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The Chantilly kids were much closer to Chantilly than Oakton. Any Langley kids moved to Herndon will live much closer to Herndon than Langley.

If you don't want more boundary changes, tell the BOS you'd be fine with a tax hike to service the debt so FCPS can expand more schools and do so more quickly.


We don't need expansion. Which schools are they planning to expand? Is Langley getting an expansion?

If it gets overcrowded, then do a boundary study in the traditional manner. This is not about crowding. I think you know that.


It’s the schools they aren’t expanding that create the enrollment pressure that could result in their moving kids into Langley and Langley kids into Herndon. Do you really not know that?


DP. If you’re going to argue numbers, you should have a good handle on the membership and projection numbers first, rather than pretending you are a know it all🧐

I can tell from your assertion that is not the case.


If Daddy Trump and his minions, SteveBannon and Stephen Miller, get their way, Herndon will have a ton of open seats in the near future.


Herndon has a lot of open seats now and Langley has a lot of students who live closer to Herndon. Hence the daily angst from the Langley poster(s).


Herndon High has some, Herndon Middle, not so much.


Sure, let's talk about middle schools. Kilmer MS was at 121% capacity last year and projected at 123% in 2028, compared to Herndon MS at 89% in 2028. In addition, no pyramid is identified as potentially picking up more kids from future development, much of which isn't reflected in the CIP forecasts, than Marshall, and virtually all of that development would feed into Kilmer.

So they may consider moving part of Kilmer/Marshall to Cooper/Langley and part of Cooper/Langley to Herndon/Herndon.



Anyone on here from Marshall? Seems like gatehouse has your school in the boundary change crosshairs. Have any thoughts on that?


I'm in Marshall's zone and I could see it becoming more compact. Shrevewood, Stenwood, and Freedom Hill are all fully within Marshall's zone, but Lemon Road, Westgate, Westbriar, and Wolf Trap are all split elementaries. That makes no sense, especially the areas way out along 267. If they are really worried about Falls Church's attendance, I could envision a scenario where they take everything south of 66 (most of Shrevewood and Timber Lane) and send it to Falls Church, but that would exaggerate the SES disparities, especially at McLean. I don't think that the committee should be balancing SES as a primary concern, but I do think that they should think carefully about making the differences worse.

In the end, I think they'll tweak it, where Westbriar and Wolftrap split feeders out on 267 are moved to Madison or South Lakes and Lemon Road (north of 66, west of 267) gets fully moved to Marshall. That relieves a little pressure on McLean also.
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Obviously, the level of wealth in the Langley pyramid is off the charts compared to every other pyramid, and some apparently are terrified by the prospect FCPS might reduce the gap even a little (although it's not clear anyone from FCPS has even said that's a goal).


I live in a pyramid that is middle of the road on your list. Please explain what it is going to help by taking kids out of Langley? Who is it going to help?

I can tell you--as from a neighborhood zoned to way down the chart from Langley--that most people want to stay in their current school. I learned this a long time ago at a ms boundary meeting--no matter what school a family is in, they want to stay there--even if the school is not highly rated. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Why is it so hard to understand that if you are being bussed 12 miles to a school when another very viable school is 3 miles away that should be addressed.


“Very viable” is doing some pretty heavy lifting in that statement. 🤣🤣🤣
. Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.


I know a lot of Langley families, and I’ve never ever heard them speak the way that you do about Herndon families. Don’t be racist, ladies.


This. Just because someone does not want to leave a school they like, does not make them racist.

Why are you so anxious to have them move? Are you not happy with your school? Do you think there are problems there that would be solved by adding Langley kids to the mix?


You can oppose or feel sad about a potential boundary change without insulting the viability of another school. Or maybe you can't.


You can argue for boundary changes without calling the Herndon kids racial slurs. Jesus, it’s not that hard. I’ve never seen a Langley poster say that once, but I’ve read dozens of posts where the boundary change advocates call those Herndon kids all sorts of names.


It was a boundary change opponent who just implied earlier tonight Herndon isn’t a viable school. Nice try to flip the script, though.


Is this verbatim quote you or your comrade?

“Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.”


Not my post but that poster is capturing how Langley posters appear to view Herndon kids.


Disagree. I think it is how Herndon posters view Langley parents. They are offended because Langley parents want their kids to stay at Langley. Funny how that works. They like where they are, so they must be racist.


I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.


Quote their exact words - with citations. Otherwise, you're a liar.
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Not my job to find out if either session is archived. Feel free to go check on your own. I stand by my observation.


When you make a claim, the expectation is that you can back it up with evidence. I see that you cannot. The conclusion is that you were lying - as we already knew.
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Obviously, the level of wealth in the Langley pyramid is off the charts compared to every other pyramid, and some apparently are terrified by the prospect FCPS might reduce the gap even a little (although it's not clear anyone from FCPS has even said that's a goal).


I live in a pyramid that is middle of the road on your list. Please explain what it is going to help by taking kids out of Langley? Who is it going to help?

I can tell you--as from a neighborhood zoned to way down the chart from Langley--that most people want to stay in their current school. I learned this a long time ago at a ms boundary meeting--no matter what school a family is in, they want to stay there--even if the school is not highly rated. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Why is it so hard to understand that if you are being bussed 12 miles to a school when another very viable school is 3 miles away that should be addressed.


“Very viable” is doing some pretty heavy lifting in that statement. 🤣🤣🤣
. Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.


I know a lot of Langley families, and I’ve never ever heard them speak the way that you do about Herndon families. Don’t be racist, ladies.


This. Just because someone does not want to leave a school they like, does not make them racist.

Why are you so anxious to have them move? Are you not happy with your school? Do you think there are problems there that would be solved by adding Langley kids to the mix?


You can oppose or feel sad about a potential boundary change without insulting the viability of another school. Or maybe you can't.


You can argue for boundary changes without calling the Herndon kids racial slurs. Jesus, it’s not that hard. I’ve never seen a Langley poster say that once, but I’ve read dozens of posts where the boundary change advocates call those Herndon kids all sorts of names.


It was a boundary change opponent who just implied earlier tonight Herndon isn’t a viable school. Nice try to flip the script, though.


Is this verbatim quote you or your comrade?

“Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.”


Not my post but that poster is capturing how Langley posters appear to view Herndon kids.


DP. Again, sounds like a you problem. The PP is correct. It's only people *other* than Langley posters who speak in such a vile way. It's like the posters who refer to low-income people as "the poors." No one else talks about them like that.


Langley posters were clearly casting aspersions just tonight on the statement that Herndon is a “very viable” school.


And you know they were "Langley posters" how, exactly? Oh, right - you don't.
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Obviously, the level of wealth in the Langley pyramid is off the charts compared to every other pyramid, and some apparently are terrified by the prospect FCPS might reduce the gap even a little (although it's not clear anyone from FCPS has even said that's a goal).


I live in a pyramid that is middle of the road on your list. Please explain what it is going to help by taking kids out of Langley? Who is it going to help?

I can tell you--as from a neighborhood zoned to way down the chart from Langley--that most people want to stay in their current school. I learned this a long time ago at a ms boundary meeting--no matter what school a family is in, they want to stay there--even if the school is not highly rated. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Why is it so hard to understand that if you are being bussed 12 miles to a school when another very viable school is 3 miles away that should be addressed.


“Very viable” is doing some pretty heavy lifting in that statement. 🤣🤣🤣
. Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.


I know a lot of Langley families, and I’ve never ever heard them speak the way that you do about Herndon families. Don’t be racist, ladies.


This. Just because someone does not want to leave a school they like, does not make them racist.

Why are you so anxious to have them move? Are you not happy with your school? Do you think there are problems there that would be solved by adding Langley kids to the mix?


You can oppose or feel sad about a potential boundary change without insulting the viability of another school. Or maybe you can't.


You can argue for boundary changes without calling the Herndon kids racial slurs. Jesus, it’s not that hard. I’ve never seen a Langley poster say that once, but I’ve read dozens of posts where the boundary change advocates call those Herndon kids all sorts of names.


It was a boundary change opponent who just implied earlier tonight Herndon isn’t a viable school. Nice try to flip the script, though.


Is this verbatim quote you or your comrade?

“Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.”


Not my post but that poster is capturing how Langley posters appear to view Herndon kids.


Disagree. I think it is how Herndon posters view Langley parents. They are offended because Langley parents want their kids to stay at Langley. Funny how that works. They like where they are, so they must be racist.


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Obviously, the level of wealth in the Langley pyramid is off the charts compared to every other pyramid, and some apparently are terrified by the prospect FCPS might reduce the gap even a little (although it's not clear anyone from FCPS has even said that's a goal).


I live in a pyramid that is middle of the road on your list. Please explain what it is going to help by taking kids out of Langley? Who is it going to help?

I can tell you--as from a neighborhood zoned to way down the chart from Langley--that most people want to stay in their current school. I learned this a long time ago at a ms boundary meeting--no matter what school a family is in, they want to stay there--even if the school is not highly rated. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Why is it so hard to understand that if you are being bussed 12 miles to a school when another very viable school is 3 miles away that should be addressed.


“Very viable” is doing some pretty heavy lifting in that statement. 🤣🤣🤣
. Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.


I know a lot of Langley families, and I’ve never ever heard them speak the way that you do about Herndon families. Don’t be racist, ladies.


This. Just because someone does not want to leave a school they like, does not make them racist.

Why are you so anxious to have them move? Are you not happy with your school? Do you think there are problems there that would be solved by adding Langley kids to the mix?


You can oppose or feel sad about a potential boundary change without insulting the viability of another school. Or maybe you can't.


You can argue for boundary changes without calling the Herndon kids racial slurs. Jesus, it’s not that hard. I’ve never seen a Langley poster say that once, but I’ve read dozens of posts where the boundary change advocates call those Herndon kids all sorts of names.


It was a boundary change opponent who just implied earlier tonight Herndon isn’t a viable school. Nice try to flip the script, though.


Is this verbatim quote you or your comrade?

“Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.”


Not my post but that poster is capturing how Langley posters appear to view Herndon kids.


DP. Again, sounds like a you problem. The PP is correct. It's only people *other* than Langley posters who speak in such a vile way. It's like the posters who refer to low-income people as "the poors." No one else talks about them like that.


Langley posters were clearly casting aspersions just tonight on the statement that Herndon is a “very viable” school.


Boundary change proponents stated this:

“Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.”

How do I bold the last part of that sentence to emphasize the blatant racism openly stated by the boundary change proponents?


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Bolded it for you.
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Obviously, the level of wealth in the Langley pyramid is off the charts compared to every other pyramid, and some apparently are terrified by the prospect FCPS might reduce the gap even a little (although it's not clear anyone from FCPS has even said that's a goal).


I live in a pyramid that is middle of the road on your list. Please explain what it is going to help by taking kids out of Langley? Who is it going to help?

I can tell you--as from a neighborhood zoned to way down the chart from Langley--that most people want to stay in their current school. I learned this a long time ago at a ms boundary meeting--no matter what school a family is in, they want to stay there--even if the school is not highly rated. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Why is it so hard to understand that if you are being bussed 12 miles to a school when another very viable school is 3 miles away that should be addressed.


“Very viable” is doing some pretty heavy lifting in that statement. 🤣🤣🤣
. Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.


I know a lot of Langley families, and I’ve never ever heard them speak the way that you do about Herndon families. Don’t be racist, ladies.


This. Just because someone does not want to leave a school they like, does not make them racist.

Why are you so anxious to have them move? Are you not happy with your school? Do you think there are problems there that would be solved by adding Langley kids to the mix?


You can oppose or feel sad about a potential boundary change without insulting the viability of another school. Or maybe you can't.


You can argue for boundary changes without calling the Herndon kids racial slurs. Jesus, it’s not that hard. I’ve never seen a Langley poster say that once, but I’ve read dozens of posts where the boundary change advocates call those Herndon kids all sorts of names.


It was a boundary change opponent who just implied earlier tonight Herndon isn’t a viable school. Nice try to flip the script, though.


Is this verbatim quote you or your comrade?

“Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.”


Not my post but that poster is capturing how Langley posters appear to view Herndon kids.


DP. Again, sounds like a you problem. The PP is correct. It's only people *other* than Langley posters who speak in such a vile way. It's like the posters who refer to low-income people as "the poors." No one else talks about them like that.


Langley posters were clearly casting aspersions just tonight on the statement that Herndon is a “very viable” school.


Boundary change proponents stated this:

“Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.”

How do I bold the last part of that sentence to emphasize the blatant racism openly stated by the boundary change proponents?


You need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills.


My sincerest apologies, I thought you or one of your comrades wrote “poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids” I must have read that verbatim, exact quote from an equity pusher incorrectly.

Wait, that’s a verbatim quote. What am I missing?


Let’s just put it this way: you’re the Scarecrow of the thread.


So the boundary advocates weren’t calling Herndon High kids those things? You ladies are racist hypocrites. The evidence is right there.


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Obviously, the level of wealth in the Langley pyramid is off the charts compared to every other pyramid, and some apparently are terrified by the prospect FCPS might reduce the gap even a little (although it's not clear anyone from FCPS has even said that's a goal).


I live in a pyramid that is middle of the road on your list. Please explain what it is going to help by taking kids out of Langley? Who is it going to help?

I can tell you--as from a neighborhood zoned to way down the chart from Langley--that most people want to stay in their current school. I learned this a long time ago at a ms boundary meeting--no matter what school a family is in, they want to stay there--even if the school is not highly rated. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Why is it so hard to understand that if you are being bussed 12 miles to a school when another very viable school is 3 miles away that should be addressed.


“Very viable” is doing some pretty heavy lifting in that statement. 🤣🤣🤣
. Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.


I know a lot of Langley families, and I’ve never ever heard them speak the way that you do about Herndon families. Don’t be racist, ladies.


This. Just because someone does not want to leave a school they like, does not make them racist.

Why are you so anxious to have them move? Are you not happy with your school? Do you think there are problems there that would be solved by adding Langley kids to the mix?


You can oppose or feel sad about a potential boundary change without insulting the viability of another school. Or maybe you can't.


You can argue for boundary changes without calling the Herndon kids racial slurs. Jesus, it’s not that hard. I’ve never seen a Langley poster say that once, but I’ve read dozens of posts where the boundary change advocates call those Herndon kids all sorts of names.


It was a boundary change opponent who just implied earlier tonight Herndon isn’t a viable school. Nice try to flip the script, though.


Is this verbatim quote you or your comrade?

“Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.”


Not my post but that poster is capturing how Langley posters appear to view Herndon kids.


Disagree. I think it is how Herndon posters view Langley parents. They are offended because Langley parents want their kids to stay at Langley. Funny how that works. They like where they are, so they must be racist.


I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.


Quote their exact words - with citations. Otherwise, you're a liar.
DP


Not my job to find out if either session is archived. Feel free to go check on your own. I stand by my observation.


DP. I’ve only heard one set of posters use the terms “brown” “poor” and “unruly” to describe Herndon kids, and it isn’t the Langley posters. The equity movement has jumped the shark.

It fits a pattern. I grew up learning that we shouldn’t discriminate against people based on skin color- and I strongly believe in that principle. Now, we’re accused of being racist for not explicitly focusing on race. It’s the equity-minded posters that ALWAYS bring up race.


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Those of us who want to focus on people and NOT their skin color or ethnicity are somehow the "racists" here. Meanwhile, those who constantly bring those things up are not? Totally upside world.
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Obviously, the level of wealth in the Langley pyramid is off the charts compared to every other pyramid, and some apparently are terrified by the prospect FCPS might reduce the gap even a little (although it's not clear anyone from FCPS has even said that's a goal).


I live in a pyramid that is middle of the road on your list. Please explain what it is going to help by taking kids out of Langley? Who is it going to help?

I can tell you--as from a neighborhood zoned to way down the chart from Langley--that most people want to stay in their current school. I learned this a long time ago at a ms boundary meeting--no matter what school a family is in, they want to stay there--even if the school is not highly rated. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Why is it so hard to understand that if you are being bussed 12 miles to a school when another very viable school is 3 miles away that should be addressed.


“Very viable” is doing some pretty heavy lifting in that statement. 🤣🤣🤣
. Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.


I know a lot of Langley families, and I’ve never ever heard them speak the way that you do about Herndon families. Don’t be racist, ladies.


This. Just because someone does not want to leave a school they like, does not make them racist.

Why are you so anxious to have them move? Are you not happy with your school? Do you think there are problems there that would be solved by adding Langley kids to the mix?


You can oppose or feel sad about a potential boundary change without insulting the viability of another school. Or maybe you can't.


You can argue for boundary changes without calling the Herndon kids racial slurs. Jesus, it’s not that hard. I’ve never seen a Langley poster say that once, but I’ve read dozens of posts where the boundary change advocates call those Herndon kids all sorts of names.


It was a boundary change opponent who just implied earlier tonight Herndon isn’t a viable school. Nice try to flip the script, though.


Is this verbatim quote you or your comrade?

“Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.”


Not my post but that poster is capturing how Langley posters appear to view Herndon kids.


Disagree. I think it is how Herndon posters view Langley parents. They are offended because Langley parents want their kids to stay at Langley. Funny how that works. They like where they are, so they must be racist.


I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.


Quote their exact words - with citations. Otherwise, you're a liar.
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Not my job to find out if either session is archived. Feel free to go check on your own. I stand by my observation.


DP. I’ve only heard one set of posters use the terms “brown” “poor” and “unruly” to describe Herndon kids, and it isn’t the Langley posters. The equity movement has jumped the shark.

It fits a pattern. I grew up learning that we shouldn’t discriminate against people based on skin color- and I strongly believe in that principle. Now, we’re accused of being racist for not explicitly focusing on race. It’s the equity-minded posters that ALWAYS bring up race.

Yet here you are "bringing it up" need a mirror?


It’s just a really bizarre turn that the people trying to break up Langley are the ones uttering racist screeds about the students at the lower SES schools.

Seems like you all are trying to bait us, but it’s not working because Langley families aren’t racist despite your strong desire to have us be so you can use it against us.


This ^^. And you're right, it is a baiting tactic. They can't stand it that it's NOT the Langley families using that kind of racist, divisive rhetoric. Instead, it's the people who want to rezone Langley.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is that some Langley families, in the western fringes of the boundary zone are so against moving to Herndon?

1. Low test scores? Why are the test scores so low at Herndon? Because of the high number of FARMS students. What race are the majority of FARMS students in Fairfax? Brown, Latino. In the minds of many: Brown, non-South Asian = Low test scores. As far as I know, low test scores are not contagious. Plus, your kid can be a stand out on this campus, and won’t have to compete against the uber-score-obsessed students, who can end up having mental health issues.

2. Breaking up of community. This re-zoning would affect a small percentage of families that already live very far away from the majority of Langley homes. Where do these families do their grocery shopping? Probably at Giant in North Reston, or even the one on Dranesville, in Sterling. Who do they run into there? Herndon and South Lakes families, most likely. I bet if these families were granted full scholarships for their kids to a well-regarded private school, they would jump ship in a second, and not give a hoot about community.

3. Home value: Sure, your home value might go down, but don’t we all gamble when we buy a house? Are we always guaranteed the price will go up? A natural disaster could also affect the price, or a discovery of WW1 weapons buried underneath.

Signed, a URM parent of a successful Herndon Hornet


Good grief. Playing to type, I see. Gotta mention the color of students' skin, amirite? And your speculation over where these families do their grocery shopping is utterly bizarre. What on earth does that have to do with anything?
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Then why does this matter to you?


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I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.


Well, this statement intrigued me, so I googled and found the GFCA webinar with Robyn Lady. I heard nothing disparaging. I did hear lots of concerns about the shift, but not like that.

At one point, Robyn Lady brought up the demographics as the reason the school is rated lower. Someone did ask about the safety stats. The moderator mentioned (I am paraphrasing) that they might consider addressing that issue before shifting kids.
I've stated on this thread before that I have never heard anyone address fixing the problem at the struggling schools rather than covering it up with higher SES scoring kids.

Lady also mentioned that the teachers prefer teaching upper level classes. I did not hear anyone ask a question about how the school plans to staff the schools that get more kids as a result of boundary lines. (Teachers generally do not like being reassigned against their will.)
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I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.


Well, this statement intrigued me, so I googled and found the GFCA webinar with Robyn Lady. I heard nothing disparaging. I did hear lots of concerns about the shift, but not like that.

At one point, Robyn Lady brought up the demographics as the reason the school is rated lower. Someone did ask about the safety stats. The moderator mentioned (I am paraphrasing) that they might consider addressing that issue before shifting kids.
I've stated on this thread before that I have never heard anyone address fixing the problem at the struggling schools rather than covering it up with higher SES scoring kids.

Lady also mentioned that the teachers prefer teaching upper level classes. I did not hear anyone ask a question about how the school plans to staff the schools that get more kids as a result of boundary lines. (Teachers generally do not like being reassigned against their will.)


What about the insulting question "Does Herndon even meet the minimal requirements to offer AP courses"? Like really?
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I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.


Well, this statement intrigued me, so I googled and found the GFCA webinar with Robyn Lady. I heard nothing disparaging. I did hear lots of concerns about the shift, but not like that.

At one point, Robyn Lady brought up the demographics as the reason the school is rated lower. Someone did ask about the safety stats. The moderator mentioned (I am paraphrasing) that they might consider addressing that issue before shifting kids.
I've stated on this thread before that I have never heard anyone address fixing the problem at the struggling schools rather than covering it up with higher SES scoring kids.

Lady also mentioned that the teachers prefer teaching upper level classes. I did not hear anyone ask a question about how the school plans to staff the schools that get more kids as a result of boundary lines. (Teachers generally do not like being reassigned against their will.)


What about the insulting question "Does Herndon even meet the minimal requirements to offer AP courses"? Like really?


DP.

Oh my vapors.

You have boundary change proponents on here spewing racial slurs like they’re back in the 50s, but you’re upset at that question? Such transparently faux outrage.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.


Well, this statement intrigued me, so I googled and found the GFCA webinar with Robyn Lady. I heard nothing disparaging. I did hear lots of concerns about the shift, but not like that.

At one point, Robyn Lady brought up the demographics as the reason the school is rated lower. Someone did ask about the safety stats. The moderator mentioned (I am paraphrasing) that they might consider addressing that issue before shifting kids.
I've stated on this thread before that I have never heard anyone address fixing the problem at the struggling schools rather than covering it up with higher SES scoring kids.

Lady also mentioned that the teachers prefer teaching upper level classes. I did not hear anyone ask a question about how the school plans to staff the schools that get more kids as a result of boundary lines. (Teachers generally do not like being reassigned against their will.)


What about the insulting question "Does Herndon even meet the minimal requirements to offer AP courses"? Like really?


DP.

Oh my vapors.

You have boundary change proponents on here spewing racial slurs like they’re back in the 50s, but you’re upset at that question? Such transparently faux outrage.


The “boundary change proponents“ aren’t spewing racial slurs. In some instances they are ascribing views to Langley posters based on their past conduct and statements.

You aren’t fooling anyone, including the School Board, by suggesting otherwise. They know very well by now what you’re all about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.


Well, this statement intrigued me, so I googled and found the GFCA webinar with Robyn Lady. I heard nothing disparaging. I did hear lots of concerns about the shift, but not like that.

At one point, Robyn Lady brought up the demographics as the reason the school is rated lower. Someone did ask about the safety stats. The moderator mentioned (I am paraphrasing) that they might consider addressing that issue before shifting kids.
I've stated on this thread before that I have never heard anyone address fixing the problem at the struggling schools rather than covering it up with higher SES scoring kids.

Lady also mentioned that the teachers prefer teaching upper level classes. I did not hear anyone ask a question about how the school plans to staff the schools that get more kids as a result of boundary lines. (Teachers generally do not like being reassigned against their will.)


What about the insulting question "Does Herndon even meet the minimal requirements to offer AP courses"? Like really?


DP.

Oh my vapors.

You have boundary change proponents on here spewing racial slurs like they’re back in the 50s, but you’re upset at that question? Such transparently faux outrage.


The “boundary change proponents“ aren’t spewing racial slurs. In some instances they are ascribing views to Langley posters based on their past conduct and statements.

You aren’t fooling anyone, including the School Board, by suggesting otherwise. They know very well by now what you’re all about.


You’ve not coughed up one statement from anyone. You’re just making crap up. Have you ever heard of libel laws?
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