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I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.

Well, this statement intrigued me, so I googled and found the GFCA webinar with Robyn Lady. I heard nothing disparaging. I did hear lots of concerns about the shift, but not like that.

At one point, Robyn Lady brought up the demographics as the reason the school is rated lower. Someone did ask about the safety stats. The moderator mentioned (I am paraphrasing) that they might consider addressing that issue before shifting kids.
I've stated on this thread before that I have never heard anyone address fixing the problem at the struggling schools rather than covering it up with higher SES scoring kids.

Lady also mentioned that the teachers prefer teaching upper level classes. I did not hear anyone ask a question about how the school plans to staff the schools that get more kids as a result of boundary lines. (Teachers generally do not like being reassigned against their will.)

What about the insulting question "Does Herndon even meet the minimal requirements to offer AP courses"? Like really?

DP.

Oh my vapors.

You have boundary change proponents on here spewing racial slurs like they’re back in the 50s, but you’re upset at that question? Such transparently faux outrage.

The “boundary change proponents“ aren’t spewing racial slurs. In some instances they are ascribing views to Langley posters based on their past conduct and statements.

You aren’t fooling anyone, including the School Board, by suggesting otherwise. They know very well by now what you’re all about.

DP. But that is false, and everyone knows this. Langley posters aren't making racist statements, you are simply fabricating this (lying) to further your narrative. All we've said is that we do not want to switch schools. There is nothing at all racist about wanting to remain at a school rather than change. There's also nothing racist about comparing the test scores at both schools. It's people like you who are determined to make this into a racial issue when it is not.

What’s the comparison with kids of similar race? How are the white kids scores at Herndon? Asian?

It isn’t as simple as looking at overall scores and data.

Once again: it is YOU who is focused on race. Thanks for proving the point.

And why shouldn’t a parent focus on race? It is another factor when thinking about an environment.

I think is misguided, but I guess no objection from me if you want to focus on race. I was raised to believe in the fundamental principles of MLK to worry about content of one’s character, not skin color, but it seems that you disagree.

it is particularly pernicious for posters to outright lie by repeatedly claiming without evidence that Langley families are racist or posting racist things, when in reality it’s the exact opposite.

Langley posters will go to the mat to avoid sending their kids to a school with any significant number of Hispanic kids. MLK would be among the first to call you out were he alive today.

You are the literal embodiment of a race baiter.

Anyone can go back through this thread and see that you are the only one bringing up race. It’s clearly not Langley posters. 🙄

+1
At this point, I think it’s time to start reporting the race baiters. They make up
the vast majority of this thread.

LOL.

For context, here's a snippet of Robyn Lady's meeting with Langley parents back in June where you can hear them jeer when Robyn says that every school in FCPS offers a good education.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8V6Aest5Nx/

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The problem I see is that in this clip and in the Great Falls webinar, it is Robyn Lady who blames the problems on demographics.

I have posted this multiple times: Fix the problems where they are. The problems will not be solved by adding different kids. The SB is only interested in covering up the problems.

Fix the discipline issues before you move in more kids. That includes the truancy. Do they not care about the "good" kids that are already there? And, many of those "good" kids might be struggling academically. They deserve an education, too. Blaming it on demographics--as Lady does--is not the answer. I don't know if she is talking about economics or race--but it is troubling that she is blaming it on demographics.

I say this as someone who taught impoverished kids. You cannot teach if you don't have order in the classroom.

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I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.

Well, this statement intrigued me, so I googled and found the GFCA webinar with Robyn Lady. I heard nothing disparaging. I did hear lots of concerns about the shift, but not like that.

At one point, Robyn Lady brought up the demographics as the reason the school is rated lower. Someone did ask about the safety stats. The moderator mentioned (I am paraphrasing) that they might consider addressing that issue before shifting kids.
I've stated on this thread before that I have never heard anyone address fixing the problem at the struggling schools rather than covering it up with higher SES scoring kids.

Lady also mentioned that the teachers prefer teaching upper level classes. I did not hear anyone ask a question about how the school plans to staff the schools that get more kids as a result of boundary lines. (Teachers generally do not like being reassigned against their will.)

What about the insulting question "Does Herndon even meet the minimal requirements to offer AP courses"? Like really?

DP.

Oh my vapors.

You have boundary change proponents on here spewing racial slurs like they’re back in the 50s, but you’re upset at that question? Such transparently faux outrage.

The “boundary change proponents“ aren’t spewing racial slurs. In some instances they are ascribing views to Langley posters based on their past conduct and statements.

You aren’t fooling anyone, including the School Board, by suggesting otherwise. They know very well by now what you’re all about.

DP. But that is false, and everyone knows this. Langley posters aren't making racist statements, you are simply fabricating this (lying) to further your narrative. All we've said is that we do not want to switch schools. There is nothing at all racist about wanting to remain at a school rather than change. There's also nothing racist about comparing the test scores at both schools. It's people like you who are determined to make this into a racial issue when it is not.

What’s the comparison with kids of similar race? How are the white kids scores at Herndon? Asian?

It isn’t as simple as looking at overall scores and data.

Once again: it is YOU who is focused on race. Thanks for proving the point.

And why shouldn’t a parent focus on race? It is another factor when thinking about an environment.

I think is misguided, but I guess no objection from me if you want to focus on race. I was raised to believe in the fundamental principles of MLK to worry about content of one’s character, not skin color, but it seems that you disagree.

it is particularly pernicious for posters to outright lie by repeatedly claiming without evidence that Langley families are racist or posting racist things, when in reality it’s the exact opposite.

Langley posters will go to the mat to avoid sending their kids to a school with any significant number of Hispanic kids. MLK would be among the first to call you out were he alive today.

You are the literal embodiment of a race baiter.

Anyone can go back through this thread and see that you are the only one bringing up race. It’s clearly not Langley posters. 🙄

+1
At this point, I think it’s time to start reporting the race baiters. They make up
the vast majority of this thread.

LOL.

For context, here's a snippet of Robyn Lady's meeting with Langley parents back in June where you can hear them jeer when Robyn says that every school in FCPS offers a good education.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8V6Aest5Nx/

OMG, you found the smoking gun. Surely anyone who thinks there is variability among the Fcps schools is a die hard racist. 🙄

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem I see is that in this clip and in the Great Falls webinar, it is Robyn Lady who blames the problems on demographics.

I have posted this multiple times: Fix the problems where they are. The problems will not be solved by adding different kids. The SB is only interested in covering up the problems.

Fix the discipline issues before you move in more kids. That includes the truancy. Do they not care about the "good" kids that are already there? And, many of those "good" kids might be struggling academically. They deserve an education, too. Blaming it on demographics--as Lady does--is not the answer. I don't know if she is talking about economics or race--but it is troubling that she is blaming it on demographics.

I say this as someone who taught impoverished kids. You cannot teach if you don't have order in the classroom.

Robyn responded to questions where Langley posters brought up differences in test scores and disciplinary incidents between Langley and Herndon. The questions, as I recall, were often in the "you can't possibly expect our kids to attend Herndon when X" vein.

At another point, as this clip shows, she was jeered by the Langley parents when she said kids can get a good education in every FCPS school.

The Langley parents try to put her in a Catch-22 situation. If she responds that some differences reflect demographics, they imply that she's the racist one or has low expectations for poorer kids. If she doesn't respond that way, they'll claim there's something wrong with the teachers and administrators at Herndon. It's all intended to suggest that no one could possibly be moved from Langley to Herndon unless Herndon's current stats look just like Langley's. I'm not sure the SB will hold themselves to that standard, but we'll see. If the enrollments at Langley and Cooper are trending down it may be moot.

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I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.

Well, this statement intrigued me, so I googled and found the GFCA webinar with Robyn Lady. I heard nothing disparaging. I did hear lots of concerns about the shift, but not like that.

At one point, Robyn Lady brought up the demographics as the reason the school is rated lower. Someone did ask about the safety stats. The moderator mentioned (I am paraphrasing) that they might consider addressing that issue before shifting kids.
I've stated on this thread before that I have never heard anyone address fixing the problem at the struggling schools rather than covering it up with higher SES scoring kids.

Lady also mentioned that the teachers prefer teaching upper level classes. I did not hear anyone ask a question about how the school plans to staff the schools that get more kids as a result of boundary lines. (Teachers generally do not like being reassigned against their will.)

What about the insulting question "Does Herndon even meet the minimal requirements to offer AP courses"? Like really?

DP.

Oh my vapors.

You have boundary change proponents on here spewing racial slurs like they’re back in the 50s, but you’re upset at that question? Such transparently faux outrage.

The “boundary change proponents“ aren’t spewing racial slurs. In some instances they are ascribing views to Langley posters based on their past conduct and statements.

You aren’t fooling anyone, including the School Board, by suggesting otherwise. They know very well by now what you’re all about.

DP. But that is false, and everyone knows this. Langley posters aren't making racist statements, you are simply fabricating this (lying) to further your narrative. All we've said is that we do not want to switch schools. There is nothing at all racist about wanting to remain at a school rather than change. There's also nothing racist about comparing the test scores at both schools. It's people like you who are determined to make this into a racial issue when it is not.

What’s the comparison with kids of similar race? How are the white kids scores at Herndon? Asian?

It isn’t as simple as looking at overall scores and data.

Once again: it is YOU who is focused on race. Thanks for proving the point.

And why shouldn’t a parent focus on race? It is another factor when thinking about an environment.

I think is misguided, but I guess no objection from me if you want to focus on race. I was raised to believe in the fundamental principles of MLK to worry about content of one’s character, not skin color, but it seems that you disagree.

it is particularly pernicious for posters to outright lie by repeatedly claiming without evidence that Langley families are racist or posting racist things, when in reality it’s the exact opposite.

Langley posters will go to the mat to avoid sending their kids to a school with any significant number of Hispanic kids. MLK would be among the first to call you out were he alive today.

You are the literal embodiment of a race baiter.

Anyone can go back through this thread and see that you are the only one bringing up race. It’s clearly not Langley posters. 🙄

+1
At this point, I think it’s time to start reporting the race baiters. They make up
the vast majority of this thread.

LOL.

For context, here's a snippet of Robyn Lady's meeting with Langley parents back in June where you can hear them jeer when Robyn says that every school in FCPS offers a good education.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8V6Aest5Nx/

OMG, you found the smoking gun. Surely anyone who thinks there is variability among the Fcps schools is a die hard racist. 🙄

The jeering isn't cool, and you know it.

And the guy badgering Lady with leading questions and interrupting her as she tried to respond probably made quite an impression, although perhaps not the one you'd want to leave.

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I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.

Well, this statement intrigued me, so I googled and found the GFCA webinar with Robyn Lady. I heard nothing disparaging. I did hear lots of concerns about the shift, but not like that.

At one point, Robyn Lady brought up the demographics as the reason the school is rated lower. Someone did ask about the safety stats. The moderator mentioned (I am paraphrasing) that they might consider addressing that issue before shifting kids.
I've stated on this thread before that I have never heard anyone address fixing the problem at the struggling schools rather than covering it up with higher SES scoring kids.

Lady also mentioned that the teachers prefer teaching upper level classes. I did not hear anyone ask a question about how the school plans to staff the schools that get more kids as a result of boundary lines. (Teachers generally do not like being reassigned against their will.)

What about the insulting question "Does Herndon even meet the minimal requirements to offer AP courses"? Like really?

DP.

Oh my vapors.

You have boundary change proponents on here spewing racial slurs like they’re back in the 50s, but you’re upset at that question? Such transparently faux outrage.

The “boundary change proponents“ aren’t spewing racial slurs. In some instances they are ascribing views to Langley posters based on their past conduct and statements.

You aren’t fooling anyone, including the School Board, by suggesting otherwise. They know very well by now what you’re all about.

DP. But that is false, and everyone knows this. Langley posters aren't making racist statements, you are simply fabricating this (lying) to further your narrative. All we've said is that we do not want to switch schools. There is nothing at all racist about wanting to remain at a school rather than change. There's also nothing racist about comparing the test scores at both schools. It's people like you who are determined to make this into a racial issue when it is not.

What’s the comparison with kids of similar race? How are the white kids scores at Herndon? Asian?

It isn’t as simple as looking at overall scores and data.

Once again: it is YOU who is focused on race. Thanks for proving the point.

And why shouldn’t a parent focus on race? It is another factor when thinking about an environment.

I think is misguided, but I guess no objection from me if you want to focus on race. I was raised to believe in the fundamental principles of MLK to worry about content of one’s character, not skin color, but it seems that you disagree.

it is particularly pernicious for posters to outright lie by repeatedly claiming without evidence that Langley families are racist or posting racist things, when in reality it’s the exact opposite.

Langley posters will go to the mat to avoid sending their kids to a school with any significant number of Hispanic kids. MLK would be among the first to call you out were he alive today.

You are the literal embodiment of a race baiter.

Anyone can go back through this thread and see that you are the only one bringing up race. It’s clearly not Langley posters. 🙄

+1
At this point, I think it’s time to start reporting the race baiters. They make up
the vast majority of this thread.

LOL.

For context, here's a snippet of Robyn Lady's meeting with Langley parents back in June where you can hear them jeer when Robyn says that every school in FCPS offers a good education.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8V6Aest5Nx/

OMG, you found the smoking gun. Surely anyone who thinks there is variability among the Fcps schools is a die hard racist. 🙄

The jeering isn't cool, and you know it.

And the guy badgering Lady with leading questions and interrupting her as she tried to respond probably made quite an impression, although perhaps not the one you'd want to leave.

All they asked was for a delay. Lady has clearly already decided that she wants Langley kids at Herndon. And, where does she live?

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I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.

Well, this statement intrigued me, so I googled and found the GFCA webinar with Robyn Lady. I heard nothing disparaging. I did hear lots of concerns about the shift, but not like that.

At one point, Robyn Lady brought up the demographics as the reason the school is rated lower. Someone did ask about the safety stats. The moderator mentioned (I am paraphrasing) that they might consider addressing that issue before shifting kids.
I've stated on this thread before that I have never heard anyone address fixing the problem at the struggling schools rather than covering it up with higher SES scoring kids.

Lady also mentioned that the teachers prefer teaching upper level classes. I did not hear anyone ask a question about how the school plans to staff the schools that get more kids as a result of boundary lines. (Teachers generally do not like being reassigned against their will.)

What about the insulting question "Does Herndon even meet the minimal requirements to offer AP courses"? Like really?

DP.

Oh my vapors.

You have boundary change proponents on here spewing racial slurs like they’re back in the 50s, but you’re upset at that question? Such transparently faux outrage.

The “boundary change proponents“ aren’t spewing racial slurs. In some instances they are ascribing views to Langley posters based on their past conduct and statements.

You aren’t fooling anyone, including the School Board, by suggesting otherwise. They know very well by now what you’re all about.

DP. But that is false, and everyone knows this. Langley posters aren't making racist statements, you are simply fabricating this (lying) to further your narrative. All we've said is that we do not want to switch schools. There is nothing at all racist about wanting to remain at a school rather than change. There's also nothing racist about comparing the test scores at both schools. It's people like you who are determined to make this into a racial issue when it is not.

What’s the comparison with kids of similar race? How are the white kids scores at Herndon? Asian?

It isn’t as simple as looking at overall scores and data.

Once again: it is YOU who is focused on race. Thanks for proving the point.

And why shouldn’t a parent focus on race? It is another factor when thinking about an environment.

I think is misguided, but I guess no objection from me if you want to focus on race. I was raised to believe in the fundamental principles of MLK to worry about content of one’s character, not skin color, but it seems that you disagree.

it is particularly pernicious for posters to outright lie by repeatedly claiming without evidence that Langley families are racist or posting racist things, when in reality it’s the exact opposite.

Langley posters will go to the mat to avoid sending their kids to a school with any significant number of Hispanic kids. MLK would be among the first to call you out were he alive today.

You are the literal embodiment of a race baiter.

Anyone can go back through this thread and see that you are the only one bringing up race. It’s clearly not Langley posters. 🙄

OK, so Langley posters don’t mind brown people as long as they aren’t lower income brown people. Fine.

So why should rich residents (of all colors) who live in Great Falls or Herndon get priority for Langley HS over lower income brown people who live in apartments much closer to Langley HS?

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I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.

Well, this statement intrigued me, so I googled and found the GFCA webinar with Robyn Lady. I heard nothing disparaging. I did hear lots of concerns about the shift, but not like that.

At one point, Robyn Lady brought up the demographics as the reason the school is rated lower. Someone did ask about the safety stats. The moderator mentioned (I am paraphrasing) that they might consider addressing that issue before shifting kids.
I've stated on this thread before that I have never heard anyone address fixing the problem at the struggling schools rather than covering it up with higher SES scoring kids.

Lady also mentioned that the teachers prefer teaching upper level classes. I did not hear anyone ask a question about how the school plans to staff the schools that get more kids as a result of boundary lines. (Teachers generally do not like being reassigned against their will.)

What about the insulting question "Does Herndon even meet the minimal requirements to offer AP courses"? Like really?

DP.

Oh my vapors.

You have boundary change proponents on here spewing racial slurs like they’re back in the 50s, but you’re upset at that question? Such transparently faux outrage.

The “boundary change proponents“ aren’t spewing racial slurs. In some instances they are ascribing views to Langley posters based on their past conduct and statements.

You aren’t fooling anyone, including the School Board, by suggesting otherwise. They know very well by now what you’re all about.

DP. But that is false, and everyone knows this. Langley posters aren't making racist statements, you are simply fabricating this (lying) to further your narrative. All we've said is that we do not want to switch schools. There is nothing at all racist about wanting to remain at a school rather than change. There's also nothing racist about comparing the test scores at both schools. It's people like you who are determined to make this into a racial issue when it is not.

What’s the comparison with kids of similar race? How are the white kids scores at Herndon? Asian?

It isn’t as simple as looking at overall scores and data.

Once again: it is YOU who is focused on race. Thanks for proving the point.

And why shouldn’t a parent focus on race? It is another factor when thinking about an environment.

I think is misguided, but I guess no objection from me if you want to focus on race. I was raised to believe in the fundamental principles of MLK to worry about content of one’s character, not skin color, but it seems that you disagree.

it is particularly pernicious for posters to outright lie by repeatedly claiming without evidence that Langley families are racist or posting racist things, when in reality it’s the exact opposite.

Langley posters will go to the mat to avoid sending their kids to a school with any significant number of Hispanic kids. MLK would be among the first to call you out were he alive today.

You are the literal embodiment of a race baiter.

Anyone can go back through this thread and see that you are the only one bringing up race. It’s clearly not Langley posters. 🙄

+1
At this point, I think it’s time to start reporting the race baiters. They make up
the vast majority of this thread.

LOL.

For context, here's a snippet of Robyn Lady's meeting with Langley parents back in June where you can hear them jeer when Robyn says that every school in FCPS offers a good education.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8V6Aest5Nx/

OMG, you found the smoking gun. Surely anyone who thinks there is variability among the Fcps schools is a die hard racist. 🙄

The jeering isn't cool, and you know it.

And the guy badgering Lady with leading questions and interrupting her as she tried to respond probably made quite an impression, although perhaps not the one you'd want to leave.

All they asked was for a delay. Lady has clearly already decided that she wants Langley kids at Herndon. And, where does she live?

At the time they wanted her to agree to delay the adoption of revised Policy 8130. She refused. That's no excuse to jeer her when she says, in effect, that a kid can get a good education at Herndon. What else did you expect her to say?

As to whether she wants Langley kids at Herndon, I really have no idea. You may have convinced her that your kids should be quarantined on Georgetown Pike. If so, well played. Or, again, maybe it's all moot given enrollment trends.

She lives in the Herndon district. Her predecessor lived in the Langley district, and the SB member before that lived in the McLean district. Seems fair.

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So why should rich residents (of all colors) who live in Great Falls or Herndon get priority for Langley HS over lower income brown people who live in apartments much closer to Langley HS?

I did not think there were any low income people close to Langley of any color. There has been ample opportunity to assign them there without moving current students. Why haven't they?

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I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.

Well, this statement intrigued me, so I googled and found the GFCA webinar with Robyn Lady. I heard nothing disparaging. I did hear lots of concerns about the shift, but not like that.

At one point, Robyn Lady brought up the demographics as the reason the school is rated lower. Someone did ask about the safety stats. The moderator mentioned (I am paraphrasing) that they might consider addressing that issue before shifting kids.
I've stated on this thread before that I have never heard anyone address fixing the problem at the struggling schools rather than covering it up with higher SES scoring kids.

Lady also mentioned that the teachers prefer teaching upper level classes. I did not hear anyone ask a question about how the school plans to staff the schools that get more kids as a result of boundary lines. (Teachers generally do not like being reassigned against their will.)

What about the insulting question "Does Herndon even meet the minimal requirements to offer AP courses"? Like really?

DP.

Oh my vapors.

You have boundary change proponents on here spewing racial slurs like they’re back in the 50s, but you’re upset at that question? Such transparently faux outrage.

The “boundary change proponents“ aren’t spewing racial slurs. In some instances they are ascribing views to Langley posters based on their past conduct and statements.

You aren’t fooling anyone, including the School Board, by suggesting otherwise. They know very well by now what you’re all about.

DP. But that is false, and everyone knows this. Langley posters aren't making racist statements, you are simply fabricating this (lying) to further your narrative. All we've said is that we do not want to switch schools. There is nothing at all racist about wanting to remain at a school rather than change. There's also nothing racist about comparing the test scores at both schools. It's people like you who are determined to make this into a racial issue when it is not.

What’s the comparison with kids of similar race? How are the white kids scores at Herndon? Asian?

It isn’t as simple as looking at overall scores and data.

Once again: it is YOU who is focused on race. Thanks for proving the point.

And why shouldn’t a parent focus on race? It is another factor when thinking about an environment.

I think is misguided, but I guess no objection from me if you want to focus on race. I was raised to believe in the fundamental principles of MLK to worry about content of one’s character, not skin color, but it seems that you disagree.

it is particularly pernicious for posters to outright lie by repeatedly claiming without evidence that Langley families are racist or posting racist things, when in reality it’s the exact opposite.

Langley posters will go to the mat to avoid sending their kids to a school with any significant number of Hispanic kids. MLK would be among the first to call you out were he alive today.

You are the literal embodiment of a race baiter.

Anyone can go back through this thread and see that you are the only one bringing up race. It’s clearly not Langley posters. 🙄

OK, so Langley posters don’t mind brown people as long as they aren’t lower income brown people. Fine.

So why should rich residents (of all colors) who live in Great Falls or Herndon get priority for Langley HS over lower income brown people who live in apartments much closer to Langley HS?

This does not describe the demographics of the Spring Hill attendance island.

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I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.

Well, this statement intrigued me, so I googled and found the GFCA webinar with Robyn Lady. I heard nothing disparaging. I did hear lots of concerns about the shift, but not like that.

At one point, Robyn Lady brought up the demographics as the reason the school is rated lower. Someone did ask about the safety stats. The moderator mentioned (I am paraphrasing) that they might consider addressing that issue before shifting kids.
I've stated on this thread before that I have never heard anyone address fixing the problem at the struggling schools rather than covering it up with higher SES scoring kids.

Lady also mentioned that the teachers prefer teaching upper level classes. I did not hear anyone ask a question about how the school plans to staff the schools that get more kids as a result of boundary lines. (Teachers generally do not like being reassigned against their will.)

What about the insulting question "Does Herndon even meet the minimal requirements to offer AP courses"? Like really?

DP.

Oh my vapors.

You have boundary change proponents on here spewing racial slurs like they’re back in the 50s, but you’re upset at that question? Such transparently faux outrage.

The “boundary change proponents“ aren’t spewing racial slurs. In some instances they are ascribing views to Langley posters based on their past conduct and statements.

You aren’t fooling anyone, including the School Board, by suggesting otherwise. They know very well by now what you’re all about.

DP. But that is false, and everyone knows this. Langley posters aren't making racist statements, you are simply fabricating this (lying) to further your narrative. All we've said is that we do not want to switch schools. There is nothing at all racist about wanting to remain at a school rather than change. There's also nothing racist about comparing the test scores at both schools. It's people like you who are determined to make this into a racial issue when it is not.

What’s the comparison with kids of similar race? How are the white kids scores at Herndon? Asian?

It isn’t as simple as looking at overall scores and data.

Once again: it is YOU who is focused on race. Thanks for proving the point.

And why shouldn’t a parent focus on race? It is another factor when thinking about an environment.

I think is misguided, but I guess no objection from me if you want to focus on race. I was raised to believe in the fundamental principles of MLK to worry about content of one’s character, not skin color, but it seems that you disagree.

it is particularly pernicious for posters to outright lie by repeatedly claiming without evidence that Langley families are racist or posting racist things, when in reality it’s the exact opposite.

Langley posters will go to the mat to avoid sending their kids to a school with any significant number of Hispanic kids. MLK would be among the first to call you out were he alive today.

You are the literal embodiment of a race baiter.

Anyone can go back through this thread and see that you are the only one bringing up race. It’s clearly not Langley posters. 🙄

OK, so Langley posters don’t mind brown people as long as they aren’t lower income brown people. Fine.

So why should rich residents (of all colors) who live in Great Falls or Herndon get priority for Langley HS over lower income brown people who live in apartments much closer to Langley HS?

This does not describe the demographics of the Spring Hill attendance island.

That is true. FWIW I'd say the demographics of the Spring Hill attendance island skew towards a racially diverse group of moderate and upper-income families.

There are other apartments elsewhere in Tysons and Reston that are closer to Langley than parts of Great Falls and Herndon and include more lower-income Hispanic residents.

I don't know if "ironic" is the right word but if the Spring Hill island is reassigned to Langley and some or all of Forestville gets moved to Herndon, I could see some entering into new leases in the current SH attendance island to get back into Langley.

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I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.

Well, this statement intrigued me, so I googled and found the GFCA webinar with Robyn Lady. I heard nothing disparaging. I did hear lots of concerns about the shift, but not like that.

At one point, Robyn Lady brought up the demographics as the reason the school is rated lower. Someone did ask about the safety stats. The moderator mentioned (I am paraphrasing) that they might consider addressing that issue before shifting kids.
I've stated on this thread before that I have never heard anyone address fixing the problem at the struggling schools rather than covering it up with higher SES scoring kids.

Lady also mentioned that the teachers prefer teaching upper level classes. I did not hear anyone ask a question about how the school plans to staff the schools that get more kids as a result of boundary lines. (Teachers generally do not like being reassigned against their will.)

What about the insulting question "Does Herndon even meet the minimal requirements to offer AP courses"? Like really?

DP.

Oh my vapors.

You have boundary change proponents on here spewing racial slurs like they’re back in the 50s, but you’re upset at that question? Such transparently faux outrage.

The “boundary change proponents“ aren’t spewing racial slurs. In some instances they are ascribing views to Langley posters based on their past conduct and statements.

You aren’t fooling anyone, including the School Board, by suggesting otherwise. They know very well by now what you’re all about.

DP. But that is false, and everyone knows this. Langley posters aren't making racist statements, you are simply fabricating this (lying) to further your narrative. All we've said is that we do not want to switch schools. There is nothing at all racist about wanting to remain at a school rather than change. There's also nothing racist about comparing the test scores at both schools. It's people like you who are determined to make this into a racial issue when it is not.

What’s the comparison with kids of similar race? How are the white kids scores at Herndon? Asian?

It isn’t as simple as looking at overall scores and data.

Once again: it is YOU who is focused on race. Thanks for proving the point.

And why shouldn’t a parent focus on race? It is another factor when thinking about an environment.

I think is misguided, but I guess no objection from me if you want to focus on race. I was raised to believe in the fundamental principles of MLK to worry about content of one’s character, not skin color, but it seems that you disagree.

it is particularly pernicious for posters to outright lie by repeatedly claiming without evidence that Langley families are racist or posting racist things, when in reality it’s the exact opposite.

Langley posters will go to the mat to avoid sending their kids to a school with any significant number of Hispanic kids. MLK would be among the first to call you out were he alive today.

You are the literal embodiment of a race baiter.

Anyone can go back through this thread and see that you are the only one bringing up race. It’s clearly not Langley posters. 🙄

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At this point, I think it’s time to start reporting the race baiters. They make up
the vast majority of this thread.

LOL.

For context, here's a snippet of Robyn Lady's meeting with Langley parents back in June where you can hear them jeer when Robyn says that every school in FCPS offers a good education.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8V6Aest5Nx/

Thank you for posting this video. It clearly shows how utterly unprepared and out of her depth Robyn Lady is. She doesn't know the answers to any of the questions she's asked. Yet, you insist on making this about race. Every school in FCPS does NOT offer a good education, and to claim otherwise makes you look idiotic.

Woman: "Why do we have a school that has 500+ incidents of behavior, when Langley has ten? (Shows VDOE data on screen)
Robyn Lady: "Are there probably more incidents at Herndon? Yes. It's a different demographic."

What do you think she's means by this? We'll wait while you spin something up.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem I see is that in this clip and in the Great Falls webinar, it is Robyn Lady who blames the problems on demographics.

I have posted this multiple times: Fix the problems where they are. The problems will not be solved by adding different kids. The SB is only interested in covering up the problems.

Fix the discipline issues before you move in more kids. That includes the truancy. Do they not care about the "good" kids that are already there? And, many of those "good" kids might be struggling academically. They deserve an education, too. Blaming it on demographics--as Lady does--is not the answer. I don't know if she is talking about economics or race--but it is troubling that she is blaming it on demographics.

I say this as someone who taught impoverished kids. You cannot teach if you don't have order in the classroom.

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I still can't fathom what it is they hope to achieve by importing UMC kids to this school. How on earth will that improve the existing problems?

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I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.

Well, this statement intrigued me, so I googled and found the GFCA webinar with Robyn Lady. I heard nothing disparaging. I did hear lots of concerns about the shift, but not like that.

At one point, Robyn Lady brought up the demographics as the reason the school is rated lower. Someone did ask about the safety stats. The moderator mentioned (I am paraphrasing) that they might consider addressing that issue before shifting kids.
I've stated on this thread before that I have never heard anyone address fixing the problem at the struggling schools rather than covering it up with higher SES scoring kids.

Lady also mentioned that the teachers prefer teaching upper level classes. I did not hear anyone ask a question about how the school plans to staff the schools that get more kids as a result of boundary lines. (Teachers generally do not like being reassigned against their will.)

What about the insulting question "Does Herndon even meet the minimal requirements to offer AP courses"? Like really?

DP.

Oh my vapors.

You have boundary change proponents on here spewing racial slurs like they’re back in the 50s, but you’re upset at that question? Such transparently faux outrage.

The “boundary change proponents“ aren’t spewing racial slurs. In some instances they are ascribing views to Langley posters based on their past conduct and statements.

You aren’t fooling anyone, including the School Board, by suggesting otherwise. They know very well by now what you’re all about.

DP. But that is false, and everyone knows this. Langley posters aren't making racist statements, you are simply fabricating this (lying) to further your narrative. All we've said is that we do not want to switch schools. There is nothing at all racist about wanting to remain at a school rather than change. There's also nothing racist about comparing the test scores at both schools. It's people like you who are determined to make this into a racial issue when it is not.

What’s the comparison with kids of similar race? How are the white kids scores at Herndon? Asian?

It isn’t as simple as looking at overall scores and data.

Once again: it is YOU who is focused on race. Thanks for proving the point.

And why shouldn’t a parent focus on race? It is another factor when thinking about an environment.

I think is misguided, but I guess no objection from me if you want to focus on race. I was raised to believe in the fundamental principles of MLK to worry about content of one’s character, not skin color, but it seems that you disagree.

it is particularly pernicious for posters to outright lie by repeatedly claiming without evidence that Langley families are racist or posting racist things, when in reality it’s the exact opposite.

Langley posters will go to the mat to avoid sending their kids to a school with any significant number of Hispanic kids. MLK would be among the first to call you out were he alive today.

You are the literal embodiment of a race baiter.

Anyone can go back through this thread and see that you are the only one bringing up race. It’s clearly not Langley posters. 🙄

+1
At this point, I think it’s time to start reporting the race baiters. They make up
the vast majority of this thread.

LOL.

For context, here's a snippet of Robyn Lady's meeting with Langley parents back in June where you can hear them jeer when Robyn says that every school in FCPS offers a good education.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8V6Aest5Nx/

OMG, you found the smoking gun. Surely anyone who thinks there is variability among the Fcps schools is a die hard racist. 🙄

The jeering isn't cool, and you know it.

And the guy badgering Lady with leading questions and interrupting her as she tried to respond probably made quite an impression, although perhaps not the one you'd want to leave.

DP. What you see as "jeering," I see as correctly calling out. The people in that audience are not stupid. Don't try and pretend "every school in FCPS offers a good education." That's BS and deserves to be called out.

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I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.

Well, this statement intrigued me, so I googled and found the GFCA webinar with Robyn Lady. I heard nothing disparaging. I did hear lots of concerns about the shift, but not like that.

At one point, Robyn Lady brought up the demographics as the reason the school is rated lower. Someone did ask about the safety stats. The moderator mentioned (I am paraphrasing) that they might consider addressing that issue before shifting kids.
I've stated on this thread before that I have never heard anyone address fixing the problem at the struggling schools rather than covering it up with higher SES scoring kids.

Lady also mentioned that the teachers prefer teaching upper level classes. I did not hear anyone ask a question about how the school plans to staff the schools that get more kids as a result of boundary lines. (Teachers generally do not like being reassigned against their will.)

What about the insulting question "Does Herndon even meet the minimal requirements to offer AP courses"? Like really?

DP.

Oh my vapors.

You have boundary change proponents on here spewing racial slurs like they’re back in the 50s, but you’re upset at that question? Such transparently faux outrage.

The “boundary change proponents“ aren’t spewing racial slurs. In some instances they are ascribing views to Langley posters based on their past conduct and statements.

You aren’t fooling anyone, including the School Board, by suggesting otherwise. They know very well by now what you’re all about.

DP. But that is false, and everyone knows this. Langley posters aren't making racist statements, you are simply fabricating this (lying) to further your narrative. All we've said is that we do not want to switch schools. There is nothing at all racist about wanting to remain at a school rather than change. There's also nothing racist about comparing the test scores at both schools. It's people like you who are determined to make this into a racial issue when it is not.

What’s the comparison with kids of similar race? How are the white kids scores at Herndon? Asian?

It isn’t as simple as looking at overall scores and data.

Once again: it is YOU who is focused on race. Thanks for proving the point.

And why shouldn’t a parent focus on race? It is another factor when thinking about an environment.

I think is misguided, but I guess no objection from me if you want to focus on race. I was raised to believe in the fundamental principles of MLK to worry about content of one’s character, not skin color, but it seems that you disagree.

it is particularly pernicious for posters to outright lie by repeatedly claiming without evidence that Langley families are racist or posting racist things, when in reality it’s the exact opposite.

Langley posters will go to the mat to avoid sending their kids to a school with any significant number of Hispanic kids. MLK would be among the first to call you out were he alive today.

You are the literal embodiment of a race baiter.

Anyone can go back through this thread and see that you are the only one bringing up race. It’s clearly not Langley posters. 🙄

OK, so Langley posters don’t mind brown people as long as they aren’t lower income brown people. Fine.

So why should rich residents (of all colors) who live in Great Falls or Herndon get priority for Langley HS over lower income brown people who live in apartments much closer to Langley HS?

Race-baiter continues to race bait. I'm not even going to bother to respond to someone who refers to people by the color of their skin.
DP