Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe she paid him anything but I also don’t think she got a dime.

It appears no money has been exchanged.

Baldoni supporter and it’s this. Only Blake had a live claim for damages so only she would be in a position to get money as part of a settlement.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget that Blake/Ryan (and bots) always tell on themselves and copy others. I've followed this thread from the beginning and they are easy to spot. They keep repeating the same nonsense while pretending they are above everything. They spend ALL day responding to posts (even minor ones) in a vitriolic manner. They are desperately trying to throw out buzzwords like patriarchy, misogyny, faux ally and accusing Maga and the manosphere of being Baldoni's supporters. It's the Reynolds/Lively playback. Say it enough times and maybe it will stick. They are patting themselves on the back so hard they might break an arm with the pathetic and transparent attempt of a "victory" lap. Force it, smile, pretend everything is great and everyone will forget the embarrassing and ill-advised self-own. Their pr will feed statements from anonymous sources to gossip mags that everything worked out great for them. And the statement. Oh, the statement. Everyone deserves to be heard. It doesn't mean they were in the right. They will pretend that concept is hard to grasp.

Exactly. It obviously wasn't organic and it will 100% cease when the contract ends. Out of the $60 million this futile effort allegedly cost, I'm assuming literally millions of dollars were pissed away on "cyber narrative control." A fool and their money...

The sad thing to me is that you might actually believe this. Just... whoa.

Every Hollywood PR pro basically agrees with this take as does the general public. You're the outlier.

Actually I'm a real person who is a Blake supporter and a member of the "general public." Which is how I know you're wrong.

Actually, I'm a real person who is NOT a Blake supporter and a member of the "general public." Which is how I know you're wrong. Woah, keep being astonished people see through the machinations.

Has it occurred to you that after nearly 300 pages of back and forth in this thread, there are people who support both sides and simply don't agree on what happened here or who is at fault? I can see the appeal of believing that anyone who disagrees with you must be a "bot" or a paid supporter or something, but it's just not true. There are real people who agree with Blake and thing Justin/Wayfarer are in the wrong here. Obviously we recognize there are also people who think Blake lied and this is all her fault -- I'm not going to pretend you are not a real person or call you a bot. I believe that you really believe what you say here.

But only one side insists the other side isn't real. Only one side fills comment sections with hateful rhetoric to bully and harass anyone who supports Blake. And then that same side claims that Blake supporters *must* be fake because they don't do the same thing to Justin and his supporters. But it's actually just a difference in approach. It would never occur to me to go write nasty comments on Justin's IG -- that seems mean and unnecessary. It would never occur to me to follow pro-Justin content creators so that I could harass them in the comments, it seems like a waste of my time and, again, unkind.

I don't know why Justin supporters are so vicious. But the lack of vicious, aggressive online behavior from Blake supporters is not proof to me that we are not real. It's evidence perhaps of a different value set.

You don’t even need to go back five pages to find a Blake supporter saying that the Justin supporters are all fake (coupled with some ridiculous manosphere word salad) or repeated claims of sock puppeting (false, btw). The Blake supporter (s) get no respect because of this gaslighting, which you are also perpetuating.

Bumping

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget that Blake/Ryan (and bots) always tell on themselves and copy others. I've followed this thread from the beginning and they are easy to spot. They keep repeating the same nonsense while pretending they are above everything. They spend ALL day responding to posts (even minor ones) in a vitriolic manner. They are desperately trying to throw out buzzwords like patriarchy, misogyny, faux ally and accusing Maga and the manosphere of being Baldoni's supporters. It's the Reynolds/Lively playback. Say it enough times and maybe it will stick. They are patting themselves on the back so hard they might break an arm with the pathetic and transparent attempt of a "victory" lap. Force it, smile, pretend everything is great and everyone will forget the embarrassing and ill-advised self-own. Their pr will feed statements from anonymous sources to gossip mags that everything worked out great for them. And the statement. Oh, the statement. Everyone deserves to be heard. It doesn't mean they were in the right. They will pretend that concept is hard to grasp.

Exactly. It obviously wasn't organic and it will 100% cease when the contract ends. Out of the $60 million this futile effort allegedly cost, I'm assuming literally millions of dollars were pissed away on "cyber narrative control." A fool and their money...

The sad thing to me is that you might actually believe this. Just... whoa.

Every Hollywood PR pro basically agrees with this take as does the general public. You're the outlier.

Actually I'm a real person who is a Blake supporter and a member of the "general public." Which is how I know you're wrong.

Actually, I'm a real person who is NOT a Blake supporter and a member of the "general public." Which is how I know you're wrong. Woah, keep being astonished people see through the machinations.

Has it occurred to you that after nearly 300 pages of back and forth in this thread, there are people who support both sides and simply don't agree on what happened here or who is at fault? I can see the appeal of believing that anyone who disagrees with you must be a "bot" or a paid supporter or something, but it's just not true. There are real people who agree with Blake and thing Justin/Wayfarer are in the wrong here. Obviously we recognize there are also people who think Blake lied and this is all her fault -- I'm not going to pretend you are not a real person or call you a bot. I believe that you really believe what you say here.

But only one side insists the other side isn't real. Only one side fills comment sections with hateful rhetoric to bully and harass anyone who supports Blake. And then that same side claims that Blake supporters *must* be fake because they don't do the same thing to Justin and his supporters. But it's actually just a difference in approach. It would never occur to me to go write nasty comments on Justin's IG -- that seems mean and unnecessary. It would never occur to me to follow pro-Justin content creators so that I could harass them in the comments, it seems like a waste of my time and, again, unkind.

I don't know why Justin supporters are so vicious. But the lack of vicious, aggressive online behavior from Blake supporters is not proof to me that we are not real. It's evidence perhaps of a different value set.

You don’t even need to go back five pages to find a Blake supporter saying that the Justin supporters are all fake (coupled with some ridiculous manosphere word salad) or repeated claims of sock puppeting (false, btw). The Blake supporter (s) get no respect because of this gaslighting, which you are also perpetuating.

I don't think the Justin supporters on this thread are all fake. I do think there are bots and fake accounts engaged in upcoming/down voting activity in Reddit, as well as engaging in the brigading on Blake's IG (when comments were open) and on tabloid comment sections and the comment sections for people who support or even are associated with her.

These are separate things. There are obviously people who genuinely support Justin. There is also clearly "inorganic" behavior online going after Blake and anyone even mildly associated, plus flodfing comment sections. Both can be true.

If Blake were paying for bots, why wouldn't she pay for positive comments in those same places?

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget that Blake/Ryan (and bots) always tell on themselves and copy others. I've followed this thread from the beginning and they are easy to spot. They keep repeating the same nonsense while pretending they are above everything. They spend ALL day responding to posts (even minor ones) in a vitriolic manner. They are desperately trying to throw out buzzwords like patriarchy, misogyny, faux ally and accusing Maga and the manosphere of being Baldoni's supporters. It's the Reynolds/Lively playback. Say it enough times and maybe it will stick. They are patting themselves on the back so hard they might break an arm with the pathetic and transparent attempt of a "victory" lap. Force it, smile, pretend everything is great and everyone will forget the embarrassing and ill-advised self-own. Their pr will feed statements from anonymous sources to gossip mags that everything worked out great for them. And the statement. Oh, the statement. Everyone deserves to be heard. It doesn't mean they were in the right. They will pretend that concept is hard to grasp.

Exactly. It obviously wasn't organic and it will 100% cease when the contract ends. Out of the $60 million this futile effort allegedly cost, I'm assuming literally millions of dollars were pissed away on "cyber narrative control." A fool and their money...

The sad thing to me is that you might actually believe this. Just... whoa.

Every Hollywood PR pro basically agrees with this take as does the general public. You're the outlier.

Actually I'm a real person who is a Blake supporter and a member of the "general public." Which is how I know you're wrong.

Actually, I'm a real person who is NOT a Blake supporter and a member of the "general public." Which is how I know you're wrong. Woah, keep being astonished people see through the machinations.

Has it occurred to you that after nearly 300 pages of back and forth in this thread, there are people who support both sides and simply don't agree on what happened here or who is at fault? I can see the appeal of believing that anyone who disagrees with you must be a "bot" or a paid supporter or something, but it's just not true. There are real people who agree with Blake and thing Justin/Wayfarer are in the wrong here. Obviously we recognize there are also people who think Blake lied and this is all her fault -- I'm not going to pretend you are not a real person or call you a bot. I believe that you really believe what you say here.

But only one side insists the other side isn't real. Only one side fills comment sections with hateful rhetoric to bully and harass anyone who supports Blake. And then that same side claims that Blake supporters *must* be fake because they don't do the same thing to Justin and his supporters. But it's actually just a difference in approach. It would never occur to me to go write nasty comments on Justin's IG -- that seems mean and unnecessary. It would never occur to me to follow pro-Justin content creators so that I could harass them in the comments, it seems like a waste of my time and, again, unkind.

I don't know why Justin supporters are so vicious. But the lack of vicious, aggressive online behavior from Blake supporters is not proof to me that we are not real. It's evidence perhaps of a different value set.

You don’t even need to go back five pages to find a Blake supporter saying that the Justin supporters are all fake (coupled with some ridiculous manosphere word salad) or repeated claims of sock puppeting (false, btw). The Blake supporter (s) get no respect because of this gaslighting, which you are also perpetuating.

I don't think the Justin supporters on this thread are all fake. I do think there are bots and fake accounts engaged in upcoming/down voting activity in Reddit, as well as engaging in the brigading on Blake's IG (when comments were open) and on tabloid comment sections and the comment sections for people who support or even are associated with her.

These are separate things. There are obviously people who genuinely support Justin. There is also clearly "inorganic" behavior online going after Blake and anyone even mildly associated, plus flodfing comment sections. Both can be true.

If Blake were paying for bots, why wouldn't she pay for positive comments in those same places?

She does, there is just more organic dislike for her than she can outbuy. She is spending millions on pr, including the ex FBI guy that did clean up for Airbnb.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget that Blake/Ryan (and bots) always tell on themselves and copy others. I've followed this thread from the beginning and they are easy to spot. They keep repeating the same nonsense while pretending they are above everything. They spend ALL day responding to posts (even minor ones) in a vitriolic manner. They are desperately trying to throw out buzzwords like patriarchy, misogyny, faux ally and accusing Maga and the manosphere of being Baldoni's supporters. It's the Reynolds/Lively playback. Say it enough times and maybe it will stick. They are patting themselves on the back so hard they might break an arm with the pathetic and transparent attempt of a "victory" lap. Force it, smile, pretend everything is great and everyone will forget the embarrassing and ill-advised self-own. Their pr will feed statements from anonymous sources to gossip mags that everything worked out great for them. And the statement. Oh, the statement. Everyone deserves to be heard. It doesn't mean they were in the right. They will pretend that concept is hard to grasp.

Exactly. It obviously wasn't organic and it will 100% cease when the contract ends. Out of the $60 million this futile effort allegedly cost, I'm assuming literally millions of dollars were pissed away on "cyber narrative control." A fool and their money...

The sad thing to me is that you might actually believe this. Just... whoa.

Every Hollywood PR pro basically agrees with this take as does the general public. You're the outlier.

Actually I'm a real person who is a Blake supporter and a member of the "general public." Which is how I know you're wrong.

Actually, I'm a real person who is NOT a Blake supporter and a member of the "general public." Which is how I know you're wrong. Woah, keep being astonished people see through the machinations.

Has it occurred to you that after nearly 300 pages of back and forth in this thread, there are people who support both sides and simply don't agree on what happened here or who is at fault? I can see the appeal of believing that anyone who disagrees with you must be a "bot" or a paid supporter or something, but it's just not true. There are real people who agree with Blake and thing Justin/Wayfarer are in the wrong here. Obviously we recognize there are also people who think Blake lied and this is all her fault -- I'm not going to pretend you are not a real person or call you a bot. I believe that you really believe what you say here.

But only one side insists the other side isn't real. Only one side fills comment sections with hateful rhetoric to bully and harass anyone who supports Blake. And then that same side claims that Blake supporters *must* be fake because they don't do the same thing to Justin and his supporters. But it's actually just a difference in approach. It would never occur to me to go write nasty comments on Justin's IG -- that seems mean and unnecessary. It would never occur to me to follow pro-Justin content creators so that I could harass them in the comments, it seems like a waste of my time and, again, unkind.

I don't know why Justin supporters are so vicious. But the lack of vicious, aggressive online behavior from Blake supporters is not proof to me that we are not real. It's evidence perhaps of a different value set.

You don’t even need to go back five pages to find a Blake supporter saying that the Justin supporters are all fake (coupled with some ridiculous manosphere word salad) or repeated claims of sock puppeting (false, btw). The Blake supporter (s) get no respect because of this gaslighting, which you are also perpetuating.

I don't think the Justin supporters on this thread are all fake. I do think there are bots and fake accounts engaged in upcoming/down voting activity in Reddit, as well as engaging in the brigading on Blake's IG (when comments were open) and on tabloid comment sections and the comment sections for people who support or even are associated with her.

These are separate things. There are obviously people who genuinely support Justin. There is also clearly "inorganic" behavior online going after Blake and anyone even mildly associated, plus flodfing comment sections. Both can be true.

If Blake were paying for bots, why wouldn't she pay for positive comments in those same places?

She does, there is just more organic dislike for her than she can outbuy. She is spending millions on pr, including the ex FBI guy that did clean up for Airbnb.

That doesn't make sense. She's spending millions but you see no evidence of bot comments places like TMZ or Justin's IG account?

Most people don't care about either of these people -- it's a tiny fraction of the population that is invested at all, and am even smaller number invested enough to go post angry comments about it. Yet you see many such comments supporting Justin and virtually no activity like that supporting Blake. This does not lead me to the conclusion that Blake is spending millions on bot accounts.

[Anonymous]

Settlement finally filed with court today, it's a bit different than rumors have been alleging. In fact the case is not totally settled because there is a motion for attorneys fees and damages still pending. But there won't be a trial, at least not between Lively and Wayfarer.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CelebLegalDrama/comments/1t6bog1/it_doesnt_really_end_with_this_blake_lively/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget that Blake/Ryan (and bots) always tell on themselves and copy others. I've followed this thread from the beginning and they are easy to spot. They keep repeating the same nonsense while pretending they are above everything. They spend ALL day responding to posts (even minor ones) in a vitriolic manner. They are desperately trying to throw out buzzwords like patriarchy, misogyny, faux ally and accusing Maga and the manosphere of being Baldoni's supporters. It's the Reynolds/Lively playback. Say it enough times and maybe it will stick. They are patting themselves on the back so hard they might break an arm with the pathetic and transparent attempt of a "victory" lap. Force it, smile, pretend everything is great and everyone will forget the embarrassing and ill-advised self-own. Their pr will feed statements from anonymous sources to gossip mags that everything worked out great for them. And the statement. Oh, the statement. Everyone deserves to be heard. It doesn't mean they were in the right. They will pretend that concept is hard to grasp.

Exactly. It obviously wasn't organic and it will 100% cease when the contract ends. Out of the $60 million this futile effort allegedly cost, I'm assuming literally millions of dollars were pissed away on "cyber narrative control." A fool and their money...

The sad thing to me is that you might actually believe this. Just... whoa.

Every Hollywood PR pro basically agrees with this take as does the general public. You're the outlier.

Actually I'm a real person who is a Blake supporter and a member of the "general public." Which is how I know you're wrong.

Actually, I'm a real person who is NOT a Blake supporter and a member of the "general public." Which is how I know you're wrong. Woah, keep being astonished people see through the machinations.

Has it occurred to you that after nearly 300 pages of back and forth in this thread, there are people who support both sides and simply don't agree on what happened here or who is at fault? I can see the appeal of believing that anyone who disagrees with you must be a "bot" or a paid supporter or something, but it's just not true. There are real people who agree with Blake and thing Justin/Wayfarer are in the wrong here. Obviously we recognize there are also people who think Blake lied and this is all her fault -- I'm not going to pretend you are not a real person or call you a bot. I believe that you really believe what you say here.

But only one side insists the other side isn't real. Only one side fills comment sections with hateful rhetoric to bully and harass anyone who supports Blake. And then that same side claims that Blake supporters *must* be fake because they don't do the same thing to Justin and his supporters. But it's actually just a difference in approach. It would never occur to me to go write nasty comments on Justin's IG -- that seems mean and unnecessary. It would never occur to me to follow pro-Justin content creators so that I could harass them in the comments, it seems like a waste of my time and, again, unkind.

I don't know why Justin supporters are so vicious. But the lack of vicious, aggressive online behavior from Blake supporters is not proof to me that we are not real. It's evidence perhaps of a different value set.

You don’t even need to go back five pages to find a Blake supporter saying that the Justin supporters are all fake (coupled with some ridiculous manosphere word salad) or repeated claims of sock puppeting (false, btw). The Blake supporter (s) get no respect because of this gaslighting, which you are also perpetuating.

I don't think the Justin supporters on this thread are all fake. I do think there are bots and fake accounts engaged in upcoming/down voting activity in Reddit, as well as engaging in the brigading on Blake's IG (when comments were open) and on tabloid comment sections and the comment sections for people who support or even are associated with her.

These are separate things. There are obviously people who genuinely support Justin. There is also clearly "inorganic" behavior online going after Blake and anyone even mildly associated, plus flodfing comment sections. Both can be true.

If Blake were paying for bots, why wouldn't she pay for positive comments in those same places?

She does, there is just more organic dislike for her than she can outbuy. She is spending millions on pr, including the ex FBI guy that did clean up for Airbnb.

That doesn't make sense. She's spending millions but you see no evidence of bot comments places like TMZ or Justin's IG account?

Most people don't care about either of these people -- it's a tiny fraction of the population that is invested at all, and am even smaller number invested enough to go post angry comments about it. Yet you see many such comments supporting Justin and virtually no activity like that supporting Blake. This does not lead me to the conclusion that Blake is spending millions on bot accounts.

There are pro Blake accounts on insta and X, most have shut off or limited comments and therefore get limited traffic. You just don’t understand social media.

She’s so disliked on social media that it must be fake is among the stupidest arguments I’ve seen here.

In any case, Baldoni certainly isn’t funding bots against Blake. Blake’s lawyers spent million on discovery and came up with nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Settlement finally filed with court today, it's a bit different than rumors have been alleging. In fact the case is not totally settled because there is a motion for attorneys fees and damages still pending. But there won't be a trial, at least not between Lively and Wayfarer.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CelebLegalDrama/comments/1t6bog1/it_doesnt_really_end_with_this_blake_lively/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1

A key, and I think confusing, detail: Wayfarer is dropping it's appeal on the 47.1 motion, which is the part of the case still alive and pending a decision. That motion is potentially very expensive for Wayfarer (treble damages in play).

They would do that unless avoiding trial was more important to them... right? I mean there is a chance they will win that motion so maybe it works out, but to drop the appeal and still allow the motion for damages to proceed post-settlement? This sounds potentially disastrous.

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Anonymous wrote:Settlement finally filed with court today, it's a bit different than rumors have been alleging. In fact the case is not totally settled because there is a motion for attorneys fees and damages still pending. But there won't be a trial, at least not between Lively and Wayfarer.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CelebLegalDrama/comments/1t6bog1/it_doesnt_really_end_with_this_blake_lively/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1

A key, and I think confusing, detail: Wayfarer is dropping it's appeal on the 47.1 motion, which is the part of the case still alive and pending a decision. That motion is potentially very expensive for Wayfarer (treble damages in play).

They would do that unless avoiding trial was more important to them... right? I mean there is a chance they will win that motion so maybe it works out, but to drop the appeal and still allow the motion for damages to proceed post-settlement? This sounds potentially disastrous.

The lawyers know that motion won’t be granted. If you think otherwise, you haven’t been paying attention to the judge’s decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:Settlement finally filed with court today, it's a bit different than rumors have been alleging. In fact the case is not totally settled because there is a motion for attorneys fees and damages still pending. But there won't be a trial, at least not between Lively and Wayfarer.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CelebLegalDrama/comments/1t6bog1/it_doesnt_really_end_with_this_blake_lively/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1

A key, and I think confusing, detail: Wayfarer is dropping it's appeal on the 47.1 motion, which is the part of the case still alive and pending a decision. That motion is potentially very expensive for Wayfarer (treble damages in play).

They would do that unless avoiding trial was more important to them... right? I mean there is a chance they will win that motion so maybe it works out, but to drop the appeal and still allow the motion for damages to proceed post-settlement? This sounds potentially disastrous.

The lawyers know that motion won’t be granted. If you think otherwise, you haven’t been paying attention to the judge’s decisions.

Hmmm.

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The settlement is more pro-Blake than the early rumors indicated, but it was accurate that no money has exchanged hands at this point.

(Obviously the new "really Baldoni got paid" claims were entirely spurious, but sure, keep claiming it's Blake people who have been trolls in this thread...)

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget that Blake/Ryan (and bots) always tell on themselves and copy others. I've followed this thread from the beginning and they are easy to spot. They keep repeating the same nonsense while pretending they are above everything. They spend ALL day responding to posts (even minor ones) in a vitriolic manner. They are desperately trying to throw out buzzwords like patriarchy, misogyny, faux ally and accusing Maga and the manosphere of being Baldoni's supporters. It's the Reynolds/Lively playback. Say it enough times and maybe it will stick. They are patting themselves on the back so hard they might break an arm with the pathetic and transparent attempt of a "victory" lap. Force it, smile, pretend everything is great and everyone will forget the embarrassing and ill-advised self-own. Their pr will feed statements from anonymous sources to gossip mags that everything worked out great for them. And the statement. Oh, the statement. Everyone deserves to be heard. It doesn't mean they were in the right. They will pretend that concept is hard to grasp.

Exactly. It obviously wasn't organic and it will 100% cease when the contract ends. Out of the $60 million this futile effort allegedly cost, I'm assuming literally millions of dollars were pissed away on "cyber narrative control." A fool and their money...

The sad thing to me is that you might actually believe this. Just... whoa.

Every Hollywood PR pro basically agrees with this take as does the general public. You're the outlier.

Actually I'm a real person who is a Blake supporter and a member of the "general public." Which is how I know you're wrong.

Actually, I'm a real person who is NOT a Blake supporter and a member of the "general public." Which is how I know you're wrong. Woah, keep being astonished people see through the machinations.

Has it occurred to you that after nearly 300 pages of back and forth in this thread, there are people who support both sides and simply don't agree on what happened here or who is at fault? I can see the appeal of believing that anyone who disagrees with you must be a "bot" or a paid supporter or something, but it's just not true. There are real people who agree with Blake and thing Justin/Wayfarer are in the wrong here. Obviously we recognize there are also people who think Blake lied and this is all her fault -- I'm not going to pretend you are not a real person or call you a bot. I believe that you really believe what you say here.

But only one side insists the other side isn't real. Only one side fills comment sections with hateful rhetoric to bully and harass anyone who supports Blake. And then that same side claims that Blake supporters *must* be fake because they don't do the same thing to Justin and his supporters. But it's actually just a difference in approach. It would never occur to me to go write nasty comments on Justin's IG -- that seems mean and unnecessary. It would never occur to me to follow pro-Justin content creators so that I could harass them in the comments, it seems like a waste of my time and, again, unkind.

I don't know why Justin supporters are so vicious. But the lack of vicious, aggressive online behavior from Blake supporters is not proof to me that we are not real. It's evidence perhaps of a different value set.

You don’t even need to go back five pages to find a Blake supporter saying that the Justin supporters are all fake (coupled with some ridiculous manosphere word salad) or repeated claims of sock puppeting (false, btw). The Blake supporter (s) get no respect because of this gaslighting, which you are also perpetuating.

I don't think the Justin supporters on this thread are all fake. I do think there are bots and fake accounts engaged in upcoming/down voting activity in Reddit, as well as engaging in the brigading on Blake's IG (when comments were open) and on tabloid comment sections and the comment sections for people who support or even are associated with her.

These are separate things. There are obviously people who genuinely support Justin. There is also clearly "inorganic" behavior online going after Blake and anyone even mildly associated, plus flodfing comment sections. Both can be true.

If Blake were paying for bots, why wouldn't she pay for positive comments in those same places?

She does, there is just more organic dislike for her than she can outbuy. She is spending millions on pr, including the ex FBI guy that did clean up for Airbnb.

That doesn't make sense. She's spending millions but you see no evidence of bot comments places like TMZ or Justin's IG account?

Most people don't care about either of these people -- it's a tiny fraction of the population that is invested at all, and am even smaller number invested enough to go post angry comments about it. Yet you see many such comments supporting Justin and virtually no activity like that supporting Blake. This does not lead me to the conclusion that Blake is spending millions on bot accounts.

There are pro Blake accounts on insta and X, most have shut off or limited comments and therefore get limited traffic. You just don’t understand social media.

She’s so disliked on social media that it must be fake is among the stupidest arguments I’ve seen here.

In any case, Baldoni certainly isn’t funding bots against Blake. Blake’s lawyers spent million on discovery and came up with nothing.

Her 40 million followers are not organic either. It’s hundreds of thousands if not millions of bots. It’s just really obvious. A Reddit thread captured that every Friday she buys like 20,000 and it will be like 10 Audrey’s with the same picture, 10 Zoe‘s with the same picture, it’s just so freaking fake.

There was also an article about how she used a bike campaign to try to get the Barbie movie. It was really obvious she would go out in like a pink dress and then all of a sudden comments would be flooded with “you should play Barbie” and OMG Barbie!” And it was largely fake and bot driven.

All celebs engage in this. And you can’t tell me that Blake’s PR people don’t have very tight relationships with some of the mainstream media who just blatantly manipulated things and got headlines wrong. And I’m sorry but getting a New York Times article about this frivolous dumb movie? That is PR power. That didn’t happen organically. Taylor Swift had been seen shopping around the story, including having a dinner with Ronan Farrow, who didn’t want to take it.

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Anonymous wrote:The settlement is more pro-Blake than the early rumors indicated, but it was accurate that no money has exchanged hands at this point.

(Obviously the new "really Baldoni got paid" claims were entirely spurious, but sure, keep claiming it's Blake people who have been trolls in this thread...)

How is it more pro-Blake than originally reported?

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget that Blake/Ryan (and bots) always tell on themselves and copy others. I've followed this thread from the beginning and they are easy to spot. They keep repeating the same nonsense while pretending they are above everything. They spend ALL day responding to posts (even minor ones) in a vitriolic manner. They are desperately trying to throw out buzzwords like patriarchy, misogyny, faux ally and accusing Maga and the manosphere of being Baldoni's supporters. It's the Reynolds/Lively playback. Say it enough times and maybe it will stick. They are patting themselves on the back so hard they might break an arm with the pathetic and transparent attempt of a "victory" lap. Force it, smile, pretend everything is great and everyone will forget the embarrassing and ill-advised self-own. Their pr will feed statements from anonymous sources to gossip mags that everything worked out great for them. And the statement. Oh, the statement. Everyone deserves to be heard. It doesn't mean they were in the right. They will pretend that concept is hard to grasp.

Exactly. It obviously wasn't organic and it will 100% cease when the contract ends. Out of the $60 million this futile effort allegedly cost, I'm assuming literally millions of dollars were pissed away on "cyber narrative control." A fool and their money...

The sad thing to me is that you might actually believe this. Just... whoa.

Every Hollywood PR pro basically agrees with this take as does the general public. You're the outlier.

Actually I'm a real person who is a Blake supporter and a member of the "general public." Which is how I know you're wrong.

Actually, I'm a real person who is NOT a Blake supporter and a member of the "general public." Which is how I know you're wrong. Woah, keep being astonished people see through the machinations.

Has it occurred to you that after nearly 300 pages of back and forth in this thread, there are people who support both sides and simply don't agree on what happened here or who is at fault? I can see the appeal of believing that anyone who disagrees with you must be a "bot" or a paid supporter or something, but it's just not true. There are real people who agree with Blake and thing Justin/Wayfarer are in the wrong here. Obviously we recognize there are also people who think Blake lied and this is all her fault -- I'm not going to pretend you are not a real person or call you a bot. I believe that you really believe what you say here.

But only one side insists the other side isn't real. Only one side fills comment sections with hateful rhetoric to bully and harass anyone who supports Blake. And then that same side claims that Blake supporters *must* be fake because they don't do the same thing to Justin and his supporters. But it's actually just a difference in approach. It would never occur to me to go write nasty comments on Justin's IG -- that seems mean and unnecessary. It would never occur to me to follow pro-Justin content creators so that I could harass them in the comments, it seems like a waste of my time and, again, unkind.

I don't know why Justin supporters are so vicious. But the lack of vicious, aggressive online behavior from Blake supporters is not proof to me that we are not real. It's evidence perhaps of a different value set.

You don’t even need to go back five pages to find a Blake supporter saying that the Justin supporters are all fake (coupled with some ridiculous manosphere word salad) or repeated claims of sock puppeting (false, btw). The Blake supporter (s) get no respect because of this gaslighting, which you are also perpetuating.

I don't think the Justin supporters on this thread are all fake. I do think there are bots and fake accounts engaged in upcoming/down voting activity in Reddit, as well as engaging in the brigading on Blake's IG (when comments were open) and on tabloid comment sections and the comment sections for people who support or even are associated with her.

These are separate things. There are obviously people who genuinely support Justin. There is also clearly "inorganic" behavior online going after Blake and anyone even mildly associated, plus flodfing comment sections. Both can be true.

If Blake were paying for bots, why wouldn't she pay for positive comments in those same places?

If this was truly inorganic behavior, the reactions to Blake at the Met gala would have been completely different.

Instead, she was getting massive side eye. No celebrities posed for photos with her. Everyone was keeping their distance and rolling their eyes.

It’s a bit much to try to suggest that Justin Baldoni controls A-listers at the met gala.

Is it really that difficult to believe Blake is an unlikable, aging actress and the backlash is real? It’s insane to insist that every negative reaction to revelations of horrible things she’s done is part of a calculated smear campaign orchestrated by Justin Baldoni. That’s tin foil hat level of crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget that Blake/Ryan (and bots) always tell on themselves and copy others. I've followed this thread from the beginning and they are easy to spot. They keep repeating the same nonsense while pretending they are above everything. They spend ALL day responding to posts (even minor ones) in a vitriolic manner. They are desperately trying to throw out buzzwords like patriarchy, misogyny, faux ally and accusing Maga and the manosphere of being Baldoni's supporters. It's the Reynolds/Lively playback. Say it enough times and maybe it will stick. They are patting themselves on the back so hard they might break an arm with the pathetic and transparent attempt of a "victory" lap. Force it, smile, pretend everything is great and everyone will forget the embarrassing and ill-advised self-own. Their pr will feed statements from anonymous sources to gossip mags that everything worked out great for them. And the statement. Oh, the statement. Everyone deserves to be heard. It doesn't mean they were in the right. They will pretend that concept is hard to grasp.

Exactly. It obviously wasn't organic and it will 100% cease when the contract ends. Out of the $60 million this futile effort allegedly cost, I'm assuming literally millions of dollars were pissed away on "cyber narrative control." A fool and their money...

The sad thing to me is that you might actually believe this. Just... whoa.

Every Hollywood PR pro basically agrees with this take as does the general public. You're the outlier.

Actually I'm a real person who is a Blake supporter and a member of the "general public." Which is how I know you're wrong.

Actually, I'm a real person who is NOT a Blake supporter and a member of the "general public." Which is how I know you're wrong. Woah, keep being astonished people see through the machinations.

Has it occurred to you that after nearly 300 pages of back and forth in this thread, there are people who support both sides and simply don't agree on what happened here or who is at fault? I can see the appeal of believing that anyone who disagrees with you must be a "bot" or a paid supporter or something, but it's just not true. There are real people who agree with Blake and thing Justin/Wayfarer are in the wrong here. Obviously we recognize there are also people who think Blake lied and this is all her fault -- I'm not going to pretend you are not a real person or call you a bot. I believe that you really believe what you say here.

But only one side insists the other side isn't real. Only one side fills comment sections with hateful rhetoric to bully and harass anyone who supports Blake. And then that same side claims that Blake supporters *must* be fake because they don't do the same thing to Justin and his supporters. But it's actually just a difference in approach. It would never occur to me to go write nasty comments on Justin's IG -- that seems mean and unnecessary. It would never occur to me to follow pro-Justin content creators so that I could harass them in the comments, it seems like a waste of my time and, again, unkind.

I don't know why Justin supporters are so vicious. But the lack of vicious, aggressive online behavior from Blake supporters is not proof to me that we are not real. It's evidence perhaps of a different value set.

You don’t even need to go back five pages to find a Blake supporter saying that the Justin supporters are all fake (coupled with some ridiculous manosphere word salad) or repeated claims of sock puppeting (false, btw). The Blake supporter (s) get no respect because of this gaslighting, which you are also perpetuating.

I don't think the Justin supporters on this thread are all fake. I do think there are bots and fake accounts engaged in upcoming/down voting activity in Reddit, as well as engaging in the brigading on Blake's IG (when comments were open) and on tabloid comment sections and the comment sections for people who support or even are associated with her.

These are separate things. There are obviously people who genuinely support Justin. There is also clearly "inorganic" behavior online going after Blake and anyone even mildly associated, plus flodfing comment sections. Both can be true.

If Blake were paying for bots, why wouldn't she pay for positive comments in those same places?

She does, there is just more organic dislike for her than she can outbuy. She is spending millions on pr, including the ex FBI guy that did clean up for Airbnb.

DP here and yes Blake does pay for comments on TikTok. they are pretty obvious