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I think so much has changed since Diana died that it doesn't matter anymore. If Camilla is still alive when Charles ascends then she will be known as Queen. Given their history, the BRF doesn't have a moral leg 5o stand on.
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DP: And my point is that if she had had a normal, loving marriage with a faithful husband — or at least an honest one — she likely would not have had affairs. The horror here is not that Diana didn’t make “better choices” but that she didn’t have better choices to make. So yes, if Charles —and Camilla — had been decent human beings, the outcomes would, indeed, have been better for Diana and for her kids, and possibly even for Charles and Camilla themselves. The adults in the room knew quite well what they were doing. They just didn’t care. |
I don't think Charles was a perfect father but I also think that his parenting reflects the customs of his social set. Most boys were sent to boarding school at that time, it's not just his sons. Even Diana was on record that he is a good father. You also have to think about all the ways in which Diana, who undoubtedly loved her children and cared for them, did things that were not appropriate or not supportive of their mental wellbeing. I prefer to think about their parenting as two flawed people making flawed choices but loving parents nevertheless. There is certainly no doubt that Harry and William were loved and supported, to the best of their ability, by their grandparents, uncles and aunts. |
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She certainly didn't have to have affairs with married men, no? I get that Diana was traumatized early on, and that her marriage didn't go the way she thought it would. She and Charles were just SO mismatched. But she learned to manipulate the media very well, and that was certainly a choice, it wasn't something that was forced upon her. Maybe the best outcome would have been for her and Charles to come to terms early on, and be friendly and cordial but pursue their interests discreetly, while presenting a united parenting front to the children. But Diana was too unstable, and Charles too selfish for that. |
| All of this makes me wonder about Charles’s role as Defender of the Faith. Is this something that most people take seriously? As in, while having a morally flawed politician might feel acceptable, this might feel quite different when viewing Charles’s role as a religious one, and all of that is very tangled up with the very public history of Charles and Camilla’s relationship. |
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I think this is why there was so much resistance to Charles and Diana getting divorced until it was clear there was no way they could stay married. |
| If that hoe becomes queen, then I will throw my support behind British republicans and build a shrine to Oliver Cromwell. I'll post pictures of my Cromwell shrine on Instagram everyday and tag Charles and Camilla. |
If Diana were alive, had remarried and happy, it would be easier to accept. |
| FYI - when Charles becomes King he could easily have given Camilla the title of Queen. Elizabeth’s blessing is all that is being given. She’ll do anything for her boys so I’m sure Charles told Elizabeth he was going to do it. Her giving her blessing is what’s best for the firm to continue. |
Totally agree! And Diana is gone and not here to defend herself when movies + tv portray her mental state in such a harsh light. |
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Very risky for the monarchy to make her Queen consort …
Camille is tolerated but not loved by the public |
| One wonders if Camilla would be better liked if she was younger and prettier. I think the fact she was homely and anti-glamor worked against her. Just like Diana's good looks worked in her favor. |
She was a blonde, thin, young woman with an Earl for a dad. There’s no reason to think that if she had had the opportunity to date before getting engaged at 19 (!!!) she couldn’t have found someone else to give her an opulent lifestyle as well. |