FCPS Boundary Review Updates

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Today’s THE BRAC meeting day. When do we think they’ll have capacity maps posted by?


I thought they were meeting every 2 weeks on Friday? I assumed the next meeting would be this coming Friday and slides would then be posted Monday-Tuesday beginning of next week unless they changed the schedule?


It’s this evening.

They’re required to make the meeting public under FOIA, so how do we attend?



You CANNOT be denied access to the meeting.

If meeting officials ask the police to remove you, ask the police to charge the FCPS officials with a crime, and when they inevitably refuse, demand a police report. Get the officers’ names; cooperate; get the full names of exactly who asked you to be excluded.

The salaries of both the FCPS officials and the FCPD are both paid by you. They work for you. You are entitled to accountability, but you need to collect evidence to build a case for way your rights are being violated if they deny you access.


Genuinely asking you to do this then.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon


It's going to get VERY interesting if they propose to move people out of Chantilly and West Springfield but leave Langley untouched. Once again FCPS will have talked a good game about equity, and then turned around and screwed the middle class while favoring the wealthiest.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon


Such. A. Tease.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Happy BRAC day!


Regardless of your feelings on the boundaries, the fact that you revel in this knowing that tens of thousands of your community will suffer negative impacts, including mental health issues for lots of these kids, makes you a truly repugnant person.


Or some people might have a different thought on all of this and think that it won’t be nearly as dramatic as you think it is. There are many different opinions.

Kids moving from one school to another will be moving with their classmates from their same ES and will have the support of their family, friends, and the new school they are moving to. More likely then not, there will be other kids moving into that school and others moving out. They are not moving by themselves. I am sure some kids will struggle but I doubt that there will be the massive mental health issues that you seem to think that there will be. The move might even be good for some kids.


The fact that they will be moving with friends from same elementary school is not necessarily true. And, you sound like someone who has not understood how this will affect families that have kids in more than one high school--or elementary school. I guess it is unlikely that you would have kids in two middle schools, but that also might be possible.
Have you considered the support of family in these circumstances? Having to go in two different directions for activities, sports, etc? Think of the single parent. Two PTA dues. Two sets of spirit gear. Etc.
We've talked a lot about this as it applies to high schools, but this could also affect elementary.

And, the issue of IB/AP has not been addressed.

You sound like a parent who wants other kids districted into your school. In this case, you are not going to have the very difficult adjustments.

And, we have yet to discuss staffing.


I see, so your point of view is the only one that matters and that there are other people with different thoughts and considerations is immaterial. Got it. You do your best to try and make anyone who posts a different thought then yours look selfish while you are trying to defend the mental well being of all kids and don’t have any personal bias for wanting to stay where you are.

We get it, you don’t want your child to change schools for a variety or legitimate reasons. The problem is that there are legitimate reasons to adjust boundaries and that boundaries are going to shift. You could careless if kids are moved from a school that isn’t yours because you don’t want to move to Lewis or Herndon or whatever school that is not as good as the school you are currently at.

Guess what? I don’t want my kid to move schools. We are in the middle of the Centerville, Chantilly, Oakton, Westfield, South Lakes, Herndon mess. The number of ways kids have moved my kids cohort is impressive. I fully expect that my kid will move or his friends will move and it will be disruptive. I don’t see how the County maintains its current boundaries with the way some of the schools are overcrowded. And I don’t think that it is a matter of moving on the margins. The moves to fix the overcrowding in this area is likely to have ripple effects. The question is how do we make those moves with as much support as possible while diminishing disruption.


You’re conflating posters again.

But just to repeat, no one wants these changes - Christ you don’t even want them. Don’t advocate to hurt families just because you think it’s inevitable.

Try fighting for your kids for a change - you might find that it’s a little bit easier to live with yourself.


It is impossible not to conflate posters on this site. We all end up lumping posters together.

Do I want my kid to move? No.

Do I get that he might because there are schools, ES and HS, that are way over crowded? Yes.

Do I think that is wonderful? No.

I do I understand the necessity? Yes.

I don’t think other kids should be in over crowded schools so that my kid can stay at his school.

Do I think that they should adjust all the schools? No. But they should relieve the over crowded schools and that means that there are going to be multiple schools moved.

And I don’t think the answer is expanding schools or building a new school. 1) We have schools massivly overcrowded now that have needed relief for years. Expansion and/or building a new school is not going to solve the problem that has existed and continues to exist. Especially when we have schools with space that we can use. Fiscally, the responsible thing to do is shift the boundaries where we can.

And dump IB, it is a financial drain that is massively underutilized. Not that it actually ties into the boundary discussion but it is another cost savings measure that would be useful.


Given your supposed altruism, I’m sure you’ve volunteered to have your kid transfer to the lowest performing school near you, right? Right?

Didn’t think so. You hypocrites are all the same.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon


It's going to get VERY interesting if they propose to move people out of Chantilly and West Springfield but leave Langley untouched. Once again FCPS will have talked a good game about equity, and then turned around and screwed the middle class while favoring the wealthiest.


We found the most absurd take on the whole thread.

Any assertion that the “strip club squad” favors Langley is the most preposterous thing you could say.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Happy BRAC day!


Regardless of your feelings on the boundaries, the fact that you revel in this knowing that tens of thousands of your community will suffer negative impacts, including mental health issues for lots of these kids, makes you a truly repugnant person.


Or some people might have a different thought on all of this and think that it won’t be nearly as dramatic as you think it is. There are many different opinions.

Kids moving from one school to another will be moving with their classmates from their same ES and will have the support of their family, friends, and the new school they are moving to. More likely then not, there will be other kids moving into that school and others moving out. They are not moving by themselves. I am sure some kids will struggle but I doubt that there will be the massive mental health issues that you seem to think that there will be. The move might even be good for some kids.


The fact that they will be moving with friends from same elementary school is not necessarily true. And, you sound like someone who has not understood how this will affect families that have kids in more than one high school--or elementary school. I guess it is unlikely that you would have kids in two middle schools, but that also might be possible.
Have you considered the support of family in these circumstances? Having to go in two different directions for activities, sports, etc? Think of the single parent. Two PTA dues. Two sets of spirit gear. Etc.
We've talked a lot about this as it applies to high schools, but this could also affect elementary.

And, the issue of IB/AP has not been addressed.

You sound like a parent who wants other kids districted into your school. In this case, you are not going to have the very difficult adjustments.

And, we have yet to discuss staffing.


I see, so your point of view is the only one that matters and that there are other people with different thoughts and considerations is immaterial. Got it. You do your best to try and make anyone who posts a different thought then yours look selfish while you are trying to defend the mental well being of all kids and don’t have any personal bias for wanting to stay where you are.

We get it, you don’t want your child to change schools for a variety or legitimate reasons. The problem is that there are legitimate reasons to adjust boundaries and that boundaries are going to shift. You could careless if kids are moved from a school that isn’t yours because you don’t want to move to Lewis or Herndon or whatever school that is not as good as the school you are currently at.

Guess what? I don’t want my kid to move schools. We are in the middle of the Centerville, Chantilly, Oakton, Westfield, South Lakes, Herndon mess. The number of ways kids have moved my kids cohort is impressive. I fully expect that my kid will move or his friends will move and it will be disruptive. I don’t see how the County maintains its current boundaries with the way some of the schools are overcrowded. And I don’t think that it is a matter of moving on the margins. The moves to fix the overcrowding in this area is likely to have ripple effects. The question is how do we make those moves with as much support as possible while diminishing disruption.


You’re conflating posters again.

But just to repeat, no one wants these changes - Christ you don’t even want them. Don’t advocate to hurt families just because you think it’s inevitable.

Try fighting for your kids for a change - you might find that it’s a little bit easier to live with yourself.


It is impossible not to conflate posters on this site. We all end up lumping posters together.

Do I want my kid to move? No.

Do I get that he might because there are schools, ES and HS, that are way over crowded? Yes.

Do I think that is wonderful? No.

I do I understand the necessity? Yes.

I don’t think other kids should be in over crowded schools so that my kid can stay at his school.

Do I think that they should adjust all the schools? No. But they should relieve the over crowded schools and that means that there are going to be multiple schools moved.

And I don’t think the answer is expanding schools or building a new school. 1) We have schools massivly overcrowded now that have needed relief for years. Expansion and/or building a new school is not going to solve the problem that has existed and continues to exist. Especially when we have schools with space that we can use. Fiscally, the responsible thing to do is shift the boundaries where we can.

And dump IB, it is a financial drain that is massively underutilized. Not that it actually ties into the boundary discussion but it is another cost savings measure that would be useful.




I don’t think other kids should be in over crowded schools so that my kid can stay at his school.


There is nothing stopping parents who feel like this bolded part from pupil placing from your zoned crowded school to the adjacent under enrolled school, to free up space and take one for the team.

Why do you want to force other families to join you?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon


Not nearly good enough. The school board created BRAC, and is required to allow the public to attend.


No, it didn’t. The Superintendent created it. It’s her advisory committee, not the Board’s.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon


Not nearly good enough. The school board created BRAC, and is required to allow the public to attend.


No, it didn’t. The Superintendent created it. It’s her advisory committee, not the Board’s.


Don’t lie. The school board voted to create the committee. It’s a school board committee. You can’t just call it a superintendent committee to evade FOIA.

This stuff matters. We shouldn’t be a lawless county.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon


Not nearly good enough. The school board created BRAC, and is required to allow the public to attend.


Have you reached out to BRAC to ask them for the time and location of the meeting? You seem to be very passionate about this so I'm curious if you've actually taken steps to try to attend
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon


Not nearly good enough. The school board created BRAC, and is required to allow the public to attend.


No, it didn’t. The Superintendent created it. It’s her advisory committee, not the Board’s.


Actually, the school board created it.

You can look it up on board docs videos
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon


Not nearly good enough. The school board created BRAC, and is required to allow the public to attend.


No, it didn’t. The Superintendent created it. It’s her advisory committee, not the Board’s.


Actually, the school board created it.

You can look it up on board docs videos


https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-2026-boundary-review/superintendents-boundary-review-advisory-committee
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon


Not nearly good enough. The school board created BRAC, and is required to allow the public to attend.


No, it didn’t. The Superintendent created it. It’s her advisory committee, not the Board’s.


Actually, the school board created it.

You can look it up on board docs videos


The problem with political cults is that the members never bother to question their leaders and whether they are doing illegal things.

The same goes for the FCPS school board cult.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Happy BRAC day!


Regardless of your feelings on the boundaries, the fact that you revel in this knowing that tens of thousands of your community will suffer negative impacts, including mental health issues for lots of these kids, makes you a truly repugnant person.


Or some people might have a different thought on all of this and think that it won’t be nearly as dramatic as you think it is. There are many different opinions.

Kids moving from one school to another will be moving with their classmates from their same ES and will have the support of their family, friends, and the new school they are moving to. More likely then not, there will be other kids moving into that school and others moving out. They are not moving by themselves. I am sure some kids will struggle but I doubt that there will be the massive mental health issues that you seem to think that there will be. The move might even be good for some kids.


The fact that they will be moving with friends from same elementary school is not necessarily true. And, you sound like someone who has not understood how this will affect families that have kids in more than one high school--or elementary school. I guess it is unlikely that you would have kids in two middle schools, but that also might be possible.
Have you considered the support of family in these circumstances? Having to go in two different directions for activities, sports, etc? Think of the single parent. Two PTA dues. Two sets of spirit gear. Etc.
We've talked a lot about this as it applies to high schools, but this could also affect elementary.

And, the issue of IB/AP has not been addressed.

You sound like a parent who wants other kids districted into your school. In this case, you are not going to have the very difficult adjustments.

And, we have yet to discuss staffing.


I see, so your point of view is the only one that matters and that there are other people with different thoughts and considerations is immaterial. Got it. You do your best to try and make anyone who posts a different thought then yours look selfish while you are trying to defend the mental well being of all kids and don’t have any personal bias for wanting to stay where you are.

We get it, you don’t want your child to change schools for a variety or legitimate reasons. The problem is that there are legitimate reasons to adjust boundaries and that boundaries are going to shift. You could careless if kids are moved from a school that isn’t yours because you don’t want to move to Lewis or Herndon or whatever school that is not as good as the school you are currently at.

Guess what? I don’t want my kid to move schools. We are in the middle of the Centerville, Chantilly, Oakton, Westfield, South Lakes, Herndon mess. The number of ways kids have moved my kids cohort is impressive. I fully expect that my kid will move or his friends will move and it will be disruptive. I don’t see how the County maintains its current boundaries with the way some of the schools are overcrowded. And I don’t think that it is a matter of moving on the margins. The moves to fix the overcrowding in this area is likely to have ripple effects. The question is how do we make those moves with as much support as possible while diminishing disruption.


You’re conflating posters again.

But just to repeat, no one wants these changes - Christ you don’t even want them. Don’t advocate to hurt families just because you think it’s inevitable.

Try fighting for your kids for a change - you might find that it’s a little bit easier to live with yourself.


It is impossible not to conflate posters on this site. We all end up lumping posters together.

Do I want my kid to move? No.

Do I get that he might because there are schools, ES and HS, that are way over crowded? Yes.

Do I think that is wonderful? No.

I do I understand the necessity? Yes.

I don’t think other kids should be in over crowded schools so that my kid can stay at his school.

Do I think that they should adjust all the schools? No. But they should relieve the over crowded schools and that means that there are going to be multiple schools moved.

And I don’t think the answer is expanding schools or building a new school. 1) We have schools massivly overcrowded now that have needed relief for years. Expansion and/or building a new school is not going to solve the problem that has existed and continues to exist. Especially when we have schools with space that we can use. Fiscally, the responsible thing to do is shift the boundaries where we can.

And dump IB, it is a financial drain that is massively underutilized. Not that it actually ties into the boundary discussion but it is another cost savings measure that would be useful.


I would argue that IB very much ties to the boundary discussion. Some of the lowest performing schools are IB with high performing students leaving to attend a nearby AP. It confuses the capacity numbers and geography lines could be redrawn to make up for this gap vs bringing them back to their home school with similar programming. Give every HS core languages and put the extras online.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon


It's going to get VERY interesting if they propose to move people out of Chantilly and West Springfield but leave Langley untouched. Once again FCPS will have talked a good game about equity, and then turned around and screwed the middle class while favoring the wealthiest.


We found the most absurd take on the whole thread.

Any assertion that the “strip club squad” favors Langley is the most preposterous thing you could say.


When has Langley ever not gotten what it wanted?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon


Not nearly good enough. The school board created BRAC, and is required to allow the public to attend.


No, it didn’t. The Superintendent created it. It’s her advisory committee, not the Board’s.


Actually, the school board created it.

You can look it up on board docs videos


https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-2026-boundary-review/superintendents-boundary-review-advisory-committee


This link shows it’s a superintendent committee.
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