Teacher dictating which parts of daughter's lunch she can eat in which order?

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen anybody else say lunch policing by teachers happens at their school. So this is a problem happening to the family of one person. Is that really worth 27 pages of criticizing teachers?

It’s not criticizing teachers if no other teachers are doing it. (At least one teacher on the thread does follow a dessert last model though.
It’s a debate in part about the importance of healthy feeding approaches versus just following rules no matter how misguided.
Plenty of people think parents should just suck it up and tell their dc to do what the teacher says.
Other parents don’t want teachers imparting unhealthy attitudes about food to their children.

Teachers are great and I am thankful for my child’s teachers every day. They don’t need the extra burden of policing kids food though and some parents don’t want them to so really not sure what the problem is - less work for teachers, happier parents, no unhealthy rules - win win win all around

Win win = don't send cookies, even "healthy" ones. There have been a lot of posts advocating the opposite. That's lose lose lose.

That’s not “win-win” it’s keeping a child from having part of her lunch for no reason other than to give the teacher the opportunity to make unhealthy rules that’s a lose for all the students and no one really benefits because this teacher will eventually have a student whose food she cannot police due to allergies or religious constrains. She has to either learn good boundaries around her students food now or then.

The way you've been stuffing this down everyone's throats for 27 pages makes it hard to imagine you are so Laissez-faire about your child's eating habits.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen anybody else say lunch policing by teachers happens at their school. So this is a problem happening to the family of one person. Is that really worth 27 pages of criticizing teachers?

It’s not criticizing teachers if no other teachers are doing it. (At least one teacher on the thread does follow a dessert last model though.
It’s a debate in part about the importance of healthy feeding approaches versus just following rules no matter how misguided.
Plenty of people think parents should just suck it up and tell their dc to do what the teacher says.
Other parents don’t want teachers imparting unhealthy attitudes about food to their children.

Teachers are great and I am thankful for my child’s teachers every day. They don’t need the extra burden of policing kids food though and some parents don’t want them to so really not sure what the problem is - less work for teachers, happier parents, no unhealthy rules - win win win all around

Win win = don't send cookies, even "healthy" ones. There have been a lot of posts advocating the opposite. That's lose lose lose.

That’s not “win-win” it’s keeping a child from having part of her lunch for no reason other than to give the teacher the opportunity to make unhealthy rules that’s a lose for all the students and no one really benefits because this teacher will eventually have a student whose food she cannot police due to allergies or religious constrains. She has to either learn good boundaries around her students food now or then.

The way you've been stuffing this down everyone's throats for 27 pages makes it hard to imagine you are so Laissez-faire about your child's eating habits.

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[Anonymous]

I would speak up. The teacher or lunch monitor doesn’t dictate these things. It’s not like you sent Doritos, skittles and a Mountain Dew and tried to call it lunch. I would be very clear that DD is in charge of her lunch and food consumption within the allotted times for lunch and that it’s not school policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cant help but wonder if the title were: Re:Teacher dictating which parts of son's lunch he can eat in which order? if the responses would be different. More akin to

no way hes a growing boy
my son needs energy, he is in sports every day of the week
its just oats and bananas!
my son needs fiber for better poops!

whereas because its a girl its okay to police their food. I would actually be interested to know if all of the parents who emailed her had daughters.

I have only sons. I think OP and all her supporters on this thread are idiots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cant help but wonder if the title were: Re:Teacher dictating which parts of son's lunch he can eat in which order? if the responses would be different. More akin to

no way hes a growing boy
my son needs energy, he is in sports every day of the week
its just oats and bananas!
my son needs fiber for better poops!

whereas because its a girl its okay to police their food. I would actually be interested to know if all of the parents who emailed her had daughters.

Probably. It is also probably true that the teacher wouldn’t police the boys food as much because of course boys will be boys and eat their dessert first.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would send only cookies the next day.

Childish. Maybe OP should be the one going to preschool, if she wants to act like a 3 year old...

Better yet. Send in actual cookies - a whole package of Oreos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen anybody else say lunch policing by teachers happens at their school. So this is a problem happening to the family of one person. Is that really worth 27 pages of criticizing teachers?

It’s not criticizing teachers if no other teachers are doing it. (At least one teacher on the thread does follow a dessert last model though.
It’s a debate in part about the importance of healthy feeding approaches versus just following rules no matter how misguided.
Plenty of people think parents should just suck it up and tell their dc to do what the teacher says.
Other parents don’t want teachers imparting unhealthy attitudes about food to their children.

Teachers are great and I am thankful for my child’s teachers every day. They don’t need the extra burden of policing kids food though and some parents don’t want them to so really not sure what the problem is - less work for teachers, happier parents, no unhealthy rules - win win win all around

Win win = don't send cookies, even "healthy" ones. There have been a lot of posts advocating the opposite. That's lose lose lose.

That’s not “win-win” it’s keeping a child from having part of her lunch for no reason other than to give the teacher the opportunity to make unhealthy rules that’s a lose for all the students and no one really benefits because this teacher will eventually have a student whose food she cannot police due to allergies or religious constrains. She has to either learn good boundaries around her students food now or then.

Sensible preschools (and elementary schools) prohibit candy and cookies/sweets. Saves so many headaches for everyone.

Omg. Do schools do that? So fcked up.

Anyway, irrelevant because OP’s “cookies” aren’t candy/sweets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cant help but wonder if the title were: Re:Teacher dictating which parts of son's lunch he can eat in which order? if the responses would be different. More akin to

no way hes a growing boy
my son needs energy, he is in sports every day of the week
its just oats and bananas!
my son needs fiber for better poops!

whereas because its a girl its okay to police their food. I would actually be interested to know if all of the parents who emailed her had daughters.

I have only sons. I think OP and all her supporters on this thread are idiots.

I have sons as well. I know you are an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would send only cookies the next day.

Childish. Maybe OP should be the one going to preschool, if she wants to act like a 3 year old...

Better yet. Send in actual cookies - a whole package of Oreos.

Or send in only a sandwich (chocolate marshmallow, of course) and a fruit (one of those 100% fruit strips that are all sugar) and maybe sliced apples with caramel dip and then the teacher can reassess her idea of what constitutes a healthy lunch. Also your kid will be in heaven that day

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:44 year old Preschool teacher here: I also teach that we eat our protein and veg/fruit first because that is filling. The dessert/sweet treats are always saved for last. When we talk about nutrition, we discuss foods we want to eat more of vs foods we want to eat in moderation.

Using sweet foods as a reward is a terrible idea.

The teachers want the kids to eat the most filling items first because they know many of them won’t finish their lunch because of visiting and nonsense and the teacher would like kids who aren’t hungry later. They learn better and behave better when they aren’t hungry . If you have this much angst about teaching that dessert is last you are not gonna like some of the other stuff kids are taught in school. You gotta start letting go and choose your battles.

I would always choose the battle where my 4 y/o isn’t learning potentially damaging and nutritionally useless “rules” just because a teacher doesn’t want to manage her classroom at lunch. Six year olds in this country think they need to go on diets.

Oh boy are you in for a rough 12 years. I recommend you homeschool if you don’t want your kids learning or being exposed to any ideas that are even slightly different than yours. Also don’t worry, your child’s friends will help her learn how to have food and body issues oh and they will also learn weird stuff about sex.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:44 year old Preschool teacher here: I also teach that we eat our protein and veg/fruit first because that is filling. The dessert/sweet treats are always saved for last. When we talk about nutrition, we discuss foods we want to eat more of vs foods we want to eat in moderation.

Using sweet foods as a reward is a terrible idea.

The teachers want the kids to eat the most filling items first because they know many of them won’t finish their lunch because of visiting and nonsense and the teacher would like kids who aren’t hungry later. They learn better and behave better when they aren’t hungry . If you have this much angst about teaching that dessert is last you are not gonna like some of the other stuff kids are taught in school. You gotta start letting go and choose your battles.

I would always choose the battle where my 4 y/o isn’t learning potentially damaging and nutritionally useless “rules” just because a teacher doesn’t want to manage her classroom at lunch. Six year olds in this country think they need to go on diets.

Oh boy are you in for a rough 12 years. I recommend you homeschool if you don’t want your kids learning or being exposed to any ideas that are even slightly different than yours. Also don’t worry, your child’s friends will help her learn how to have food and body issues oh and they will also learn weird stuff about sex.

Not at four she won’t, she’d only pick up on weird food neurosis from adults around her at this age.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:44 year old Preschool teacher here: I also teach that we eat our protein and veg/fruit first because that is filling. The dessert/sweet treats are always saved for last. When we talk about nutrition, we discuss foods we want to eat more of vs foods we want to eat in moderation.

Using sweet foods as a reward is a terrible idea.

The teachers want the kids to eat the most filling items first because they know many of them won’t finish their lunch because of visiting and nonsense and the teacher would like kids who aren’t hungry later. They learn better and behave better when they aren’t hungry . If you have this much angst about teaching that dessert is last you are not gonna like some of the other stuff kids are taught in school. You gotta start letting go and choose your battles.

I would always choose the battle where my 4 y/o isn’t learning potentially damaging and nutritionally useless “rules” just because a teacher doesn’t want to manage her classroom at lunch. Six year olds in this country think they need to go on diets.

Oh boy are you in for a rough 12 years. I recommend you homeschool if you don’t want your kids learning or being exposed to any ideas that are even slightly different than yours. Also don’t worry, your child’s friends will help her learn how to have food and body issues oh and they will also learn weird stuff about sex.

Not at four she won’t, she’d only pick up on weird food neurosis from adults around her at this age.

Different people do different things. She may go to a friend's house where they eat nothing but junk or eat super healthy and allow no dessert. You cannot raise your child in a bubble where you are the only influence. If you want to ensure that the only messages your child receives are those with which you agree then any kind of group setting is a poor choice. When you join a group, you make all kinds of compromises. Trust me there is a 4 year old in the class who is already talking about being skinny that she got from her mom. These orthorexic moms are doing as much damage as the other side of the spectrum. To operate in the the world, the child needs to be exposed to and learn how to consider all kinds of information. The mom could say 'some people think you should eat dessert last, but we don't. Do what they say at school and at home we do what we do." It is one meal of the day. Wait until you find out that kids can't read at recess or play tag and first graders can't go on the gym equipment or they can't go outside if it is cold. We modify ourselves in groups to help the whole group get along. It is not all about you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:44 year old Preschool teacher here: I also teach that we eat our protein and veg/fruit first because that is filling. The dessert/sweet treats are always saved for last. When we talk about nutrition, we discuss foods we want to eat more of vs foods we want to eat in moderation.

Using sweet foods as a reward is a terrible idea.

The teachers want the kids to eat the most filling items first because they know many of them won’t finish their lunch because of visiting and nonsense and the teacher would like kids who aren’t hungry later. They learn better and behave better when they aren’t hungry . If you have this much angst about teaching that dessert is last you are not gonna like some of the other stuff kids are taught in school. You gotta start letting go and choose your battles.

I would always choose the battle where my 4 y/o isn’t learning potentially damaging and nutritionally useless “rules” just because a teacher doesn’t want to manage her classroom at lunch. Six year olds in this country think they need to go on diets.

Oh boy are you in for a rough 12 years. I recommend you homeschool if you don’t want your kids learning or being exposed to any ideas that are even slightly different than yours. Also don’t worry, your child’s friends will help her learn how to have food and body issues oh and they will also learn weird stuff about sex.

Not at four she won’t, she’d only pick up on weird food neurosis from adults around her at this age.

Different people do different things. She may go to a friend's house where they eat nothing but junk or eat super healthy and allow no dessert. You cannot raise your child in a bubble where you are the only influence. If you want to ensure that the only messages your child receives are those with which you agree then any kind of group setting is a poor choice. When you join a group, you make all kinds of compromises. Trust me there is a 4 year old in the class who is already talking about being skinny that she got from her mom. These orthorexic moms are doing as much damage as the other side of the spectrum. To operate in the the world, the child needs to be exposed to and learn how to consider all kinds of information. The mom could say 'some people think you should eat dessert last, but we don't. Do what they say at school and at home we do what we do." It is one meal of the day. Wait until you find out that kids can't read at recess or play tag and first graders can't go on the gym equipment or they can't go outside if it is cold. We modify ourselves in groups to help the whole group get along. It is not all about you.

No it’s not, which is why working with the teacher/school to change it the policy to a healthier one will benefit all kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:44 year old Preschool teacher here: I also teach that we eat our protein and veg/fruit first because that is filling. The dessert/sweet treats are always saved for last. When we talk about nutrition, we discuss foods we want to eat more of vs foods we want to eat in moderation.

Using sweet foods as a reward is a terrible idea.

The teachers want the kids to eat the most filling items first because they know many of them won’t finish their lunch because of visiting and nonsense and the teacher would like kids who aren’t hungry later. They learn better and behave better when they aren’t hungry . If you have this much angst about teaching that dessert is last you are not gonna like some of the other stuff kids are taught in school. You gotta start letting go and choose your battles.

I would always choose the battle where my 4 y/o isn’t learning potentially damaging and nutritionally useless “rules” just because a teacher doesn’t want to manage her classroom at lunch. Six year olds in this country think they need to go on diets.

Oh boy are you in for a rough 12 years. I recommend you homeschool if you don’t want your kids learning or being exposed to any ideas that are even slightly different than yours. Also don’t worry, your child’s friends will help her learn how to have food and body issues oh and they will also learn weird stuff about sex.

Not at four she won’t, she’d only pick up on weird food neurosis from adults around her at this age.

She's going to see what other people call cookies and not want to eat the baked oatmeal disks anymore. She'll throw them away and beg for Oreos from her classmates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:44 year old Preschool teacher here: I also teach that we eat our protein and veg/fruit first because that is filling. The dessert/sweet treats are always saved for last. When we talk about nutrition, we discuss foods we want to eat more of vs foods we want to eat in moderation.

Using sweet foods as a reward is a terrible idea.

The teachers want the kids to eat the most filling items first because they know many of them won’t finish their lunch because of visiting and nonsense and the teacher would like kids who aren’t hungry later. They learn better and behave better when they aren’t hungry . If you have this much angst about teaching that dessert is last you are not gonna like some of the other stuff kids are taught in school. You gotta start letting go and choose your battles.

I would always choose the battle where my 4 y/o isn’t learning potentially damaging and nutritionally useless “rules” just because a teacher doesn’t want to manage her classroom at lunch. Six year olds in this country think they need to go on diets.

Oh boy are you in for a rough 12 years. I recommend you homeschool if you don’t want your kids learning or being exposed to any ideas that are even slightly different than yours. Also don’t worry, your child’s friends will help her learn how to have food and body issues oh and they will also learn weird stuff about sex.

Not at four she won’t, she’d only pick up on weird food neurosis from adults around her at this age.

Different people do different things. She may go to a friend's house where they eat nothing but junk or eat super healthy and allow no dessert. You cannot raise your child in a bubble where you are the only influence. If you want to ensure that the only messages your child receives are those with which you agree then any kind of group setting is a poor choice. When you join a group, you make all kinds of compromises. Trust me there is a 4 year old in the class who is already talking about being skinny that she got from her mom. These orthorexic moms are doing as much damage as the other side of the spectrum. To operate in the the world, the child needs to be exposed to and learn how to consider all kinds of information. The mom could say 'some people think you should eat dessert last, but we don't. Do what they say at school and at home we do what we do." It is one meal of the day. Wait until you find out that kids can't read at recess or play tag and first graders can't go on the gym equipment or they can't go outside if it is cold. We modify ourselves in groups to help the whole group get along. It is not all about you.

No it’s not, which is why working with the teacher/school to change it the policy to a healthier one will benefit all kids.

You DO realize that there is another parent who thinks that dessert should be banned. there is another parent who thinks kids are fine eating nothing but lunchables and a twix? That's why you leave it up to the teacher to manage his or her classroom in the best way for them. They aren't doing a unit on good and bad food, they are just trying to get everyone fed in the most expeditious way.