FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Guess what? I don’t want my kid to move schools. We are in the middle of the Centerville, Chantilly, Oakton, Westfield, South Lakes, Herndon mess. The number of ways kids have moved my kids cohort is impressive.

Could you explain this? I don't understand the way your kid's cohort has moved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Happy BRAC day!

Regardless of your feelings on the boundaries, the fact that you revel in this knowing that tens of thousands of your community will suffer negative impacts, including mental health issues for lots of these kids, makes you a truly repugnant person.

Or some people might have a different thought on all of this and think that it won’t be nearly as dramatic as you think it is. There are many different opinions.

Kids moving from one school to another will be moving with their classmates from their same ES and will have the support of their family, friends, and the new school they are moving to. More likely then not, there will be other kids moving into that school and others moving out. They are not moving by themselves. I am sure some kids will struggle but I doubt that there will be the massive mental health issues that you seem to think that there will be. The move might even be good for some kids.

The fact that they will be moving with friends from same elementary school is not necessarily true. And, you sound like someone who has not understood how this will affect families that have kids in more than one high school--or elementary school. I guess it is unlikely that you would have kids in two middle schools, but that also might be possible.
Have you considered the support of family in these circumstances? Having to go in two different directions for activities, sports, etc? Think of the single parent. Two PTA dues. Two sets of spirit gear. Etc.
We've talked a lot about this as it applies to high schools, but this could also affect elementary.

And, the issue of IB/AP has not been addressed.

You sound like a parent who wants other kids districted into your school. In this case, you are not going to have the very difficult adjustments.

And, we have yet to discuss staffing.

I see, so your point of view is the only one that matters and that there are other people with different thoughts and considerations is immaterial. Got it. You do your best to try and make anyone who posts a different thought then yours look selfish while you are trying to defend the mental well being of all kids and don’t have any personal bias for wanting to stay where you are.

We get it, you don’t want your child to change schools for a variety or legitimate reasons. The problem is that there are legitimate reasons to adjust boundaries and that boundaries are going to shift. You could careless if kids are moved from a school that isn’t yours because you don’t want to move to Lewis or Herndon or whatever school that is not as good as the school you are currently at.

Guess what? I don’t want my kid to move schools. We are in the middle of the Centerville, Chantilly, Oakton, Westfield, South Lakes, Herndon mess. The number of ways kids have moved my kids cohort is impressive. I fully expect that my kid will move or his friends will move and it will be disruptive. I don’t see how the County maintains its current boundaries with the way some of the schools are overcrowded. And I don’t think that it is a matter of moving on the margins. The moves to fix the overcrowding in this area is likely to have ripple effects. The question is how do we make those moves with as much support as possible while diminishing disruption.

You’re conflating posters again.

But just to repeat, no one wants these changes - Christ you don’t even want them. Don’t advocate to hurt families just because you think it’s inevitable.

Try fighting for your kids for a change - you might find that it’s a little bit easier to live with yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Happy BRAC day!

Regardless of your feelings on the boundaries, the fact that you revel in this knowing that tens of thousands of your community will suffer negative impacts, including mental health issues for lots of these kids, makes you a truly repugnant person.

Or some people might have a different thought on all of this and think that it won’t be nearly as dramatic as you think it is. There are many different opinions.

Kids moving from one school to another will be moving with their classmates from their same ES and will have the support of their family, friends, and the new school they are moving to. More likely then not, there will be other kids moving into that school and others moving out. They are not moving by themselves. I am sure some kids will struggle but I doubt that there will be the massive mental health issues that you seem to think that there will be. The move might even be good for some kids.

The fact that they will be moving with friends from same elementary school is not necessarily true. And, you sound like someone who has not understood how this will affect families that have kids in more than one high school--or elementary school. I guess it is unlikely that you would have kids in two middle schools, but that also might be possible.
Have you considered the support of family in these circumstances? Having to go in two different directions for activities, sports, etc? Think of the single parent. Two PTA dues. Two sets of spirit gear. Etc.
We've talked a lot about this as it applies to high schools, but this could also affect elementary.

And, the issue of IB/AP has not been addressed.

You sound like a parent who wants other kids districted into your school. In this case, you are not going to have the very difficult adjustments.

And, we have yet to discuss staffing.

I see, so your point of view is the only one that matters and that there are other people with different thoughts and considerations is immaterial. Got it. You do your best to try and make anyone who posts a different thought then yours look selfish while you are trying to defend the mental well being of all kids and don’t have any personal bias for wanting to stay where you are.

We get it, you don’t want your child to change schools for a variety or legitimate reasons. The problem is that there are legitimate reasons to adjust boundaries and that boundaries are going to shift. You could careless if kids are moved from a school that isn’t yours because you don’t want to move to Lewis or Herndon or whatever school that is not as good as the school you are currently at.

Guess what? I don’t want my kid to move schools. We are in the middle of the Centerville, Chantilly, Oakton, Westfield, South Lakes, Herndon mess. The number of ways kids have moved my kids cohort is impressive. I fully expect that my kid will move or his friends will move and it will be disruptive. I don’t see how the County maintains its current boundaries with the way some of the schools are overcrowded. And I don’t think that it is a matter of moving on the margins. The moves to fix the overcrowding in this area is likely to have ripple effects. The question is how do we make those moves with as much support as possible while diminishing disruption.

You’re conflating posters again.

But just to repeat, no one wants these changes - Christ you don’t even want them. Don’t advocate to hurt families just because you think it’s inevitable.

Try fighting for your kids for a change - you might find that it’s a little bit easier to live with yourself.

NP. Please do not speak for all fcps families. Some of us are in favor of some reasonable change, we just may not be as loud and organized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Happy BRAC day!

Regardless of your feelings on the boundaries, the fact that you revel in this knowing that tens of thousands of your community will suffer negative impacts, including mental health issues for lots of these kids, makes you a truly repugnant person.

Or some people might have a different thought on all of this and think that it won’t be nearly as dramatic as you think it is. There are many different opinions.

Kids moving from one school to another will be moving with their classmates from their same ES and will have the support of their family, friends, and the new school they are moving to. More likely then not, there will be other kids moving into that school and others moving out. They are not moving by themselves. I am sure some kids will struggle but I doubt that there will be the massive mental health issues that you seem to think that there will be. The move might even be good for some kids.

The fact that they will be moving with friends from same elementary school is not necessarily true. And, you sound like someone who has not understood how this will affect families that have kids in more than one high school--or elementary school. I guess it is unlikely that you would have kids in two middle schools, but that also might be possible.
Have you considered the support of family in these circumstances? Having to go in two different directions for activities, sports, etc? Think of the single parent. Two PTA dues. Two sets of spirit gear. Etc.
We've talked a lot about this as it applies to high schools, but this could also affect elementary.

And, the issue of IB/AP has not been addressed.

You sound like a parent who wants other kids districted into your school. In this case, you are not going to have the very difficult adjustments.

And, we have yet to discuss staffing.

I see, so your point of view is the only one that matters and that there are other people with different thoughts and considerations is immaterial. Got it. You do your best to try and make anyone who posts a different thought then yours look selfish while you are trying to defend the mental well being of all kids and don’t have any personal bias for wanting to stay where you are.

We get it, you don’t want your child to change schools for a variety or legitimate reasons. The problem is that there are legitimate reasons to adjust boundaries and that boundaries are going to shift. You could careless if kids are moved from a school that isn’t yours because you don’t want to move to Lewis or Herndon or whatever school that is not as good as the school you are currently at.

Guess what? I don’t want my kid to move schools. We are in the middle of the Centerville, Chantilly, Oakton, Westfield, South Lakes, Herndon mess. The number of ways kids have moved my kids cohort is impressive. I fully expect that my kid will move or his friends will move and it will be disruptive. I don’t see how the County maintains its current boundaries with the way some of the schools are overcrowded. And I don’t think that it is a matter of moving on the margins. The moves to fix the overcrowding in this area is likely to have ripple effects. The question is how do we make those moves with as much support as possible while diminishing disruption.

You’re conflating posters again.

But just to repeat, no one wants these changes - Christ you don’t even want them. Don’t advocate to hurt families just because you think it’s inevitable.

Try fighting for your kids for a change - you might find that it’s a little bit easier to live with yourself.

NP. Please do not speak for all fcps families. Some of us are in favor of some reasonable change, we just may not be as loud and organized.

I don't think anyone objects to reasonable change. The issue is that many of these changes may not be reasonable. Playing a game of dominoes is not reasonable.

Slight adjustments where needed are reasonable.

So far, I see a couple of moves in my area. Not sure either is reasonable. One seems unreasonable and the other so-so. Neither affect my neighborhood having to move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Happy BRAC day!

Regardless of your feelings on the boundaries, the fact that you revel in this knowing that tens of thousands of your community will suffer negative impacts, including mental health issues for lots of these kids, makes you a truly repugnant person.

Or some people might have a different thought on all of this and think that it won’t be nearly as dramatic as you think it is. There are many different opinions.

Kids moving from one school to another will be moving with their classmates from their same ES and will have the support of their family, friends, and the new school they are moving to. More likely then not, there will be other kids moving into that school and others moving out. They are not moving by themselves. I am sure some kids will struggle but I doubt that there will be the massive mental health issues that you seem to think that there will be. The move might even be good for some kids.

The fact that they will be moving with friends from same elementary school is not necessarily true. And, you sound like someone who has not understood how this will affect families that have kids in more than one high school--or elementary school. I guess it is unlikely that you would have kids in two middle schools, but that also might be possible.
Have you considered the support of family in these circumstances? Having to go in two different directions for activities, sports, etc? Think of the single parent. Two PTA dues. Two sets of spirit gear. Etc.
We've talked a lot about this as it applies to high schools, but this could also affect elementary.

And, the issue of IB/AP has not been addressed.

You sound like a parent who wants other kids districted into your school. In this case, you are not going to have the very difficult adjustments.

And, we have yet to discuss staffing.

I see, so your point of view is the only one that matters and that there are other people with different thoughts and considerations is immaterial. Got it. You do your best to try and make anyone who posts a different thought then yours look selfish while you are trying to defend the mental well being of all kids and don’t have any personal bias for wanting to stay where you are.

We get it, you don’t want your child to change schools for a variety or legitimate reasons. The problem is that there are legitimate reasons to adjust boundaries and that boundaries are going to shift. You could careless if kids are moved from a school that isn’t yours because you don’t want to move to Lewis or Herndon or whatever school that is not as good as the school you are currently at.

Guess what? I don’t want my kid to move schools. We are in the middle of the Centerville, Chantilly, Oakton, Westfield, South Lakes, Herndon mess. The number of ways kids have moved my kids cohort is impressive. I fully expect that my kid will move or his friends will move and it will be disruptive. I don’t see how the County maintains its current boundaries with the way some of the schools are overcrowded. And I don’t think that it is a matter of moving on the margins. The moves to fix the overcrowding in this area is likely to have ripple effects. The question is how do we make those moves with as much support as possible while diminishing disruption.

You’re conflating posters again.

But just to repeat, no one wants these changes - Christ you don’t even want them. Don’t advocate to hurt families just because you think it’s inevitable.

Try fighting for your kids for a change - you might find that it’s a little bit easier to live with yourself.

NP. Please do not speak for all fcps families. Some of us are in favor of some reasonable change, we just may not be as loud and organized.

If you aren’t as loud and organized it’s because you’re reluctant to champion in public a strategy that hinges on disrupting the lives of other people’s kids to paper over low performance at schools saddled with ill-suited academic programs or to advance your own financial interests.

I hope this boundary review process ends the political careers of most School Board members because they haven’t even remotely been honest about their motives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Happy BRAC day!

Regardless of your feelings on the boundaries, the fact that you revel in this knowing that tens of thousands of your community will suffer negative impacts, including mental health issues for lots of these kids, makes you a truly repugnant person.

Or some people might have a different thought on all of this and think that it won’t be nearly as dramatic as you think it is. There are many different opinions.

Kids moving from one school to another will be moving with their classmates from their same ES and will have the support of their family, friends, and the new school they are moving to. More likely then not, there will be other kids moving into that school and others moving out. They are not moving by themselves. I am sure some kids will struggle but I doubt that there will be the massive mental health issues that you seem to think that there will be. The move might even be good for some kids.

The fact that they will be moving with friends from same elementary school is not necessarily true. And, you sound like someone who has not understood how this will affect families that have kids in more than one high school--or elementary school. I guess it is unlikely that you would have kids in two middle schools, but that also might be possible.
Have you considered the support of family in these circumstances? Having to go in two different directions for activities, sports, etc? Think of the single parent. Two PTA dues. Two sets of spirit gear. Etc.
We've talked a lot about this as it applies to high schools, but this could also affect elementary.

And, the issue of IB/AP has not been addressed.

You sound like a parent who wants other kids districted into your school. In this case, you are not going to have the very difficult adjustments.

And, we have yet to discuss staffing.

I see, so your point of view is the only one that matters and that there are other people with different thoughts and considerations is immaterial. Got it. You do your best to try and make anyone who posts a different thought then yours look selfish while you are trying to defend the mental well being of all kids and don’t have any personal bias for wanting to stay where you are.

We get it, you don’t want your child to change schools for a variety or legitimate reasons. The problem is that there are legitimate reasons to adjust boundaries and that boundaries are going to shift. You could careless if kids are moved from a school that isn’t yours because you don’t want to move to Lewis or Herndon or whatever school that is not as good as the school you are currently at.

Guess what? I don’t want my kid to move schools. We are in the middle of the Centerville, Chantilly, Oakton, Westfield, South Lakes, Herndon mess. The number of ways kids have moved my kids cohort is impressive. I fully expect that my kid will move or his friends will move and it will be disruptive. I don’t see how the County maintains its current boundaries with the way some of the schools are overcrowded. And I don’t think that it is a matter of moving on the margins. The moves to fix the overcrowding in this area is likely to have ripple effects. The question is how do we make those moves with as much support as possible while diminishing disruption.

You’re conflating posters again.

But just to repeat, no one wants these changes - Christ you don’t even want them. Don’t advocate to hurt families just because you think it’s inevitable.

Try fighting for your kids for a change - you might find that it’s a little bit easier to live with yourself.

NP. Please do not speak for all fcps families. Some of us are in favor of some reasonable change, we just may not be as loud and organized.

Fair. There is a guy that I’ve heard about who wants a handout from the county in the form of being moved to a school pyramid he is not currently zoned for. Wants to mooch off the backs of his neighbors.

So I guess you’re right that you and he want these changes. Or maybe you are that guy?

[Anonymous]

Today’s THE BRAC meeting day. When do we think they’ll have capacity maps posted by?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Today’s THE BRAC meeting day. When do we think they’ll have capacity maps posted by?

I thought they were meeting every 2 weeks on Friday? I assumed the next meeting would be this coming Friday and slides would then be posted Monday-Tuesday beginning of next week unless they changed the schedule?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today’s THE BRAC meeting day. When do we think they’ll have capacity maps posted by?

I thought they were meeting every 2 weeks on Friday? I assumed the next meeting would be this coming Friday and slides would then be posted Monday-Tuesday beginning of next week unless they changed the schedule?

It’s this evening.

They’re required to make the meeting public under FOIA, so how do we attend?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today’s THE BRAC meeting day. When do we think they’ll have capacity maps posted by?

I thought they were meeting every 2 weeks on Friday? I assumed the next meeting would be this coming Friday and slides would then be posted Monday-Tuesday beginning of next week unless they changed the schedule?

It’s this evening.

They’re required to make the meeting public under FOIA, so how do we attend?

Hah, well, they aren’t doing that unfortunately. I guess the slides are all we get.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today’s THE BRAC meeting day. When do we think they’ll have capacity maps posted by?

I thought they were meeting every 2 weeks on Friday? I assumed the next meeting would be this coming Friday and slides would then be posted Monday-Tuesday beginning of next week unless they changed the schedule?

It’s this evening.

They’re required to make the meeting public under FOIA, so how do we attend?

Hah, well, they aren’t doing that unfortunately. I guess the slides are all we get.

But that’s illegal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today’s THE BRAC meeting day. When do we think they’ll have capacity maps posted by?

I thought they were meeting every 2 weeks on Friday? I assumed the next meeting would be this coming Friday and slides would then be posted Monday-Tuesday beginning of next week unless they changed the schedule?

It’s this evening.

They’re required to make the meeting public under FOIA, so how do we attend?

You CANNOT be denied access to the meeting.

If meeting officials ask the police to remove you, ask the police to charge the FCPS officials with a crime, and when they inevitably refuse, demand a police report. Get the officers’ names; cooperate; get the full names of exactly who asked you to be excluded.

The salaries of both the FCPS officials and the FCPD are both paid by you. They work for you. You are entitled to accountability, but you need to collect evidence to build a case for way your rights are being violated if they deny you access.

[Anonymous]

According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon

Not nearly good enough. The school board created BRAC, and is required to allow the public to attend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Happy BRAC day!

Regardless of your feelings on the boundaries, the fact that you revel in this knowing that tens of thousands of your community will suffer negative impacts, including mental health issues for lots of these kids, makes you a truly repugnant person.

Or some people might have a different thought on all of this and think that it won’t be nearly as dramatic as you think it is. There are many different opinions.

Kids moving from one school to another will be moving with their classmates from their same ES and will have the support of their family, friends, and the new school they are moving to. More likely then not, there will be other kids moving into that school and others moving out. They are not moving by themselves. I am sure some kids will struggle but I doubt that there will be the massive mental health issues that you seem to think that there will be. The move might even be good for some kids.

The fact that they will be moving with friends from same elementary school is not necessarily true. And, you sound like someone who has not understood how this will affect families that have kids in more than one high school--or elementary school. I guess it is unlikely that you would have kids in two middle schools, but that also might be possible.
Have you considered the support of family in these circumstances? Having to go in two different directions for activities, sports, etc? Think of the single parent. Two PTA dues. Two sets of spirit gear. Etc.
We've talked a lot about this as it applies to high schools, but this could also affect elementary.

And, the issue of IB/AP has not been addressed.

You sound like a parent who wants other kids districted into your school. In this case, you are not going to have the very difficult adjustments.

And, we have yet to discuss staffing.

I see, so your point of view is the only one that matters and that there are other people with different thoughts and considerations is immaterial. Got it. You do your best to try and make anyone who posts a different thought then yours look selfish while you are trying to defend the mental well being of all kids and don’t have any personal bias for wanting to stay where you are.

We get it, you don’t want your child to change schools for a variety or legitimate reasons. The problem is that there are legitimate reasons to adjust boundaries and that boundaries are going to shift. You could careless if kids are moved from a school that isn’t yours because you don’t want to move to Lewis or Herndon or whatever school that is not as good as the school you are currently at.

Guess what? I don’t want my kid to move schools. We are in the middle of the Centerville, Chantilly, Oakton, Westfield, South Lakes, Herndon mess. The number of ways kids have moved my kids cohort is impressive. I fully expect that my kid will move or his friends will move and it will be disruptive. I don’t see how the County maintains its current boundaries with the way some of the schools are overcrowded. And I don’t think that it is a matter of moving on the margins. The moves to fix the overcrowding in this area is likely to have ripple effects. The question is how do we make those moves with as much support as possible while diminishing disruption.

You’re conflating posters again.

But just to repeat, no one wants these changes - Christ you don’t even want them. Don’t advocate to hurt families just because you think it’s inevitable.

Try fighting for your kids for a change - you might find that it’s a little bit easier to live with yourself.

It is impossible not to conflate posters on this site. We all end up lumping posters together.

Do I want my kid to move? No.

Do I get that he might because there are schools, ES and HS, that are way over crowded? Yes.

Do I think that is wonderful? No.

I do I understand the necessity? Yes.

I don’t think other kids should be in over crowded schools so that my kid can stay at his school.

Do I think that they should adjust all the schools? No. But they should relieve the over crowded schools and that means that there are going to be multiple schools moved.

And I don’t think the answer is expanding schools or building a new school. 1) We have schools massivly overcrowded now that have needed relief for years. Expansion and/or building a new school is not going to solve the problem that has existed and continues to exist. Especially when we have schools with space that we can use. Fiscally, the responsible thing to do is shift the boundaries where we can.

And dump IB, it is a financial drain that is massively underutilized. Not that it actually ties into the boundary discussion but it is another cost savings measure that would be useful.