Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Protesters Should be Calling For Hamas to Lay Down Its Arms and Return the Hostages.

Do You Think Hamas Would Listen To Protesters?

No need to Mock My Style, please, to make your argument.

Whether Hamas listens or not is not the Full Point. The Full Point is that a call for Hamas to Lay Down Its Arms and Release the Hostages is the Morally Correct Stance to Take. Better, at lease than protesting as what is, in effect, one of Hamas’ Useful Idiots.

Then Go Get A Poster And Start Protesting.

Yes, engaging with Hamas’ Useful Idiots protesting world wide as to why the are not calling on Hamas to Surrender and Release the Hostages sounds like a prudent idea. I have debated Israel haters about this. Hamas’ Surrendering is the most straightforward and expeditious path to End the Conflict. Why Hamas? a Useful Idiot would respond. Because they were the aggressor.

It is a fundamental question that said Useful Idiots can never answer. Why can’t they? Who knows. Maybe because on some level they just want Hamas to win. Not the best side to take and history will judge them poorly.

People protest when they think it will have an impact on behavior.

The families of the hostages in Israel are protesting, not for Hamas to throw down their arms and release the hostages, but for their government to negotiate for the safe release of the hostages. Why do you think they’re not calling on Hamas? Because they’re useful idiots? Or because they’re correctly assessing they will have a greater impact on the behavior of their own government?

In the U.S. the protests have been largely effective in forcing elected leaders to confront Israel about their worst abuses. Why should they pivot to trying to change Hamas’ behavior when it’s hugely unlikely to be effective?

Huh?

Crystal clear post, but this clown responds with “Huh?” to try to derail the discussion because that’s what the hasbara handbook says to do … if the discussion gets away from your talking point BS, attack the other side by claiming that their arguments are incoherent, or “word salad”, etc.

It’s really sinister, but it’s now become an everyday occurrence. Hasbara 101.

Crystal clear? More like deflecting by inserting the hostage families into this. Those are victims of Hamas with particular sensutive interests. The point is that the protesters calling for cease fire and accusing Israel of this or that are effectively Hamas’ useful idiots. These people would be better served by protesting against Hamas’s refusal to surrender—which would end the conflict. A permanent ceasefire is against Israel’s interests and anti-Israel protesters know this. And yeah, sorry, but Israel is the good guy against Hamas. Some might say, well, a call to surrender would be futile. Well, if that’s the case, that is implicitly conceding that Hamas is just a death cult that does not, in fact, have Palestinians’ best interests in mind. That part seems about right.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who argue that Jews do not a historical connection to Israel are wrong. They were there before their opponents.

Genetic testing says, uhhh bullshit.

False. Genetic testing confirms ties as do thousands upon thousands of architectural excavations. To deny Jews’ historical presence there is just wrong. I mean heck, there’s even an ancient Jewish Temple in Gaza, for Christ’s sake. Oh yeah, Christ too! A Jewish man. Er, wait, a Palestinian Jew?

Furthermore the Jews were there long before Christianity or Islam was concocted.

Yeah, all true. The problem is that the people calling themselves Jews in 2024 like Netanyahu and Smotrich have about as much ancient Jewish blood in them as I do, which is a lengthy way to say “none”.

There is no such thing as " Jewish Blood" . You talk like a Zealot.

The vast majority of Arabs in Palestine, Lebanon & Syria are the exact same haplotype as Sephardic Jews: E1b1

They are the same " people "

You can’t have it both ways though, if the Palestinians have more middle eastern blood, they have a right to remain exactly where they are. How can one argue to remove them? Yes, the Sephardic jews have a right to be there fine, but the remaining nonSephardic have zero ties there. It is what it is. These are Europeans.

Deep breaths. I think you mean Mizrahi. Study up.

Ok why do half or more European persons have a right to force indigenous people out? We are still allowing this to happen in 2024?

Jews are indigenous to Israel, Palestine, or whatever one wants to call it.

Not all jews, Europeans practicing Judaism aren’t ‘Jews’ per se.

Wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:The worst impacts of war go beyond the intended result of the warring parties- neither of whom ever gets everything they wanted, btw. The negative impacts lie in the unintended, unanticipated consequences that the zealots who go to war never anticipated- or planned for.

For example, the outcome of the Versailles " peace treaty" was WW II and the outcome of WWII was the nuclear bomb and the real potential for mass extinction of life on Earth.

The outcome of Nixon's " war on Communism in SE Asia" was the rise of Pol Pot and the massacre of 2 million Cambodians and hundreds of thousands of Laos and Vietnamese, and the end of the " war on poverty" in the US

The outcome of arming the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan to fight the Russians was the rise of OBL and Al Qaida as well as the Taliban

The outcome of the US invasion of Iraq was the formation of ISIS.

And what has Israel's war on the Palestinian people, the Lebanese, the Jordanians, the Egyptians and the Iranians...essentially all of their neighbors lead to for the world: well, imagine a world that since 1960's had no plane hijackings, no suicide bombings, imagine no war in Lebanon from 1974-1995, imagine 9/11 never having had happened... imagine that Pegasus technology did not exist and that we all lived in a world where spyware wasn't being used to kill journalists, political leaders, health workers and blackmail politicians.

Imagine instead, a peaceful Middle East with a multi-ethnic state of Palestine in which Druze, Arabs or both Christian and Muslim backgrounds lived together with Jewish people like they had for thousands of years.

Take a deep breath and just think what the world could do with the trillions of dollars of wealth that would not have been wasted on murder, cruelty and exploitation and instead used for science, research, sustainable use and saving the environment.

That is a world without the R wing Likud zealots who have been waging war against the entire Middle East for the past 40 years.

lol get real. Is this a joke?

Druze, Muslims, Christians, and Jews living together in peace?

Yeah right. Islamic states forbid the practice of other religions. Islamicists are commanded by God in the Quran to murder nonbelievers in jihad. Weekly there are terror attacks of non-Muslims by Islamic militant groups.

Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine, Syria, Iraq all have multiple religions/ ethnicities living within them and none of them are " Islamic States" and over centuries they all developed formulas for living in relative peace with each other. Furthermore, a great number of Palestinians are Christian, not Muslim

Israel, on the other hand, from the beginning sought to pit one ethnic group against the other ( Philange + Mosad against Palestinian refugees in Lebanon + Shia in Lebanon )

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Anonymous wrote:Those who argue that Jews do not a historical connection to Israel are wrong. They were there before their opponents.

Genetic testing says, uhhh bullshit.

False. Genetic testing confirms ties as do thousands upon thousands of architectural excavations. To deny Jews’ historical presence there is just wrong. I mean heck, there’s even an ancient Jewish Temple in Gaza, for Christ’s sake. Oh yeah, Christ too! A Jewish man. Er, wait, a Palestinian Jew?

There were ancient Canaanites in the area long, long, long before there were Jews, Christians, or Muslims. The land was inhabited for tens of millennia before Judaism was even invented. Why should just one -- of the many different religious groups that have lived there -- have a special claim to this piece of land?

Last time I checked, two “religious groups” — those who are called Muslims and Jews are making “special” claims to “this piece of land. Not sure where the Canaanites fit in in 2024.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who argue that Jews do not a historical connection to Israel are wrong. They were there before their opponents.

Why are secular jews still referred to as jews? People who have never practiced religion are still referred to as a jew? Why? Even if one is 1/8 jewish are they a jew?

Genetic testing says, uhhh bullshit.

False. Genetic testing confirms ties as do thousands upon thousands of architectural excavations. To deny Jews’ historical presence there is just wrong. I mean heck, there’s even an ancient Jewish Temple in Gaza, for Christ’s sake. Oh yeah, Christ too! A Jewish man. Er, wait, a Palestinian Jew?

Furthermore the Jews were there long before Christianity or Islam was concocted.

Yeah, all true. The problem is that the people calling themselves Jews in 2024 like Netanyahu and Smotrich have about as much ancient Jewish blood in them as I do, which is a lengthy way to say “none”.

There is no such thing as " Jewish Blood" . You talk like a Zealot.

The vast majority of Arabs in Palestine, Lebanon & Syria are the exact same haplotype as Sephardic Jews: E1b1

They are the same " people "

You can’t have it both ways though, if the Palestinians have more middle eastern blood, they have a right to remain exactly where they are. How can one argue to remove them? Yes, the Sephardic jews have a right to be there fine, but the remaining nonSephardic have zero ties there. It is what it is. These are Europeans.

Deep breaths. I think you mean Mizrahi. Study up.

Ok why do half or more European persons have a right to force indigenous people out? We are still allowing this to happen in 2024?

Jews are indigenous to Israel, Palestine, or whatever one wants to call it.

Not all jews, Europeans practicing Judaism aren’t ‘Jews’ per se.

Wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those who argue that Jews do not a historical connection to Israel are wrong. They were there before their opponents.

Genetic testing says, uhhh bullshit.

False. Genetic testing confirms ties as do thousands upon thousands of architectural excavations. To deny Jews’ historical presence there is just wrong. I mean heck, there’s even an ancient Jewish Temple in Gaza, for Christ’s sake. Oh yeah, Christ too! A Jewish man. Er, wait, a Palestinian Jew?

There were ancient Canaanites in the area long, long, long before there were Jews, Christians, or Muslims. The land was inhabited for tens of millennia before Judaism was even invented. Why should just one -- of the many different religious groups that have lived there -- have a special claim to this piece of land?

And before that, there were Neanderthals and before that amoebas. Maybe we should just give our homes back to them…

Well, yes this is the game we are playing. We preach about how the white Europeans ‘stole’ American indigenous land, yet we turn a complete 180 and support and encourage it from another country. European jewish people don’t have direct roots to the middle east.

Oh but those who are genetically Jewish most certainly do.

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Why are secular jews still jews? If they are 1/8% jewish, they’re still a jew? Why is this a thing?

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Anonymous wrote:Protesters Should be Calling For Hamas to Lay Down Its Arms and Return the Hostages.

Do You Think Hamas Would Listen To Protesters?

No need to Mock My Style, please, to make your argument.

Whether Hamas listens or not is not the Full Point. The Full Point is that a call for Hamas to Lay Down Its Arms and Release the Hostages is the Morally Correct Stance to Take. Better, at lease than protesting as what is, in effect, one of Hamas’ Useful Idiots.

Then Go Get A Poster And Start Protesting.

Yes, engaging with Hamas’ Useful Idiots protesting world wide as to why the are not calling on Hamas to Surrender and Release the Hostages sounds like a prudent idea. I have debated Israel haters about this. Hamas’ Surrendering is the most straightforward and expeditious path to End the Conflict. Why Hamas? a Useful Idiot would respond. Because they were the aggressor.

It is a fundamental question that said Useful Idiots can never answer. Why can’t they? Who knows. Maybe because on some level they just want Hamas to win. Not the best side to take and history will judge them poorly.

People protest when they think it will have an impact on behavior.

The families of the hostages in Israel are protesting, not for Hamas to throw down their arms and release the hostages, but for their government to negotiate for the safe release of the hostages. Why do you think they’re not calling on Hamas? Because they’re useful idiots? Or because they’re correctly assessing they will have a greater impact on the behavior of their own government?

In the U.S. the protests have been largely effective in forcing elected leaders to confront Israel about their worst abuses. Why should they pivot to trying to change Hamas’ behavior when it’s hugely unlikely to be effective?

Huh?

Crystal clear post, but this clown responds with “Huh?” to try to derail the discussion because that’s what the hasbara handbook says to do … if the discussion gets away from your talking point BS, attack the other side by claiming that their arguments are incoherent, or “word salad”, etc.

It’s really sinister, but it’s now become an everyday occurrence. Hasbara 101.

And what page would that be in the - what do you call it? - the Hasbata notebook?

Just ant to get the world domination notebooks straight.

It’s like Fight Club for cross-eyed nutters with spittle forming at the corners of their mouths. The first rule is “You don’t talk about Hasbara” and the second rule is “You DO NOT talk about Hasbara”.

But it’s Pages 14 - 53, if you’re still wondering.

However, it’s hardly a “world domination” notebook. These idiots can’t even get off U.S. welfare after 76 years, much less dominate anything other than refugees who are forced to respond to F-16s and Abrams tanks with literal sticks and stones. Not exactly a group known for dominating a fair fight, if you know what I mean.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who argue that Jews do not a historical connection to Israel are wrong. They were there before their opponents.

Genetic testing says, uhhh bullshit.

False. Genetic testing confirms ties as do thousands upon thousands of architectural excavations. To deny Jews’ historical presence there is just wrong. I mean heck, there’s even an ancient Jewish Temple in Gaza, for Christ’s sake. Oh yeah, Christ too! A Jewish man. Er, wait, a Palestinian Jew?

There were ancient Canaanites in the area long, long, long before there were Jews, Christians, or Muslims. The land was inhabited for tens of millennia before Judaism was even invented. Why should just one -- of the many different religious groups that have lived there -- have a special claim to this piece of land?

And before that, there were Neanderthals and before that amoebas. Maybe we should just give our homes back to them…

Well, yes this is the game we are playing. We preach about how the white Europeans ‘stole’ American indigenous land, yet we turn a complete 180 and support and encourage it from another country. European jewish people don’t have direct roots to the middle east.

Oh but those who are genetically Jewish most certainly do.

Not if they left 2,000 years ago. There is no “genetic memory”. What a bunch of mumble jumble BS.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who argue that Jews do not a historical connection to Israel are wrong. They were there before their opponents.

Genetic testing says, uhhh bullshit.

False. Genetic testing confirms ties as do thousands upon thousands of architectural excavations. To deny Jews’ historical presence there is just wrong. I mean heck, there’s even an ancient Jewish Temple in Gaza, for Christ’s sake. Oh yeah, Christ too! A Jewish man. Er, wait, a Palestinian Jew?

There were ancient Canaanites in the area long, long, long before there were Jews, Christians, or Muslims. The land was inhabited for tens of millennia before Judaism was even invented. Why should just one -- of the many different religious groups that have lived there -- have a special claim to this piece of land?

Yes. This. And then Canaanites mixed with other ethnicities who migrated in converted to Judaism. Along came Jesus (Jewish) and some of those same Jews converted to Christianity (some Jews stayed and some Jews left intermarrying Europeans before returning). Mohammed then came along (along with more migrants from Turkey etc) and some that stayed (both the Jews and Christians living in the area) converted. This is what the scientific genetic research shows.

A bunch of pages back someone commented that the Muslims came into the area from Arabia like they were invaders. Some Muslims may have come from Arabia like any of the migrant groups that came into the region, but they converted and intermarried with the people that were already in Palestine.

Genetics clearly show that Jews and Muslim Palestinians were descendants from common ancestors. They are cousins. So when you says Jews have a historical tie to the land, sure. But so do the Palestinians who stayed.

There is a lot of genetic mixing in the Middle East.

So, Islam would have conquered the area between the 9th and 11 Centuries. Would have had the Crusades too. That would have been around the late 1100's

Jews of course were there for several thousand years.

It's no wonder Jerusalem is an issue for Muslims, Christians, and Jews.

Geographically and demographically, it's a messy place.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who argue that Jews do not a historical connection to Israel are wrong. They were there before their opponents.

Genetic testing says, uhhh bullshit.

False. Genetic testing confirms ties as do thousands upon thousands of architectural excavations. To deny Jews’ historical presence there is just wrong. I mean heck, there’s even an ancient Jewish Temple in Gaza, for Christ’s sake. Oh yeah, Christ too! A Jewish man. Er, wait, a Palestinian Jew?

There were ancient Canaanites in the area long, long, long before there were Jews, Christians, or Muslims. The land was inhabited for tens of millennia before Judaism was even invented. Why should just one -- of the many different religious groups that have lived there -- have a special claim to this piece of land?

And before that, there were Neanderthals and before that amoebas. Maybe we should just give our homes back to them…

Well, yes this is the game we are playing. We preach about how the white Europeans ‘stole’ American indigenous land, yet we turn a complete 180 and support and encourage it from another country. European jewish people don’t have direct roots to the middle east.

Oh but those who are genetically Jewish most certainly do.

How Jewish is Jewish enough? What about converts? Ivanka Trump? Does she have a right to live in Israel before a Palestinian? What percentage is jewish enough? Why are we fixated on such things?

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Anonymous wrote:Those who argue that Jews do not a historical connection to Israel are wrong. They were there before their opponents.

Genetic testing says, uhhh bullshit.

False. Genetic testing confirms ties as do thousands upon thousands of architectural excavations. To deny Jews’ historical presence there is just wrong. I mean heck, there’s even an ancient Jewish Temple in Gaza, for Christ’s sake. Oh yeah, Christ too! A Jewish man. Er, wait, a Palestinian Jew?

There were ancient Canaanites in the area long, long, long before there were Jews, Christians, or Muslims. The land was inhabited for tens of millennia before Judaism was even invented. Why should just one -- of the many different religious groups that have lived there -- have a special claim to this piece of land?

And before that, there were Neanderthals and before that amoebas. Maybe we should just give our homes back to them…

Well, yes this is the game we are playing. We preach about how the white Europeans ‘stole’ American indigenous land, yet we turn a complete 180 and support and encourage it from another country. European jewish people don’t have direct roots to the middle east.

Oh but those who are genetically Jewish most certainly do.

How Jewish is Jewish enough? What about converts? Ivanka Trump? Does she have a right to live in Israel before a Palestinian? What percentage is jewish enough? Why are we fixated on such things?

Because far too many people deny Jewish people’s ironclad connection to the Levant.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who argue that Jews do not a historical connection to Israel are wrong. They were there before their opponents.

Genetic testing says, uhhh bullshit.

False. Genetic testing confirms ties as do thousands upon thousands of architectural excavations. To deny Jews’ historical presence there is just wrong. I mean heck, there’s even an ancient Jewish Temple in Gaza, for Christ’s sake. Oh yeah, Christ too! A Jewish man. Er, wait, a Palestinian Jew?

There were ancient Canaanites in the area long, long, long before there were Jews, Christians, or Muslims. The land was inhabited for tens of millennia before Judaism was even invented. Why should just one -- of the many different religious groups that have lived there -- have a special claim to this piece of land?

And before that, there were Neanderthals and before that amoebas. Maybe we should just give our homes back to them…

Well, yes this is the game we are playing. We preach about how the white Europeans ‘stole’ American indigenous land, yet we turn a complete 180 and support and encourage it from another country. European jewish people don’t have direct roots to the middle east.

Oh but those who are genetically Jewish most certainly do.

Not if they left 2,000 years ago. There is no “genetic memory”. What a bunch of mumble jumble BS.

What an odd thing to say. Please just read one nonbiased source on this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Protesters Should be Calling For Hamas to Lay Down Its Arms and Return the Hostages.

Do You Think Hamas Would Listen To Protesters?

No need to Mock My Style, please, to make your argument.

Whether Hamas listens or not is not the Full Point. The Full Point is that a call for Hamas to Lay Down Its Arms and Release the Hostages is the Morally Correct Stance to Take. Better, at lease than protesting as what is, in effect, one of Hamas’ Useful Idiots.

Then Go Get A Poster And Start Protesting.

Yes, engaging with Hamas’ Useful Idiots protesting world wide as to why the are not calling on Hamas to Surrender and Release the Hostages sounds like a prudent idea. I have debated Israel haters about this. Hamas’ Surrendering is the most straightforward and expeditious path to End the Conflict. Why Hamas? a Useful Idiot would respond. Because they were the aggressor.

It is a fundamental question that said Useful Idiots can never answer. Why can’t they? Who knows. Maybe because on some level they just want Hamas to win. Not the best side to take and history will judge them poorly.

People protest when they think it will have an impact on behavior.

The families of the hostages in Israel are protesting, not for Hamas to throw down their arms and release the hostages, but for their government to negotiate for the safe release of the hostages. Why do you think they’re not calling on Hamas? Because they’re useful idiots? Or because they’re correctly assessing they will have a greater impact on the behavior of their own government?

In the U.S. the protests have been largely effective in forcing elected leaders to confront Israel about their worst abuses. Why should they pivot to trying to change Hamas’ behavior when it’s hugely unlikely to be effective?

Huh?

Crystal clear post, but this clown responds with “Huh?” to try to derail the discussion because that’s what the hasbara handbook says to do … if the discussion gets away from your talking point BS, attack the other side by claiming that their arguments are incoherent, or “word salad”, etc.

It’s really sinister, but it’s now become an everyday occurrence. Hasbara 101.

Crystal clear? More like deflecting by inserting the hostage families into this. Those are victims of Hamas with particular sensutive interests. The point is that the protesters calling for cease fire and accusing Israel of this or that are effectively Hamas’ useful idiots. These people would be better served by protesting against Hamas’s refusal to surrender—which would end the conflict. A permanent ceasefire is against Israel’s interests and anti-Israel protesters know this. And yeah, sorry, but Israel is the good guy against Hamas. Some might say, well, a call to surrender would be futile. Well, if that’s the case, that is implicitly conceding that Hamas is just a death cult that does not, in fact, have Palestinians’ best interests in mind. That part seems about right.

It was clear enough that you just created that word salad of detailed (yet incoherent) rambling, but the initial response was … “Huh?”

Again, your intent was not to attack the merits because you arrived empty handed to a fact fight, so you resorted to trying unsuccessfully to distract from the facts by suggesting that the message didn’t even make sense.

Look, whatever … enough people see through this Zionist propaganda campaign now that we also can see clearly how badly you’re struggling to keep up in the deep end of the fact pool. I’m sorry that isn’t fun for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who argue that Jews do not a historical connection to Israel are wrong. They were there before their opponents.

Genetic testing says, uhhh bullshit.

False. Genetic testing confirms ties as do thousands upon thousands of architectural excavations. To deny Jews’ historical presence there is just wrong. I mean heck, there’s even an ancient Jewish Temple in Gaza, for Christ’s sake. Oh yeah, Christ too! A Jewish man. Er, wait, a Palestinian Jew?

There were ancient Canaanites in the area long, long, long before there were Jews, Christians, or Muslims. The land was inhabited for tens of millennia before Judaism was even invented. Why should just one -- of the many different religious groups that have lived there -- have a special claim to this piece of land?

And before that, there were Neanderthals and before that amoebas. Maybe we should just give our homes back to them…

Well, yes this is the game we are playing. We preach about how the white Europeans ‘stole’ American indigenous land, yet we turn a complete 180 and support and encourage it from another country. European jewish people don’t have direct roots to the middle east.

Oh but those who are genetically Jewish most certainly do.

How Jewish is Jewish enough? What about converts? Ivanka Trump? Does she have a right to live in Israel before a Palestinian? What percentage is jewish enough? Why are we fixated on such things?

Because far too many people deny Jewish people’s ironclad connection to the Levant.

Is this sarcasm? Define jewish people.