb. We quickly discovered we are actually on a lower rung and nobody with deep pockets sends their kid to what we thought were excellent public schools — and thus, they don’t socialize with us or our kids.

lol petty good translation there

This is to die for.
I live in a small, old house in a middle-class neighborhood and send my kids to the private school in the UMC town a few miles away. I think my way was smarter.

Meh, now do the person who stretched to afford private school only to find the parents are cliquey and uninterested in anyone without money/status, the teachers and admin prioritize the big donors and VIPs to everyone else's detriment, and you constantly have to explain to your kid why they can't do the same activities, vacations, and shopping sprees as their friends. Oh and they can't get into a good college because the college counselors can only recommend so many kids and oh yeah, those spots are going to the kids of the donors and VIPs

dp Like going to a public school where the counselor has 400 students or more to advise is really going to get the pp's child into somewhere!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

This is not true at all. Maybe 50 years ago

College is irrelevant for wealthier families. I went to Prep school then off to college to have fun. I got my job through my prep school connections. No one cared about college. I now run the firm and would not hire based upon college. I hire based upon intelligence, which for most jobs does not mean getting a 1600 on the SAT, and interpersonal skills.

Prep schools do a far better job at preparing you for the real world than college. I will die on that hill.

Oh come on. You don’t hire on intelligence. You hire on nepotism. What matters to you and that you call “interpersonal skills” is that the person you hire looks like you and has the same type of social connections as you. And the worse of it is that it is actually possible that you are blind to this and really believe you hire people based on their ability.

No I hire based upon if the person can have an intelligent and fun conversation with an adult. Hiring depends on your business. If I ran a software engineering firm I would recruit from the top schools. If I run a business that is sales/relationship based, I am hiring based upon their ability to be conversational and likeable. Many highly educated people don't have fantastic court awareness..

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There are certain things that most day & boarding prep schools expect out of ALL their students that public schools do not. Mandatory 3 seasons of sports, mandatory public speaking, table manners, uniforms, showing up on time, no snacking or drinking in class, eating what’s served and learning how interact with adults (especially wealthy/successful/old ones) in the community are just some examples.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

If public school was so great for those kids, why not attend a public university too?

Many public university graduates are very successful and make a lot of money. I have a classmate that went to Frostburg State, where she met her husband. They are doing very well and have an enormous house. I'm not sure what your point is.

Exactly, so why bash private schools k-12 and then turn around and send your kid to private U?

Your college ends up on your resume for life and, even decades after graduation, it can play a role in whether you get a job or not. Not so with elementary, middle, and high schools.

Nope. Private k-12 matters far more in terms of college preparation, future dating & friendships, becoming acculturated, socialization and poise. Your kid who went to a LMC public school will forever be an interloper an Ivy. Hopefully they are prepared enough to finish a useful major, but that’s unlikely. Kids who went to independent schools dominate the Greek life, secret society & eating club scenes no matter where they go to college.

Omg

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that these kids get into Yale from their so-called "inadequate" public schools is a testament to the fact that our fears of public schools are irrational.

dp Well, the colleges do need to fill a diversity spot so there is that. And the kids who were top of there poor public school are usually way out of their league when they go to an Ivy. This is not to say that the student didn't work hard but, when you have limited resources and rowdy classmates along with more inexperienced teachers you are going to miss a lot. And remember all those feel good teachers like "Stand and Deliver" They wouldn't be allowed to do what he did. ( Jamie Escalante)