UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Things are getting weird.

I think this is supposed to be a dark edgy humor thing. Gen Z is quite depressed and desensitized to violence and are not afraid of telling a messed up joke.

I didn’t click the link (do I want to see whatever it is? Probably not). Just observing that Gen X grew up practicing for the moment when someone would enter their school and gun them and their friends and teachers down. Meanwhile, they watched this very thing happen again and again to kids just like them. Month after month, year after year, for their whole lives, we as a society said “gun violence is ordinary, good luck out there.”

Desensitized? I mean…yeah. Did we think they somehow wouldn’t be?

THIS. THIS. THIS.

After mass shootings of children and other citizens going about their daily lives we've been told by the gun rights advocates that it's the "price of freedom." We have an absolutely fetishistic gun culture in this country and if you shoot the right person you can get off scot free. I am sorry Brian Thompson was killed. I am sorry for his family. I believe a crime was committed and it was wrong. But the shocked articles and hand-wringing and lecturing are over the top. We've spent over 25 years telling school kids that gun violence is just something that happens in America/it's not a big deal, what did we expect?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we stop portraying Thompson as this aw shucks Midwestern husband and father? He had been living apart from his wife for years, was being investigated for insider trading, and probably had to step on at least 50 people to get his job

Not to mention all the people dead because of his policies.

You mean dead because companies buy crap plans for their employees and then blame the insurer? You mean dead because hospitals and doctors upcode and charge ridiculous prices for mere moments of clinicians time? You mean dead because doctors and surgeons continual prescribe meds and procedures that people don’t need and in some cases could kill them? There’s so many fingers in the pie my man. If hospitals and doctors acted appropriately there would be no need for the insurance companies.

Give it up, health insurance shill. Nobody buys the nonsense you are selling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we stop portraying Thompson as this aw shucks Midwestern husband and father? He had been living apart from his wife for years, was being investigated for insider trading, and probably had to step on at least 50 people to get his job

Wrong

What, precisely, is wrong about what PP wrote? Please be specific.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we stop portraying Thompson as this aw shucks Midwestern husband and father? He had been living apart from his wife for years, was being investigated for insider trading, and probably had to step on at least 50 people to get his job

Not to mention all the people dead because of his policies.

You mean dead because companies buy crap plans for their employees and then blame the insurer? You mean dead because hospitals and doctors upcode and charge ridiculous prices for mere moments of clinicians time? You mean dead because doctors and surgeons continual prescribe meds and procedures that people don’t need and in some cases could kill them? There’s so many fingers in the pie my man. If hospitals and doctors acted appropriately there would be no need for the insurance companies.

Give it up, health insurance shill. Nobody buys the nonsense you are selling.

DP. They are right. And I have no ties to the insurance business but I do work in healthcare and can say what the PP is saying is true

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we stop portraying Thompson as this aw shucks Midwestern husband and father? He had been living apart from his wife for years, was being investigated for insider trading, and probably had to step on at least 50 people to get his job

Not to mention all the people dead because of his policies.

You mean dead because companies buy crap plans for their employees and then blame the insurer? You mean dead because hospitals and doctors upcode and charge ridiculous prices for mere moments of clinicians time? You mean dead because doctors and surgeons continual prescribe meds and procedures that people don’t need and in some cases could kill them? There’s so many fingers in the pie my man. If hospitals and doctors acted appropriately there would be no need for the insurance companies.

Give it up, health insurance shill. Nobody buys the nonsense you are selling.

DP. They are right. And I have no ties to the insurance business but I do work in healthcare and can say what the PP is saying is true

The idea that insurance companies have clean hands here is outright laughable. My God.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And the United Healthcare parent co CEO writes an NYT op ed that says nothing. Did he use the free version of ChatGPT?
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/13/opinion/united-health-care-brian-thompson-luigi-mangione.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Wow. The comments are savage.

And that isn’t even close to what’s going on in TikTok and Instagram.

This also happened yesterday live on TV, you can look up the actual video:
“Piers Morgan stunned when pundit Briahna Joy Gray says she has no empathy for slain health care CEO: 'I find this staggering.’”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we stop portraying Thompson as this aw shucks Midwestern husband and father? He had been living apart from his wife for years, was being investigated for insider trading, and probably had to step on at least 50 people to get his job

Not to mention all the people dead because of his policies.

You mean dead because companies buy crap plans for their employees and then blame the insurer? You mean dead because hospitals and doctors upcode and charge ridiculous prices for mere moments of clinicians time? You mean dead because doctors and surgeons continual prescribe meds and procedures that people don’t need and in some cases could kill them? There’s so many fingers in the pie my man. If hospitals and doctors acted appropriately there would be no need for the insurance companies.

DP, but as I said like 20 pages ago, none of these things are okay, and all of these things— including for-profit insurance corporations like UHC — are connected by the same underlying problem, which is that as a nation we’ve turned health care into a commodity whose shares are bought and sold and whose primary purpose (legally defined in most cases) is growth of investor portfolios.

Yes, other aspects of the health system also happen to be problematic. And so is UHC’s entire business model. It’s not either/or.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the United Healthcare parent co CEO writes an NYT op ed that says nothing. Did he use the free version of ChatGPT?
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/13/opinion/united-health-care-brian-thompson-luigi-mangione.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Wow. The comments are savage.

And that isn’t even close to what’s going on in TikTok and Instagram.

This also happened yesterday live on TV, you can look up the actual video:
“Piers Morgan stunned when pundit Briahna Joy Gray says she has no empathy for slain health care CEO: 'I find this staggering.’”

The only people surprised by the reaction are wealthy people who are very insulated. So, yes, it makes sense Morgan was staggered. Now, Gray is a grifter so she’s just trying to get publicity but there is a genuine lack of concern here across the board that only the wealthy are shocked by.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can understand people not feeling moved by the grief of the UBC CEO’s kids but I have to say surprised people aren’t feeling some empathy about Luigi’s parents, whose incredibly bright and promising son has messed up his life beyond repair in the midst of a mental decompensation.

I feel sorry for Luigi and his family, yes.

Luigi can rot but i feel sorry for his family who were probably unable to help him.

+1

Agree, Pretty boy can rot.

Schizophrenia is awful and dangerous. If that is what he’s going through, I would like to see him get the help he needs and get out of prison in a couple of decades, after serving some time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can understand people not feeling moved by the grief of the UBC CEO’s kids but I have to say surprised people aren’t feeling some empathy about Luigi’s parents, whose incredibly bright and promising son has messed up his life beyond repair in the midst of a mental decompensation.

I feel sorry for Luigi and his family, yes.

Luigi can rot but i feel sorry for his family who were probably unable to help him.

+1

Agree, Pretty boy can rot.

Schizophrenia is awful and dangerous. If that is what he’s going through, I would like to see him get the help he needs and get out of prison in a couple of decades, after serving some time.

DP. This outcome would be palatable to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we stop portraying Thompson as this aw shucks Midwestern husband and father? He had been living apart from his wife for years, was being investigated for insider trading, and probably had to step on at least 50 people to get his job

Not to mention all the people dead because of his policies.

You mean dead because companies buy crap plans for their employees and then blame the insurer? You mean dead because hospitals and doctors upcode and charge ridiculous prices for mere moments of clinicians time? You mean dead because doctors and surgeons continual prescribe meds and procedures that people don’t need and in some cases could kill them? There’s so many fingers in the pie my man. If hospitals and doctors acted appropriately there would be no need for the insurance companies.

Give it up, health insurance shill. Nobody buys the nonsense you are selling.

Wow the depth of your rebuttal is breathtaking. Guess that’s what you do when you have no rebuttal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we stop portraying Thompson as this aw shucks Midwestern husband and father? He had been living apart from his wife for years, was being investigated for insider trading, and probably had to step on at least 50 people to get his job

Not to mention all the people dead because of his policies.

You mean dead because companies buy crap plans for their employees and then blame the insurer? You mean dead because hospitals and doctors upcode and charge ridiculous prices for mere moments of clinicians time? You mean dead because doctors and surgeons continual prescribe meds and procedures that people don’t need and in some cases could kill them? There’s so many fingers in the pie my man. If hospitals and doctors acted appropriately there would be no need for the insurance companies.

Give it up, health insurance shill. Nobody buys the nonsense you are selling.

DP. They are right. And I have no ties to the insurance business but I do work in healthcare and can say what the PP is saying is true

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Things are getting weird.

I think this is supposed to be a dark edgy humor thing. Gen Z is quite depressed and desensitized to violence and are not afraid of telling a messed up joke.

I didn’t click the link (do I want to see whatever it is? Probably not). Just observing that Gen X grew up practicing for the moment when someone would enter their school and gun them and their friends and teachers down. Meanwhile, they watched this very thing happen again and again to kids just like them. Month after month, year after year, for their whole lives, we as a society said “gun violence is ordinary, good luck out there.”

Desensitized? I mean…yeah. Did we think they somehow wouldn’t be?

THIS. THIS. THIS.

After mass shootings of children and other citizens going about their daily lives we've been told by the gun rights advocates that it's the "price of freedom." We have an absolutely fetishistic gun culture in this country and if you shoot the right person you can get off scot free. I am sorry Brian Thompson was killed. I am sorry for his family. I believe a crime was committed and it was wrong. But the shocked articles and hand-wringing and lecturing are over the top. We've spent over 25 years telling school kids that gun violence is just something that happens in America/it's not a big deal, what did we expect?

Every lockdown drill these kids are reminded that someone can come into their space and kill them and their peers at any moment and there isn’t much they can do about it. Think about the sheer amount of mass shooting tragedies that we have had in the past 25 years. I don’t even get surprised by them anymore, just disappointed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can understand people not feeling moved by the grief of the UBC CEO’s kids but I have to say surprised people aren’t feeling some empathy about Luigi’s parents, whose incredibly bright and promising son has messed up his life beyond repair in the midst of a mental decompensation.

I feel sorry for Luigi and his family, yes.

Luigi can rot but i feel sorry for his family who were probably unable to help him.

How do you think he found and hired his brand new, high powered NY attorney? And who is paying for her?

Lawyers that wealthy do it for fame.
But the family has the medical records so could have too. Who cares. He’s in prison forever and will be on drugs forever too so he doesn’t flip out on himself or others again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can understand people not feeling moved by the grief of the UBC CEO’s kids but I have to say surprised people aren’t feeling some empathy about Luigi’s parents, whose incredibly bright and promising son has messed up his life beyond repair in the midst of a mental decompensation.

I feel sorry for Luigi and his family, yes.

Luigi can rot but i feel sorry for his family who were probably unable to help him.

+1

Agree, Pretty boy can rot.

Schizophrenia is awful and dangerous. If that is what he’s going through, I would like to see him get the help he needs and get out of prison in a couple of decades, after serving some time.

Won’t get out of prison. Will have a “nicer” prison if truly hearing voices and nuts.