FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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And they are building all along 28. Westfield and Chantilly need relief and Centreville can help.


Most of that is Westfield boundary. Some of it is adjacent to Herndon boundary (and closer to Herndon) and could help out there if Herndon really needs numbers.


Have you driven out to Centerville?

That is the next area to boom. It is one of the few areas with space for housing.


I just googled Centreville on realtor.com
Doesn't appear to be much new construction right now. Where are you thinking it is?


Centerville has some of the only land left in fcps with the potential for new housing development. Ffx has basically run out of land everywhere else, except in that part of the county.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
And they are building all along 28. Westfield and Chantilly need relief and Centreville can help.


Most of that is Westfield boundary. Some of it is adjacent to Herndon boundary (and closer to Herndon) and could help out there if Herndon really needs numbers.


Have you driven out to Centerville?

That is the next area to boom. It is one of the few areas with space for housing.


I just googled Centreville on realtor.com
Doesn't appear to be much new construction right now. Where are you thinking it is?


Centerville has some of the only land left in fcps with the potential for new housing development. Ffx has basically run out of land everywhere else, except in that part of the county.


Where are you talking about? It's pretty built up. And, it is Centreville--not Centerville.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
And they are building all along 28. Westfield and Chantilly need relief and Centreville can help.


Most of that is Westfield boundary. Some of it is adjacent to Herndon boundary (and closer to Herndon) and could help out there if Herndon really needs numbers.


Have you driven out to Centerville?

That is the next area to boom. It is one of the few areas with space for housing.


I just googled Centreville on realtor.com
Doesn't appear to be much new construction right now. Where are you thinking it is?


Centerville has some of the only land left in fcps with the potential for new housing development. Ffx has basically run out of land everywhere else, except in that part of the county.


This is so idiotic. Most of the new housing development in Fairfax is multi-family and it’s not in Centreville.
Anonymous
Here is one example of the types of projects in the works in Centreville:

“The design concept’s development program included townhomes (210 Dwelling Units),
apartments (1,000 Dwelling Units), and retail (118,000 gross square feet).”

That is for the Trinity Center project. You can learn more about Centreville planning on the study website:

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/planning-development/plan-amendments/centreville-study
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Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.


DP. Then your first step should be talking them out of expanding Centreville to 3000 seats. That is the final nail in the coffin of a new western HS.


We all know why we don’t have a western high school and who has been pushing against any investment in addressing capacity.

Armstrong ES is projected to have 41% capacity in five years. Will the new Thru threshold be 45%-105% in five years? For no particular reason at all?

And if you get your wish, and the Centreville HS expansion is shut down, kids right next door will be bussed across Fairfax city to attend Fairfax high instead of attending the school right next door.

But your kids will attend Langley high and not Herndon. We see how this works.


I’m not at Langley and would have fully supported a new western HS.

But they’ve already expanded Langley, Madison, Oakton, South Lakes, and Herndon, and have a big expansion of Centreville planned now. All six of those schools serve kids in western Fairfax, even if not in western Fairfax themselves.

These expansions and expansion plans are inconsistent with a new western HS, which is why I suggest you advocate for scaling back (not eliminating) the Centreville expansion if you really think a western HS will ever get built.

If all you want is a huge expansion of Centreville to absorb the western part of the Fairfax HS catchment area, then advocate for that and stop talking about a new western HS. While you’re at it, let us know who is going to attend Fairfax, with its 2400 seats, if all these kids move to Centreville.


Woodson kids.


Not many Woodson kids live closer to Fairfax than Woodson. Nice try, but fail.


All of Fairfax Villa is closer to Fairfax than Woodson, and really should go back there.


This is simply not true. Don’t come on here and lie and expect not to get called out.

DP. First poster shouldn't have used "all", but if you look at the map the vast majority of the housing is concentrated in the northern part of the Fairfax Villa boundary and is closer to Fairfax HS than Woodson. The southern part is almost exclusively trees, churches, and religious schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
And they are building all along 28. Westfield and Chantilly need relief and Centreville can help.


Most of that is Westfield boundary. Some of it is adjacent to Herndon boundary (and closer to Herndon) and could help out there if Herndon really needs numbers.


Have you driven out to Centerville?

That is the next area to boom. It is one of the few areas with space for housing.


I just googled Centreville on realtor.com
Doesn't appear to be much new construction right now. Where are you thinking it is?


It sounds as if
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
And they are building all along 28. Westfield and Chantilly need relief and Centreville can help.


Most of that is Westfield boundary. Some of it is adjacent to Herndon boundary (and closer to Herndon) and could help out there if Herndon really needs numbers.


Have you driven out to Centerville?

That is the next area to boom. It is one of the few areas with space for housing.


I just googled Centreville on realtor.com
Doesn't appear to be much new construction right now. Where are you thinking it is?


From above:

It is one of the few areas with space for housing.

It takes 4 years to renovate a high school.

Expanding Centerville is preparing for the future.
Anonymous
The parts of Centreville where they are building more housing are not close to
centreville hs. Its areas along route 28/the dulles corridor which were not built up
previously due to airport noise.
Anonymous
I know May of this year has been mentioned in the past, but does anybody know when the first official plan might be coming out?
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Happy BRAC day!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Happy BRAC day!


Regardless of your feelings on the boundaries, the fact that you revel in this knowing that tens of thousands of your community will suffer negative impacts, including mental health issues for lots of these kids, makes you a truly repugnant person.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Happy BRAC day!


Regardless of your feelings on the boundaries, the fact that you revel in this knowing that tens of thousands of your community will suffer negative impacts, including mental health issues for lots of these kids, makes you a truly repugnant person.


Or some people might have a different thought on all of this and think that it won’t be nearly as dramatic as you think it is. There are many different opinions.

Kids moving from one school to another will be moving with their classmates from their same ES and will have the support of their family, friends, and the new school they are moving to. More likely then not, there will be other kids moving into that school and others moving out. They are not moving by themselves. I am sure some kids will struggle but I doubt that there will be the massive mental health issues that you seem to think that there will be. The move might even be good for some kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Happy BRAC day!


Regardless of your feelings on the boundaries, the fact that you revel in this knowing that tens of thousands of your community will suffer negative impacts, including mental health issues for lots of these kids, makes you a truly repugnant person.


Or some people might have a different thought on all of this and think that it won’t be nearly as dramatic as you think it is. There are many different opinions.

Kids moving from one school to another will be moving with their classmates from their same ES and will have the support of their family, friends, and the new school they are moving to. More likely then not, there will be other kids moving into that school and others moving out. They are not moving by themselves. I am sure some kids will struggle but I doubt that there will be the massive mental health issues that you seem to think that there will be. The move might even be good for some kids.


The fact that they will be moving with friends from same elementary school is not necessarily true. And, you sound like someone who has not understood how this will affect families that have kids in more than one high school--or elementary school. I guess it is unlikely that you would have kids in two middle schools, but that also might be possible.
Have you considered the support of family in these circumstances? Having to go in two different directions for activities, sports, etc? Think of the single parent. Two PTA dues. Two sets of spirit gear. Etc.
We've talked a lot about this as it applies to high schools, but this could also affect elementary.

And, the issue of IB/AP has not been addressed.

You sound like a parent who wants other kids districted into your school. In this case, you are not going to have the very difficult adjustments.

And, we have yet to discuss staffing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Happy BRAC day!


Regardless of your feelings on the boundaries, the fact that you revel in this knowing that tens of thousands of your community will suffer negative impacts, including mental health issues for lots of these kids, makes you a truly repugnant person.


Or some people might have a different thought on all of this and think that it won’t be nearly as dramatic as you think it is. There are many different opinions.

Kids moving from one school to another will be moving with their classmates from their same ES and will have the support of their family, friends, and the new school they are moving to. More likely then not, there will be other kids moving into that school and others moving out. They are not moving by themselves. I am sure some kids will struggle but I doubt that there will be the massive mental health issues that you seem to think that there will be. The move might even be good for some kids.


That’s a clown take, bro. You don’t even believe what you wrote.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Happy BRAC day!


Regardless of your feelings on the boundaries, the fact that you revel in this knowing that tens of thousands of your community will suffer negative impacts, including mental health issues for lots of these kids, makes you a truly repugnant person.


Or some people might have a different thought on all of this and think that it won’t be nearly as dramatic as you think it is. There are many different opinions.

Kids moving from one school to another will be moving with their classmates from their same ES and will have the support of their family, friends, and the new school they are moving to. More likely then not, there will be other kids moving into that school and others moving out. They are not moving by themselves. I am sure some kids will struggle but I doubt that there will be the massive mental health issues that you seem to think that there will be. The move might even be good for some kids.


The fact that they will be moving with friends from same elementary school is not necessarily true. And, you sound like someone who has not understood how this will affect families that have kids in more than one high school--or elementary school. I guess it is unlikely that you would have kids in two middle schools, but that also might be possible.
Have you considered the support of family in these circumstances? Having to go in two different directions for activities, sports, etc? Think of the single parent. Two PTA dues. Two sets of spirit gear. Etc.
We've talked a lot about this as it applies to high schools, but this could also affect elementary.

And, the issue of IB/AP has not been addressed.

You sound like a parent who wants other kids districted into your school. In this case, you are not going to have the very difficult adjustments.

And, we have yet to discuss staffing.


I see, so your point of view is the only one that matters and that there are other people with different thoughts and considerations is immaterial. Got it. You do your best to try and make anyone who posts a different thought then yours look selfish while you are trying to defend the mental well being of all kids and don’t have any personal bias for wanting to stay where you are.

We get it, you don’t want your child to change schools for a variety or legitimate reasons. The problem is that there are legitimate reasons to adjust boundaries and that boundaries are going to shift. You could careless if kids are moved from a school that isn’t yours because you don’t want to move to Lewis or Herndon or whatever school that is not as good as the school you are currently at.

Guess what? I don’t want my kid to move schools. We are in the middle of the Centerville, Chantilly, Oakton, Westfield, South Lakes, Herndon mess. The number of ways kids have moved my kids cohort is impressive. I fully expect that my kid will move or his friends will move and it will be disruptive. I don’t see how the County maintains its current boundaries with the way some of the schools are overcrowded. And I don’t think that it is a matter of moving on the margins. The moves to fix the overcrowding in this area is likely to have ripple effects. The question is how do we make those moves with as much support as possible while diminishing disruption.
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