FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just looked at the membership lists for the three schools (Langley, Marshall, and McLean). For all of this talk about a big increase at Tyson's, I'm not seeing any shift yet.
I am not familiar with the area and do not know the elementary schools. Has there been a big increase there yet?

I don't doubt there may be an increase coming, but shouldn't there be some indication by now?

Judging from the new neighborhoods around me, it take 5-10 years to see more than a slight trickle. People tend to move in with very young children or none now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just looked at the membership lists for the three schools (Langley, Marshall, and McLean). For all of this talk about a big increase at Tyson's, I'm not seeing any shift yet.
I am not familiar with the area and do not know the elementary schools. Has there been a big increase there yet?

I don't doubt there may be an increase coming, but shouldn't there be some indication by now?

Judging from the new neighborhoods around me, it take 5-10 years to see more than a slight trickle. People tend to move in with very young children or none now.

Per the Tysons Tracker the number of FCPS kids in Tysons in 2023-24 was 2206, 652 in high school. Approximately 200 are now proposed by Thru to move from McLean to Langley.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just looked at the membership lists for the three schools (Langley, Marshall, and McLean). For all of this talk about a big increase at Tyson's, I'm not seeing any shift yet.
I am not familiar with the area and do not know the elementary schools. Has there been a big increase there yet?

I don't doubt there may be an increase coming, but shouldn't there be some indication by now?

Judging from the new neighborhoods around me, it take 5-10 years to see more than a slight trickle. People tend to move in with very young children or none now.

Per the Tysons Tracker the number of FCPS kids in Tysons in 2023-24 was 2206, 652 in high school. Approximately 200 are now proposed by Thru to move from McLean to Langley.

- except: NONE of them will still live in FFX county next year.

They are all gone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just looked at the membership lists for the three schools (Langley, Marshall, and McLean). For all of this talk about a big increase at Tyson's, I'm not seeing any shift yet.
I am not familiar with the area and do not know the elementary schools. Has there been a big increase there yet?

I don't doubt there may be an increase coming, but shouldn't there be some indication by now?

Judging from the new neighborhoods around me, it take 5-10 years to see more than a slight trickle. People tend to move in with very young children or none now.

Per the Tysons Tracker the number of FCPS kids in Tysons in 2023-24 was 2206, 652 in high school. Approximately 200 are now proposed by Thru to move from McLean to Langley.

- except: NONE of them will still live in FFX county next year.

They are all gone.

Ah the lady who thinks everyone is moving out of Fairfax County because the schools are terrible is back.

Nope. Especially not nowadays with the Feds who still have their jobs in the office 5 days a week. People are moving closer in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm interested about the impact on school enrollment in this situation. I'm just spitballing scenarios based on geographic factors (mainly major highways).

- McLean is condensed, with enrollment restricted to the borders of 267 on the west and 123 on the north (loses the Pimmit/Tysons cut outs and Timber Lane).
- Marshall shifts north and becomes the "Tysons" HS. It is restricted to the current boundary with Madison on the west, 66 on the south, and 267 on the north and east.
- Timber Lane and Shrevewood S of 66 move to Falls Church.
- Falls Church west of Prosperity goes to Oakton.

I'm guessing this would leave McLean under-enrolled and it introduces risk to Marshall if Tyson's grows too quickly, but I'd be curious to see the numbers.

Similarly, I wonder about the scenario where:

- Lewis gains the area north of the Beltway from Edison.
- Edison takes the NE wing of Hayfield.
- South County takes the area of WSHS south of 286.

Your scenarios prove that you live nowhere near Marshall or McLean and know nothing about the neighborhoods zoned to the schools you're talking about. The "Tysons HS"?? What a joke. You're an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm interested about the impact on school enrollment in this situation. I'm just spitballing scenarios based on geographic factors (mainly major highways).

- McLean is condensed, with enrollment restricted to the borders of 267 on the west and 123 on the north (loses the Pimmit/Tysons cut outs and Timber Lane).
- Marshall shifts north and becomes the "Tysons" HS. It is restricted to the current boundary with Madison on the west, 66 on the south, and 267 on the north and east.
- Timber Lane and Shrevewood S of 66 move to Falls Church.
- Falls Church west of Prosperity goes to Oakton.

I'm guessing this would leave McLean under-enrolled and it introduces risk to Marshall if Tyson's grows too quickly, but I'd be curious to see the numbers.

Similarly, I wonder about the scenario where:

- Lewis gains the area north of the Beltway from Edison.
- Edison takes the NE wing of Hayfield.
- South County takes the area of WSHS south of 286.

You cannot have Marshall be the only High School for Tysons. They are planning for a population of 100,000- Unless you are talking about a super mega large high rise sort of high school.

They could repurpose an empty office building in western Tysons and build an urban school similar to Bailey’s upper. Much cheaper than building a new school, can be placed in area of capacity need and makes good use of vacant commercial buildings.

No one wants that jind of high school. It would be disastrous for whoever was forced to attend it.

High schoolers need sports fields, theaters, indoor gyms/basketball courts and parking lot space.

A high rise building in a densely developed area shortchanges those kids and will not give them an equivalent education to every other high school student in FCPS.

The only way a high rise high school would be remotely feasible is if it was a non traditional magnet, such as a trades magnet, an ESL magnet or an alternative school like Bryant. Even kids at anIB magnet or a school like TJ want a real high school experience, not a second rate high rise building.

Traditional high school students in a district as wealthy as FCPS with its 4 billion plus budget deserve a first rate, traditional high school experience.

There is at least one option to create a viable high school for Tyson’s: the 12-acre Northrop Grumman campus in Tysons, which has been on and off the market over the past four years. Located adjacent to the McLean metro station and contiguous with the 12-acre Westgate Park within the Scott’s Run Stream Valley, acquisition and conversion of the 602,000 sq foot Northrop Grumman property into green space and park space would double the county’s 12 acres to 24 acres adjacent to Westgate ES and the McLean metro stop on the Silver line. Demolish the existing massive above-ground parking structure would create space for multiple fields; the adjacent Mitre parking lot to would potentially be available for parking.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

There isn’t a need for another high school there, and even if there were that plot is way too small. Langley has one of the smallest footprints and it is 42 acres. This is half that size.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a need for another high school there, and even if there were that plot is way too small. Langley has one of the smallest footprints and it is 42 acres. This is half that size.

Not to burst your bubble, but McLean’s acreage is 22 acres. Langley’s is rather large in comparison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a need for another high school there, and even if there were that plot is way too small. Langley has one of the smallest footprints and it is 42 acres. This is half that size.

Not to burst your bubble, but McLean’s acreage is 22 acres. Langley’s is rather large in comparison.

and Marshall’s is just shy of 25.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a need for another high school there, and even if there were that plot is way too small. Langley has one of the smallest footprints and it is 42 acres. This is half that size.

Not to burst your bubble, but McLean’s acreage is 22 acres. Langley’s is rather large in comparison.

and Marshall’s is just shy of 25.

Not sure where you are getting your data. Marshall is 45.6 acres.

https://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/maps/map.aspx?sIndex=4&idx=6&LMparent=138

[Anonymous]

Why is the “office tower high school in Tysons” being proposed on this thread?

Is someone that concerned about capacity from the Tysons area going to Langley (and the potential domino effect that would have on the northern portion of the current Langley attendance zone) that they would rather cram other people’s kids into an office building than send their own kids to a high school that is geographically closer to where they bought a house?

A bit hypocritical from the “don’t tell other people what to do with their kids” crowd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is the “office tower high school in Tysons” being proposed on this thread?

Is someone that concerned about capacity from the Tysons area going to Langley (and the potential domino effect that would have on the northern portion of the current Langley attendance zone) that they would rather cram other people’s kids into an office building than send their own kids to a high school that is geographically closer to where they bought a house?

A bit hypocritical from the “don’t tell other people what to do with their kids” crowd.

DP. I know that you’re a parrot with your MO of moving Langley kids to Herndon, but sometimes it isn’t about you and your extreme agenda.

Touch grass.

[Anonymous]

Everyone is ignoring the elephant in the room, which is that between the immigration crackdown, lower birth rates, and the reduction in federal government spending, there is no reason to think that school enrollment is going anywhere other than down. The Tyson's populations numbers are never going to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is the “office tower high school in Tysons” being proposed on this thread?

Is someone that concerned about capacity from the Tysons area going to Langley (and the potential domino effect that would have on the northern portion of the current Langley attendance zone) that they would rather cram other people’s kids into an office building than send their own kids to a high school that is geographically closer to where they bought a house?

A bit hypocritical from the “don’t tell other people what to do with their kids” crowd.

DP. I know that you’re a parrot with your MO of moving Langley kids to Herndon, but sometimes it isn’t about you and your extreme agenda.

Touch grass.

Bless your heart.

What is it about?