FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Why is the “office tower high school in Tysons” being proposed on this thread?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm interested about the impact on school enrollment in this situation. I'm just spitballing scenarios based on geographic factors (mainly major highways).

- McLean is condensed, with enrollment restricted to the borders of 267 on the west and 123 on the north (loses the Pimmit/Tysons cut outs and Timber Lane).
- Marshall shifts north and becomes the "Tysons" HS. It is restricted to the current boundary with Madison on the west, 66 on the south, and 267 on the north and east.
- Timber Lane and Shrevewood S of 66 move to Falls Church.
- Falls Church west of Prosperity goes to Oakton.

I'm guessing this would leave McLean under-enrolled and it introduces risk to Marshall if Tyson's grows too quickly, but I'd be curious to see the numbers.

Similarly, I wonder about the scenario where:

- Lewis gains the area north of the Beltway from Edison.
- Edison takes the NE wing of Hayfield.
- South County takes the area of WSHS south of 286.

You cannot have Marshall be the only High School for Tysons. They are planning for a population of 100,000- Unless you are talking about a super mega large high rise sort of high school.

They could repurpose an empty office building in western Tysons and build an urban school similar to Bailey’s upper. Much cheaper than building a new school, can be placed in area of capacity need and makes good use of vacant commercial buildings.

No one wants that jind of high school. It would be disastrous for whoever was forced to attend it.

High schoolers need sports fields, theaters, indoor gyms/basketball courts and parking lot space.

A high rise building in a densely developed area shortchanges those kids and will not give them an equivalent education to every other high school student in FCPS.

The only way a high rise high school would be remotely feasible is if it was a non traditional magnet, such as a trades magnet, an ESL magnet or an alternative school like Bryant. Even kids at anIB magnet or a school like TJ want a real high school experience, not a second rate high rise building.

Traditional high school students in a district as wealthy as FCPS with its 4 billion plus budget deserve a first rate, traditional high school experience.

There is at least one option to create a viable high school for Tyson’s: the 12-acre Northrop Grumman campus in Tysons, which has been on and off the market over the past four years. Located adjacent to the McLean metro station and contiguous with the 12-acre Westgate Park within the Scott’s Run Stream Valley, acquisition and conversion of the 602,000 sq foot Northrop Grumman property into green space and park space would double the county’s 12 acres to 24 acres adjacent to Westgate ES and the McLean metro stop on the Silver line. Demolish the existing massive above-ground parking structure would create space for multiple fields; the adjacent Mitre parking lot to would potentially be available for parking.

I dont think a HS adjacent to a metro is smart public planning. Regardless 24 acres is way too small.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is the “office tower high school in Tysons” being proposed on this thread?

Is someone that concerned about capacity from the Tysons area going to Langley (and the potential domino effect that would have on the northern portion of the current Langley attendance zone) that they would rather cram other people’s kids into an office building than send their own kids to a high school that is geographically closer to where they bought a house?

A bit hypocritical from the “don’t tell other people what to do with their kids” crowd.

DP. I know that you’re a parrot with your MO of moving Langley kids to Herndon, but sometimes it isn’t about you and your extreme agenda.

Touch grass.

Bless your heart.

What is it about?

+1. Waiting for an answer as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is the “office tower high school in Tysons” being proposed on this thread?

It’s not serious, it was a reaction to a post about making Marshall “the high school” for Tyson’s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is the “office tower high school in Tysons” being proposed on this thread?

Is someone that concerned about capacity from the Tysons area going to Langley (and the potential domino effect that would have on the northern portion of the current Langley attendance zone) that they would rather cram other people’s kids into an office building than send their own kids to a high school that is geographically closer to where they bought a house?

A bit hypocritical from the “don’t tell other people what to do with their kids” crowd.

DP. I know that you’re a parrot with your MO of moving Langley kids to Herndon, but sometimes it isn’t about you and your extreme agenda.

Touch grass.

I'm starting to think that you don't know what "touch grass" means, you just use it every time you want to mildly insult someone.

[Anonymous]

We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is the “office tower high school in Tysons” being proposed on this thread?

Is someone that concerned about capacity from the Tysons area going to Langley (and the potential domino effect that would have on the northern portion of the current Langley attendance zone) that they would rather cram other people’s kids into an office building than send their own kids to a high school that is geographically closer to where they bought a house?

A bit hypocritical from the “don’t tell other people what to do with their kids” crowd.

DP. I know that you’re a parrot with your MO of moving Langley kids to Herndon, but sometimes it isn’t about you and your extreme agenda.

Touch grass.

I'm starting to think that you don't know what "touch grass" means, you just use it every time you want to mildly insult someone.

+1. That’s why I responded to that poster with “Bless your heart.” This Virginia, after all. If you’re are going to play that game, do it right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.

DP. Then your first step should be talking them out of expanding Centreville to 3000 seats. That is the final nail in the coffin of a new western HS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People need to stop obsessing about Langley.

The likely reassignment of the Spring Hill island from McLean to Langley and the Spring Gate Apartments from Marshall to McLean means that Tysons will in the future be about 50% Marshall, 30% Langley, and 20% McLean (which will still have to accommodate more growth near the West Falls Church Metro).

That means Langley won't be just single-family homes in the future, and further growth in Tysons, if/when it materializes, will push kids into other schools at some point.

FCPS is playing long ball here.

I think this is smart. Tysons needs to b3 absorbed by several high schools. The planned population of Tysons is 100k, up from 10k a few years ago. Now, most of the apartments are better for singles and dinks of every age, but there will still be school aged children. This suggested set up would be a good start in anticipating whatever happens.

Are you sure the “high rise high school in Tysons” is not a response to this prior post?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is the “office tower high school in Tysons” being proposed on this thread?

Is someone that concerned about capacity from the Tysons area going to Langley (and the potential domino effect that would have on the northern portion of the current Langley attendance zone) that they would rather cram other people’s kids into an office building than send their own kids to a high school that is geographically closer to where they bought a house?

A bit hypocritical from the “don’t tell other people what to do with their kids” crowd.

DP. I know that you’re a parrot with your MO of moving Langley kids to Herndon, but sometimes it isn’t about you and your extreme agenda.

Touch grass.

I'm starting to think that you don't know what "touch grass" means, you just use it every time you want to mildly insult someone.

He uses it as if it means “pound sand.” Perhaps not a native English speaker and mixing up idioms.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.

DP. Then your first step should be talking them out of expanding Centreville to 3000 seats. That is the final nail in the coffin of a new western HS.

We all know why we don’t have a western high school and who has been pushing against any investment in addressing capacity.

Armstrong ES is projected to have 41% capacity in five years. Will the new Thru threshold be 45%-105% in five years? For no particular reason at all?

And if you get your wish, and the Centreville HS expansion is shut down, kids right next door will be bussed across Fairfax city to attend Fairfax high instead of attending the school right next door.

But your kids will attend Langley high and not Herndon. We see how this works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People need to stop obsessing about Langley.

The likely reassignment of the Spring Hill island from McLean to Langley and the Spring Gate Apartments from Marshall to McLean means that Tysons will in the future be about 50% Marshall, 30% Langley, and 20% McLean (which will still have to accommodate more growth near the West Falls Church Metro).

That means Langley won't be just single-family homes in the future, and further growth in Tysons, if/when it materializes, will push kids into other schools at some point.

FCPS is playing long ball here.

I think this is smart. Tysons needs to b3 absorbed by several high schools. The planned population of Tysons is 100k, up from 10k a few years ago. Now, most of the apartments are better for singles and dinks of every age, but there will still be school aged children. This suggested set up would be a good start in anticipating whatever happens.

Are you sure the “high rise high school in Tysons” is not a response to this prior post?

yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.

DP. Then your first step should be talking them out of expanding Centreville to 3000 seats. That is the final nail in the coffin of a new western HS.

We all know why we don’t have a western high school and who has been pushing against any investment in addressing capacity.

Armstrong ES is projected to have 41% capacity in five years. Will the new Thru threshold be 45%-105% in five years? For no particular reason at all?

And if you get your wish, and the Centreville HS expansion is shut down, kids right next door will be bussed across Fairfax city to attend Fairfax high instead of attending the school right next door.

But your kids will attend Langley high and not Herndon. We see how this works.

I’m not at Langley and would have fully supported a new western HS.

But they’ve already expanded Langley, Madison, Oakton, South Lakes, and Herndon, and have a big expansion of Centreville planned now. All six of those schools serve kids in western Fairfax, even if not in western Fairfax themselves.

These expansions and expansion plans are inconsistent with a new western HS, which is why I suggest you advocate for scaling back (not eliminating) the Centreville expansion if you really think a western HS will ever get built.

If all you want is a huge expansion of Centreville to absorb the western part of the Fairfax HS catchment area, then advocate for that and stop talking about a new western HS. While you’re at it, let us know who is going to attend Fairfax, with its 2400 seats, if all these kids move to Centreville.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.

DP. Then your first step should be talking them out of expanding Centreville to 3000 seats. That is the final nail in the coffin of a new western HS.

We all know why we don’t have a western high school and who has been pushing against any investment in addressing capacity.

Armstrong ES is projected to have 41% capacity in five years. Will the new Thru threshold be 45%-105% in five years? For no particular reason at all?

And if you get your wish, and the Centreville HS expansion is shut down, kids right next door will be bussed across Fairfax city to attend Fairfax high instead of attending the school right next door.

But your kids will attend Langley high and not Herndon. We see how this works.

I’m not at Langley and would have fully supported a new western HS.

But they’ve already expanded Langley, Madison, Oakton, South Lakes, and Herndon, and have a big expansion of Centreville planned now. All six of those schools serve kids in western Fairfax, even if not in western Fairfax themselves.

These expansions and expansion plans are inconsistent with a new western HS, which is why I suggest you advocate for scaling back (not eliminating) the Centreville expansion if you really think a western HS will ever get built.

If all you want is a huge expansion of Centreville to absorb the western part of the Fairfax HS catchment area, then advocate for that and stop talking about a new western HS. While you’re at it, let us know who is going to attend Fairfax, with its 2400 seats, if all these kids move to Centreville.

Woodson kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is the “office tower high school in Tysons” being proposed on this thread?

Is someone that concerned about capacity from the Tysons area going to Langley (and the potential domino effect that would have on the northern portion of the current Langley attendance zone) that they would rather cram other people’s kids into an office building than send their own kids to a high school that is geographically closer to where they bought a house?

A bit hypocritical from the “don’t tell other people what to do with their kids” crowd.

DP. I know that you’re a parrot with your MO of moving Langley kids to Herndon, but sometimes it isn’t about you and your extreme agenda.

Touch grass.

I'm starting to think that you don't know what "touch grass" means, you just use it every time you want to mildly insult someone.

He uses it as if it means “pound sand.” Perhaps not a native English speaker and mixing up idioms.

I’m original user of touch grass. I understand it to mean get outside, as in get outside because your spiraling online. That’s how I intend it responding to the user who sits online all day seething at Langley families.