What are your honest opinions of Camilla Parker Bowles today in 2022 ?

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Anonymous wrote:My opinion is that having an affair with a married man, much less one with children is despicable. I think having an affair when you are married and breaking your vows shows an utter lack of honor. I think a mother putting her selfish desires over her children’s happiness and security is unconscionable. I don’t think anybody who behaves thusly should be granted a position of honor.

However, it is really none of my business. William and Harry, who were impacted seem to have established a relationship with her. If they can forgive her, and wish for her to be acknowledged in this matter, I think their wishes should be respected. Moreover, the British monarch, as I understand it is largely a ceremonial position and the consort has even less power. Finally, I think as foul as Charles and Camilla behaved in their previous marriages, compared to historical precedents set by earlier heads of state (both British and international), their transgressions pale in significance.

I do find it bizarre that the marriage between Charles and Camilla could have been problematic because of their histories of divorce and the future role of Charles as the head of the Church of England when the Church of England was essentially established to allow Henry VIII to divorce and remarry.


William and Harry accept her to make their father happy. I believe they stated that when the engagement was announced.


Well, what else would you expect them to say on record? About their Dad who will be king and who holds the purse strings? It might even be true.
Anonymous
I know we can’t get a screenplay by Shakespeare, but the musical version of all of this will be wild.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If Harry and William were not members of the Royal Family, they would absolutely be estranged from their father and Camilla. I know people who are estranged from their parents for much less trauma.

Lets look at all the ways Charles screwed up their childhoods:
-Carried on an affair with a long standing mistress
-Exacerbated and took advantage of their mother's mental illness/fragility
-Emotionally distant, sent them off to boarding schools
-Contributed to the death of their mother

Would you stick by your father through all this crap he inflicted on your family?


Exactly. And in fact, this was indirectly why Harry estranged the royal family. He clearly did NOT trust his dad and he wasn't going to let his new wife eat crap the way his mother did.

Sure, Meghan Markle is probably a narcissist herself - doesn't excuse the British Royal Family has done though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Camilla triggers people because the mistress won and the poor wronged spouse ended up dying young. There is a sense of injustice about the whole situation and Camilla does always look like the proverbial cat who got the cream.


This is actually pretty much how this news made me feel. Like a PP said, I don't care about the royal family and I don't follow news about them. I don't know the names of William's kids or Harry's kids or really anything about their lives. But even as someone who never follows the tabloids, one thing that sticks in my mind is that Camilla is a mistress and Charles is an adulterer.

It's really unfair that after everything Diana went through, she ends up dead and the Rottweiller gets the crown. That just seems...evil and wrong. Like on a gut level.
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It’s all just so tidy for her isn’t it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Camilla triggers people because the mistress won and the poor wronged spouse ended up dying young. There is a sense of injustice about the whole situation and Camilla does always look like the proverbial cat who got the cream.


I think you're partly right. People forget how unstable she acted. The interviews telling the press about Charles and Camilla and releasing info. for pay back at the monarchy. She became her own worse enemy. She was a very needy person who had countless affairs with other creeps who didn't care she was a married princess. Early on she should have let Charles spend time with Camilla. In fact be happy he was out of her hair, and realized she had nothing in common with him. Whereby Camilla did. Enjoyed the status of her position, and stayed married. Charles would have agreed to that. Her constant need to outdo him, and embarrass the family was the beginning of the end for her. Then she ends up with another creep (cheater) who was suppose to be married in a few days to another woman. And she's in a speeding car with idiots while not wearing a seat belt . Plus she should have had her own security detail, but again another one of her poor judgement calls.

She thought happiness was with other men instead of herself. She could have continued to outshine Charles in the press, and enjoyed her kids and the life she had. If she had better psychology she would have outsmarted Camilla and Charles, and would have been the queen herself.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I know we can’t get a screenplay by Shakespeare, but the musical version of all of this will be wild.

The reviews were pretty bad.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Camilla triggers people because the mistress won and the poor wronged spouse ended up dying young. There is a sense of injustice about the whole situation and Camilla does always look like the proverbial cat who got the cream.


I think you're partly right. People forget how unstable she acted. The interviews telling the press about Charles and Camilla and releasing info. for pay back at the monarchy. She became her own worse enemy. She was a very needy person who had countless affairs with other creeps who didn't care she was a married princess. Early on she should have let Charles spend time with Camilla. In fact be happy he was out of her hair, and realized she had nothing in common with him. Whereby Camilla did. Enjoyed the status of her position, and stayed married. Charles would have agreed to that. Her constant need to outdo him, and embarrass the family was the beginning of the end for her. Then she ends up with another creep (cheater) who was suppose to be married in a few days to another woman. And she's in a speeding car with idiots while not wearing a seat belt . Plus she should have had her own security detail, but again another one of her poor judgement calls.

She thought happiness was with other men instead of herself. She could have continued to outshine Charles in the press, and enjoyed her kids and the life she had. If she had better psychology she would have outsmarted Camilla and Charles, and would have been the queen herself.

The no seat belt thing is not true. Feel free to google it. And if Charles expected all of that all he had to do was be honest from the beginning and find someone who is fine with that which he almost certainly could have found amongst his social set. The issue is he clearly wanted to marry someone young and virginal and they’re less likely to go for that. It’s not a personality flaw that she was upset that he changed the terms of the agreement. Also Camilla also thought happiness with other men! Except that other man was her ex husband and then her back burner dude was there when her situation didn’t work out. You’re acting like she has a ton of accomplishments on her own and just decided that it was time to find love. She has done absolutely nothing special with her life besides chase after Andrew Parker Bowles and PC.
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Anonymous wrote:TBF the only way Camilla's polling would be over the 13/14% in favor of her being Queen (and lets be real those are the hardline monarchists who would support a suicidal maniac on the throne), is if she jumped over a bridge and saved a toddler from drowning after putting out a fire with her bare hands.

She's been hanging around Charles since the 70s and Diana's been dead since the 90s. She will go to her grave despised and tolerated at best.


I think this sums up how people feel about the royal family in general. But as far as news goes, they have bigger fish to fry like Party Gate than spending too much time thinking about Camilla.


Eghhh you can wage two wars at the same time and what happens when you have a despised King and Queen on the throne with a despised Prime Minister and his third wife at the start of a true economic downturn thanks to Brexit which they've basically been putting on hold for two years? Fun. That's what happens.


Nobody expects Charlies to reign for very long so there isn't a lot of urgency where he is concerned. He might be 80 years old before he's crowned.


The Queen is 95 and as frail as nursing home residents who mysteriously die overnight. I'd be surprised if she makes to her husband's anniversary death date.

Regardless 4 years is more than enough time to wreck a country, let alone the decade I expect he'll rule just like Victoria's son (who wasn't anywhere near as hated).


How can the monarch ruin the country? They have no teeth.


Guess you have no idea it was Queen Elizabeth who ushered in Brexit in the first place when she prorogued Parliament (only the monarch has the power to do so). They don't like talking about that...I wonder why.


That's squarely on Boris Johnson.


With help from Nigel Farge
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Camilla triggers people because the mistress won and the poor wronged spouse ended up dying young. There is a sense of injustice about the whole situation and Camilla does always look like the proverbial cat who got the cream.


I think you're partly right. People forget how unstable she acted. The interviews telling the press about Charles and Camilla and releasing info. for pay back at the monarchy. She became her own worse enemy. She was a very needy person who had countless affairs with other creeps who didn't care she was a married princess. Early on she should have let Charles spend time with Camilla. In fact be happy he was out of her hair, and realized she had nothing in common with him. Whereby Camilla did. Enjoyed the status of her position, and stayed married. Charles would have agreed to that. Her constant need to outdo him, and embarrass the family was the beginning of the end for her. Then she ends up with another creep (cheater) who was suppose to be married in a few days to another woman. And she's in a speeding car with idiots while not wearing a seat belt . Plus she should have had her own security detail, but again another one of her poor judgement calls.

She thought happiness was with other men instead of herself. She could have continued to outshine Charles in the press, and enjoyed her kids and the life she had. If she had better psychology she would have outsmarted Camilla and Charles, and would have been the queen herself.

The no seat belt thing is not true. Feel free to google it. And if Charles expected all of that all he had to do was be honest from the beginning and find someone who is fine with that which he almost certainly could have found amongst his social set. The issue is he clearly wanted to marry someone young and virginal and they’re less likely to go for that. It’s not a personality flaw that she was upset that he changed the terms of the agreement. Also Camilla also thought happiness with other men! Except that other man was her ex husband and then her back burner dude was there when her situation didn’t work out. You’re acting like she has a ton of accomplishments on her own and just decided that it was time to find love. She has done absolutely nothing special with her life besides chase after Andrew Parker Bowles and PC.


I looked again. Diana was NOT wearing a seat belt. Yes Charles should have been honest in the beginning, but I'm not sure that was his intended plan. I think he planned to be a dutiful husband until he couldn't, or wouldn't. Still Diana had a opulent lifestyle. The public enjoyed her more than Charles which ticked him off. Again non of these nitwit men were worth giving up all that. I think if she would have stayed and lived her son Harry would have better mental health. A lot of domino effect with the poor choices. Also, I agree about Camilla, but Diana had the ball and dropped it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If Harry and William were not members of the Royal Family, they would absolutely be estranged from their father and Camilla. I know people who are estranged from their parents for much less trauma.

Lets look at all the ways Charles screwed up their childhoods:
-Carried on an affair with a long standing mistress
-Exacerbated and took advantage of their mother's mental illness/fragility
-Emotionally distant, sent them off to boarding schools
-Contributed to the death of their mother

Would you stick by your father through all this crap he inflicted on your family?


Would they stick by a mother who regularly abandoned them to the father you think they despise so that she could swan off with her latest lover? British men, especially, have a saint and slut version of women. Wonder where Diana falls on that scale with her sons. Even the most devoted son would question their mother’s behavior.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Charles wants to be her tampon. That makes her the c^^t, no?


C*nt doesn’t mean what you think it does in the UK. It is highly derogatory here, but not there and does not solely refer to a woman’s vagina. It is routinely used to describe men or women who are jerks. The better word is “Fanny.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Camilla triggers people because the mistress won and the poor wronged spouse ended up dying young. There is a sense of injustice about the whole situation and Camilla does always look like the proverbial cat who got the cream.


I think you're partly right. People forget how unstable she acted. The interviews telling the press about Charles and Camilla and releasing info. for pay back at the monarchy. She became her own worse enemy. She was a very needy person who had countless affairs with other creeps who didn't care she was a married princess. Early on she should have let Charles spend time with Camilla. In fact be happy he was out of her hair, and realized she had nothing in common with him. Whereby Camilla did. Enjoyed the status of her position, and stayed married. Charles would have agreed to that. Her constant need to outdo him, and embarrass the family was the beginning of the end for her. Then she ends up with another creep (cheater) who was suppose to be married in a few days to another woman. And she's in a speeding car with idiots while not wearing a seat belt . Plus she should have had her own security detail, but again another one of her poor judgement calls.

She thought happiness was with other men instead of herself. She could have continued to outshine Charles in the press, and enjoyed her kids and the life she had. If she had better psychology she would have outsmarted Camilla and Charles, and would have been the queen herself.

The no seat belt thing is not true. Feel free to google it. And if Charles expected all of that all he had to do was be honest from the beginning and find someone who is fine with that which he almost certainly could have found amongst his social set. The issue is he clearly wanted to marry someone young and virginal and they’re less likely to go for that. It’s not a personality flaw that she was upset that he changed the terms of the agreement. Also Camilla also thought happiness with other men! Except that other man was her ex husband and then her back burner dude was there when her situation didn’t work out. You’re acting like she has a ton of accomplishments on her own and just decided that it was time to find love. She has done absolutely nothing special with her life besides chase after Andrew Parker Bowles and PC.


I looked again. Diana was NOT wearing a seat belt. Yes Charles should have been honest in the beginning, but I'm not sure that was his intended plan. I think he planned to be a dutiful husband until he couldn't, or wouldn't. Still Diana had a opulent lifestyle. The public enjoyed her more than Charles which ticked him off. Again non of these nitwit men were worth giving up all that. I think if she would have stayed and lived her son Harry would have better mental health. A lot of domino effect with the poor choices. Also, I agree about Camilla, but Diana had the ball and dropped it.

Or Diana might have lived and continued to make inappropriate choices in men and poking the BRF and her son would have still had issues, torn between his mother and his duty.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Camilla triggers people because the mistress won and the poor wronged spouse ended up dying young. There is a sense of injustice about the whole situation and Camilla does always look like the proverbial cat who got the cream.


I think you're partly right. People forget how unstable she acted. The interviews telling the press about Charles and Camilla and releasing info. for pay back at the monarchy. She became her own worse enemy. She was a very needy person who had countless affairs with other creeps who didn't care she was a married princess. Early on she should have let Charles spend time with Camilla. In fact be happy he was out of her hair, and realized she had nothing in common with him. Whereby Camilla did. Enjoyed the status of her position, and stayed married. Charles would have agreed to that. Her constant need to outdo him, and embarrass the family was the beginning of the end for her. Then she ends up with another creep (cheater) who was suppose to be married in a few days to another woman. And she's in a speeding car with idiots while not wearing a seat belt . Plus she should have had her own security detail, but again another one of her poor judgement calls.

She thought happiness was with other men instead of herself. She could have continued to outshine Charles in the press, and enjoyed her kids and the life she had. If she had better psychology she would have outsmarted Camilla and Charles, and would have been the queen herself.

The no seat belt thing is not true. Feel free to google it. And if Charles expected all of that all he had to do was be honest from the beginning and find someone who is fine with that which he almost certainly could have found amongst his social set. The issue is he clearly wanted to marry someone young and virginal and they’re less likely to go for that. It’s not a personality flaw that she was upset that he changed the terms of the agreement. Also Camilla also thought happiness with other men! Except that other man was her ex husband and then her back burner dude was there when her situation didn’t work out. You’re acting like she has a ton of accomplishments on her own and just decided that it was time to find love. She has done absolutely nothing special with her life besides chase after Andrew Parker Bowles and PC.


I looked again. Diana was NOT wearing a seat belt. Yes Charles should have been honest in the beginning, but I'm not sure that was his intended plan. I think he planned to be a dutiful husband until he couldn't, or wouldn't. Still Diana had a opulent lifestyle. The public enjoyed her more than Charles which ticked him off. Again non of these nitwit men were worth giving up all that. I think if she would have stayed and lived her son Harry would have better mental health. A lot of domino effect with the poor choices. Also, I agree about Camilla, but Diana had the ball and dropped it.

Or Diana might have lived and continued to make inappropriate choices in men and poking the BRF and her son would have still had issues, torn between his mother and his duty.


My point was she never should have had affairs, and of course made better choices. Then the outcome I believe would have been much better. For her kids as well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Camilla triggers people because the mistress won and the poor wronged spouse ended up dying young. There is a sense of injustice about the whole situation and Camilla does always look like the proverbial cat who got the cream.


I think you're partly right. People forget how unstable she acted. The interviews telling the press about Charles and Camilla and releasing info. for pay back at the monarchy. She became her own worse enemy. She was a very needy person who had countless affairs with other creeps who didn't care she was a married princess. Early on she should have let Charles spend time with Camilla. In fact be happy he was out of her hair, and realized she had nothing in common with him. Whereby Camilla did. Enjoyed the status of her position, and stayed married. Charles would have agreed to that. Her constant need to outdo him, and embarrass the family was the beginning of the end for her. Then she ends up with another creep (cheater) who was suppose to be married in a few days to another woman. And she's in a speeding car with idiots while not wearing a seat belt . Plus she should have had her own security detail, but again another one of her poor judgement calls.

She thought happiness was with other men instead of herself. She could have continued to outshine Charles in the press, and enjoyed her kids and the life she had. If she had better psychology she would have outsmarted Camilla and Charles, and would have been the queen herself.

The no seat belt thing is not true. Feel free to google it. And if Charles expected all of that all he had to do was be honest from the beginning and find someone who is fine with that which he almost certainly could have found amongst his social set. The issue is he clearly wanted to marry someone young and virginal and they’re less likely to go for that. It’s not a personality flaw that she was upset that he changed the terms of the agreement. Also Camilla also thought happiness with other men! Except that other man was her ex husband and then her back burner dude was there when her situation didn’t work out. You’re acting like she has a ton of accomplishments on her own and just decided that it was time to find love. She has done absolutely nothing special with her life besides chase after Andrew Parker Bowles and PC.


I looked again. Diana was NOT wearing a seat belt. Yes Charles should have been honest in the beginning, but I'm not sure that was his intended plan. I think he planned to be a dutiful husband until he couldn't, or wouldn't. Still Diana had a opulent lifestyle. The public enjoyed her more than Charles which ticked him off. Again non of these nitwit men were worth giving up all that. I think if she would have stayed and lived her son Harry would have better mental health. A lot of domino effect with the poor choices. Also, I agree about Camilla, but Diana had the ball and dropped it.


I dunno. When your father is on record as not loving your mother — whatever ‘love’ means — that has to screw with your sense of yourself and well-being in some damaging and possibly permanent ways. So the domino effect that Charles’s poor behavior set into play could have been avoided if he had just been honest with a naive teenager about what “marriage” really meant to him. An opulent lifestyle really isn’t an acceptable trade — off in any way — for lying, deceiving and gaslighting a vulnerable teenager.
Why do you think Charles “planned to be a dutiful husband “? Was it the gift to Camilla that Diana found on their honeymoon? Allowing Camilla to “befriend” Diana during their courtship and early marriage? Charles deliberately did a lot of twisted, nasty stuff. What “ball” did Diana have?
It’s sad that Charles and his handlers sought out Diana just so she could be sacrificed for their plan for heirs.
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