FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.


DP. Then your first step should be talking them out of expanding Centreville to 3000 seats. That is the final nail in the coffin of a new western HS.


We all know why we don’t have a western high school and who has been pushing against any investment in addressing capacity.

Armstrong ES is projected to have 41% capacity in five years. Will the new Thru threshold be 45%-105% in five years? For no particular reason at all?

And if you get your wish, and the Centreville HS expansion is shut down, kids right next door will be bussed across Fairfax city to attend Fairfax high instead of attending the school right next door.

But your kids will attend Langley high and not Herndon. We see how this works.


I’m not at Langley and would have fully supported a new western HS.

But they’ve already expanded Langley, Madison, Oakton, South Lakes, and Herndon, and have a big expansion of Centreville planned now. All six of those schools serve kids in western Fairfax, even if not in western Fairfax themselves.

These expansions and expansion plans are inconsistent with a new western HS, which is why I suggest you advocate for scaling back (not eliminating) the Centreville expansion if you really think a western HS will ever get built.

If all you want is a huge expansion of Centreville to absorb the western part of the Fairfax HS catchment area, then advocate for that and stop talking about a new western HS. While you’re at it, let us know who is going to attend Fairfax, with its 2400 seats, if all these kids move to Centreville.


Woodson kids.


Not many Woodson kids live closer to Fairfax than Woodson. Nice try, but fail.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.


DP. Then your first step should be talking them out of expanding Centreville to 3000 seats. That is the final nail in the coffin of a new western HS.


We all know why we don’t have a western high school and who has been pushing against any investment in addressing capacity.

Armstrong ES is projected to have 41% capacity in five years. Will the new Thru threshold be 45%-105% in five years? For no particular reason at all?

And if you get your wish, and the Centreville HS expansion is shut down, kids right next door will be bussed across Fairfax city to attend Fairfax high instead of attending the school right next door.

But your kids will attend Langley high and not Herndon. We see how this works.


I’m not at Langley and would have fully supported a new western HS.

But they’ve already expanded Langley, Madison, Oakton, South Lakes, and Herndon, and have a big expansion of Centreville planned now. All six of those schools serve kids in western Fairfax, even if not in western Fairfax themselves.

These expansions and expansion plans are inconsistent with a new western HS, which is why I suggest you advocate for scaling back (not eliminating) the Centreville expansion if you really think a western HS will ever get built.

If all you want is a huge expansion of Centreville to absorb the western part of the Fairfax HS catchment area, then advocate for that and stop talking about a new western HS. While you’re at it, let us know who is going to attend Fairfax, with its 2400 seats, if all these kids move to Centreville.


The expansion should absolutely proceed at Centrevillle HS to allow neighborhoods in western Fairfax that are right next to Centreville HS attend the newly renovated high school next door instead of being bussed across Fairfax city.

As for the bold, there are multiple new developments just down Jermantown road from Providence ES and KJ that are converting commercial sites to residential sites:

The Flint Hill one is currently zoned for Fairfax Providence/KJ/Fairfafx:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/02/21/proposed-redevelopments-on-jermantown-road-in-oakton-receive-final-approval/

The AT&T site is commercial land that is currently in the Oakton ES boundary, but is also on Jermantown road (literally across the street from the Flint Hill development) and can be rezoned to Providence/KJ/Fairfax:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/02/21/proposed-redevelopments-on-jermantown-road-in-oakton-receive-final-approval/

So, expand Centreville so that in five years, you have capacity to shift adjacent neighborhoods to attend, and Fairfax HS has capacity to meet the conversion of commercial sites to residential sites.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.


DP. Then your first step should be talking them out of expanding Centreville to 3000 seats. That is the final nail in the coffin of a new western HS.


We all know why we don’t have a western high school and who has been pushing against any investment in addressing capacity.

Armstrong ES is projected to have 41% capacity in five years. Will the new Thru threshold be 45%-105% in five years? For no particular reason at all?

And if you get your wish, and the Centreville HS expansion is shut down, kids right next door will be bussed across Fairfax city to attend Fairfax high instead of attending the school right next door.

But your kids will attend Langley high and not Herndon. We see how this works.


I’m not at Langley and would have fully supported a new western HS.

But they’ve already expanded Langley, Madison, Oakton, South Lakes, and Herndon, and have a big expansion of Centreville planned now. All six of those schools serve kids in western Fairfax, even if not in western Fairfax themselves.

These expansions and expansion plans are inconsistent with a new western HS, which is why I suggest you advocate for scaling back (not eliminating) the Centreville expansion if you really think a western HS will ever get built.

If all you want is a huge expansion of Centreville to absorb the western part of the Fairfax HS catchment area, then advocate for that and stop talking about a new western HS. While you’re at it, let us know who is going to attend Fairfax, with its 2400 seats, if all these kids move to Centreville.


Woodson kids.


Not many Woodson kids live closer to Fairfax than Woodson. Nice try, but fail.


+1. The expansion of Centreville would free up capacity at Fairfax HS for planned/approved/in-progress developments that shift commercial sites to residential sites. Woodson should not be affected by giving Fairfax Hs capacity the new developments on Jermantown road currently necessitate.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.


DP. Then your first step should be talking them out of expanding Centreville to 3000 seats. That is the final nail in the coffin of a new western HS.


We all know why we don’t have a western high school and who has been pushing against any investment in addressing capacity.

Armstrong ES is projected to have 41% capacity in five years. Will the new Thru threshold be 45%-105% in five years? For no particular reason at all?

And if you get your wish, and the Centreville HS expansion is shut down, kids right next door will be bussed across Fairfax city to attend Fairfax high instead of attending the school right next door.

But your kids will attend Langley high and not Herndon. We see how this works.


I’m not at Langley and would have fully supported a new western HS.

But they’ve already expanded Langley, Madison, Oakton, South Lakes, and Herndon, and have a big expansion of Centreville planned now. All six of those schools serve kids in western Fairfax, even if not in western Fairfax themselves.

These expansions and expansion plans are inconsistent with a new western HS, which is why I suggest you advocate for scaling back (not eliminating) the Centreville expansion if you really think a western HS will ever get built.

If all you want is a huge expansion of Centreville to absorb the western part of the Fairfax HS catchment area, then advocate for that and stop talking about a new western HS. While you’re at it, let us know who is going to attend Fairfax, with its 2400 seats, if all these kids move to Centreville.


The expansion should absolutely proceed at Centrevillle HS to allow neighborhoods in western Fairfax that are right next to Centreville HS attend the newly renovated high school next door instead of being bussed across Fairfax city.

As for the bold, there are multiple new developments just down Jermantown road from Providence ES and KJ that are converting commercial sites to residential sites:

The Flint Hill one is currently zoned for Fairfax Providence/KJ/Fairfafx:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/02/21/proposed-redevelopments-on-jermantown-road-in-oakton-receive-final-approval/

The AT&T site is commercial land that is currently in the Oakton ES boundary, but is also on Jermantown road (literally across the street from the Flint Hill development) and can be rezoned to Providence/KJ/Fairfax:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/02/21/proposed-redevelopments-on-jermantown-road-in-oakton-receive-final-approval/

So, expand Centreville so that in five years, you have capacity to shift adjacent neighborhoods to attend, and Fairfax HS has capacity to meet the conversion of commercial sites to residential sites.


Here is the link for the AT&T site:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2023/03/29/proposed-redevelopment-of-oaktons-att-campus-set-to-advance-despite-resident-concerns/

Look at the map. It, like the other site on Jermsntown road, is a direct shot to providence/KJ. It should be zoned for that pyramid.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.


DP. Then your first step should be talking them out of expanding Centreville to 3000 seats. That is the final nail in the coffin of a new western HS.


We all know why we don’t have a western high school and who has been pushing against any investment in addressing capacity.

Armstrong ES is projected to have 41% capacity in five years. Will the new Thru threshold be 45%-105% in five years? For no particular reason at all?

And if you get your wish, and the Centreville HS expansion is shut down, kids right next door will be bussed across Fairfax city to attend Fairfax high instead of attending the school right next door.

But your kids will attend Langley high and not Herndon. We see how this works.


I’m not at Langley and would have fully supported a new western HS.

But they’ve already expanded Langley, Madison, Oakton, South Lakes, and Herndon, and have a big expansion of Centreville planned now. All six of those schools serve kids in western Fairfax, even if not in western Fairfax themselves.

These expansions and expansion plans are inconsistent with a new western HS, which is why I suggest you advocate for scaling back (not eliminating) the Centreville expansion if you really think a western HS will ever get built.

If all you want is a huge expansion of Centreville to absorb the western part of the Fairfax HS catchment area, then advocate for that and stop talking about a new western HS. While you’re at it, let us know who is going to attend Fairfax, with its 2400 seats, if all these kids move to Centreville.


The expansion should absolutely proceed at Centrevillle HS to allow neighborhoods in western Fairfax that are right next to Centreville HS attend the newly renovated high school next door instead of being bussed across Fairfax city.

As for the bold, there are multiple new developments just down Jermantown road from Providence ES and KJ that are converting commercial sites to residential sites:

The Flint Hill one is currently zoned for Fairfax Providence/KJ/Fairfafx:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/02/21/proposed-redevelopments-on-jermantown-road-in-oakton-receive-final-approval/

The AT&T site is commercial land that is currently in the Oakton ES boundary, but is also on Jermantown road (literally across the street from the Flint Hill development) and can be rezoned to Providence/KJ/Fairfax:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/02/21/proposed-redevelopments-on-jermantown-road-in-oakton-receive-final-approval/

So, expand Centreville so that in five years, you have capacity to shift adjacent neighborhoods to attend, and Fairfax HS has capacity to meet the conversion of commercial sites to residential sites.


Providence is already almost at full capacity, so no.

In any event you’re just proving that if Centreville gets turned into this 3000-student factory so people who want slots at Oakton to open up see an opportunity, the idea of a new HS in western Fairfax is completely dead (as opposed to the life support it’s been on for many years).
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.


DP. Then your first step should be talking them out of expanding Centreville to 3000 seats. That is the final nail in the coffin of a new western HS.


We all know why we don’t have a western high school and who has been pushing against any investment in addressing capacity.

Armstrong ES is projected to have 41% capacity in five years. Will the new Thru threshold be 45%-105% in five years? For no particular reason at all?

And if you get your wish, and the Centreville HS expansion is shut down, kids right next door will be bussed across Fairfax city to attend Fairfax high instead of attending the school right next door.

But your kids will attend Langley high and not Herndon. We see how this works.


I’m not at Langley and would have fully supported a new western HS.

But they’ve already expanded Langley, Madison, Oakton, South Lakes, and Herndon, and have a big expansion of Centreville planned now. All six of those schools serve kids in western Fairfax, even if not in western Fairfax themselves.

These expansions and expansion plans are inconsistent with a new western HS, which is why I suggest you advocate for scaling back (not eliminating) the Centreville expansion if you really think a western HS will ever get built.

If all you want is a huge expansion of Centreville to absorb the western part of the Fairfax HS catchment area, then advocate for that and stop talking about a new western HS. While you’re at it, let us know who is going to attend Fairfax, with its 2400 seats, if all these kids move to Centreville.


The expansion should absolutely proceed at Centrevillle HS to allow neighborhoods in western Fairfax that are right next to Centreville HS attend the newly renovated high school next door instead of being bussed across Fairfax city.

As for the bold, there are multiple new developments just down Jermantown road from Providence ES and KJ that are converting commercial sites to residential sites:

The Flint Hill one is currently zoned for Fairfax Providence/KJ/Fairfafx:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/02/21/proposed-redevelopments-on-jermantown-road-in-oakton-receive-final-approval/

The AT&T site is commercial land that is currently in the Oakton ES boundary, but is also on Jermantown road (literally across the street from the Flint Hill development) and can be rezoned to Providence/KJ/Fairfax:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/02/21/proposed-redevelopments-on-jermantown-road-in-oakton-receive-final-approval/

So, expand Centreville so that in five years, you have capacity to shift adjacent neighborhoods to attend, and Fairfax HS has capacity to meet the conversion of commercial sites to residential sites.


Providence is already almost at full capacity, so no.

In any event you’re just proving that if Centreville gets turned into this 3000-student factory so people who want slots at Oakton to open up see an opportunity, the idea of a new HS in western Fairfax is completely dead (as opposed to the life support it’s been on for many years).


There is a bit of a logical disconnect in your chain of reasoning here. You to realize that you can’t just throw a bunch of provocative ideas in a row and make them link up. There has to be a logical connection.

Nobody is trying to “make room” at Oakton by pointing out that developments that are in progress/planned would fill any capacity loss that Fairfax High experiences if Willow Springs shifts to a renovated Centreville.

And how does that signal the death of the western high school?

Your 2+2 does not equal 4.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.


DP. Then your first step should be talking them out of expanding Centreville to 3000 seats. That is the final nail in the coffin of a new western HS.


We all know why we don’t have a western high school and who has been pushing against any investment in addressing capacity.

Armstrong ES is projected to have 41% capacity in five years. Will the new Thru threshold be 45%-105% in five years? For no particular reason at all?

And if you get your wish, and the Centreville HS expansion is shut down, kids right next door will be bussed across Fairfax city to attend Fairfax high instead of attending the school right next door.

But your kids will attend Langley high and not Herndon. We see how this works.


I’m not at Langley and would have fully supported a new western HS.

But they’ve already expanded Langley, Madison, Oakton, South Lakes, and Herndon, and have a big expansion of Centreville planned now. All six of those schools serve kids in western Fairfax, even if not in western Fairfax themselves.

These expansions and expansion plans are inconsistent with a new western HS, which is why I suggest you advocate for scaling back (not eliminating) the Centreville expansion if you really think a western HS will ever get built.

If all you want is a huge expansion of Centreville to absorb the western part of the Fairfax HS catchment area, then advocate for that and stop talking about a new western HS. While you’re at it, let us know who is going to attend Fairfax, with its 2400 seats, if all these kids move to Centreville.


The expansion should absolutely proceed at Centrevillle HS to allow neighborhoods in western Fairfax that are right next to Centreville HS attend the newly renovated high school next door instead of being bussed across Fairfax city.

As for the bold, there are multiple new developments just down Jermantown road from Providence ES and KJ that are converting commercial sites to residential sites:

The Flint Hill one is currently zoned for Fairfax Providence/KJ/Fairfafx:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/02/21/proposed-redevelopments-on-jermantown-road-in-oakton-receive-final-approval/

The AT&T site is commercial land that is currently in the Oakton ES boundary, but is also on Jermantown road (literally across the street from the Flint Hill development) and can be rezoned to Providence/KJ/Fairfax:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/02/21/proposed-redevelopments-on-jermantown-road-in-oakton-receive-final-approval/

So, expand Centreville so that in five years, you have capacity to shift adjacent neighborhoods to attend, and Fairfax HS has capacity to meet the conversion of commercial sites to residential sites.


Providence is already almost at full capacity, so no.

In any event you’re just proving that if Centreville gets turned into this 3000-student factory so people who want slots at Oakton to open up see an opportunity, the idea of a new HS in western Fairfax is completely dead (as opposed to the life support it’s been on for many years).


There is a bit of a logical disconnect in your chain of reasoning here. You to realize that you can’t just throw a bunch of provocative ideas in a row and make them link up. There has to be a logical connection.

Nobody is trying to “make room” at Oakton by pointing out that developments that are in progress/planned would fill any capacity loss that Fairfax High experiences if Willow Springs shifts to a renovated Centreville.

And how does that signal the death of the western high school?

Your 2+2 does not equal 4.


Are you really that stupid or do you just play dumb? The western high school has been deferred year after year for almost two decades while schools serving western Fairfax got addition after addition. Those expansions cost a lot of money. And a Centreville expansion - building a school projected to have fewer than 2100 kids in five years - out to 3000 would be the final nail in the coffin, as there would be so much excess capacity in the central and western parts of the county that a new high school in western Fairfax would clearly be beyond the realm of possibility for many more decades to come.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.


DP. Then your first step should be talking them out of expanding Centreville to 3000 seats. That is the final nail in the coffin of a new western HS.


We all know why we don’t have a western high school and who has been pushing against any investment in addressing capacity.

Armstrong ES is projected to have 41% capacity in five years. Will the new Thru threshold be 45%-105% in five years? For no particular reason at all?

And if you get your wish, and the Centreville HS expansion is shut down, kids right next door will be bussed across Fairfax city to attend Fairfax high instead of attending the school right next door.

But your kids will attend Langley high and not Herndon. We see how this works.


I’m not at Langley and would have fully supported a new western HS.

But they’ve already expanded Langley, Madison, Oakton, South Lakes, and Herndon, and have a big expansion of Centreville planned now. All six of those schools serve kids in western Fairfax, even if not in western Fairfax themselves.

These expansions and expansion plans are inconsistent with a new western HS, which is why I suggest you advocate for scaling back (not eliminating) the Centreville expansion if you really think a western HS will ever get built.

If all you want is a huge expansion of Centreville to absorb the western part of the Fairfax HS catchment area, then advocate for that and stop talking about a new western HS. While you’re at it, let us know who is going to attend Fairfax, with its 2400 seats, if all these kids move to Centreville.


The expansion should absolutely proceed at Centrevillle HS to allow neighborhoods in western Fairfax that are right next to Centreville HS attend the newly renovated high school next door instead of being bussed across Fairfax city.

As for the bold, there are multiple new developments just down Jermantown road from Providence ES and KJ that are converting commercial sites to residential sites:

The Flint Hill one is currently zoned for Fairfax Providence/KJ/Fairfafx:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/02/21/proposed-redevelopments-on-jermantown-road-in-oakton-receive-final-approval/

The AT&T site is commercial land that is currently in the Oakton ES boundary, but is also on Jermantown road (literally across the street from the Flint Hill development) and can be rezoned to Providence/KJ/Fairfax:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/02/21/proposed-redevelopments-on-jermantown-road-in-oakton-receive-final-approval/

So, expand Centreville so that in five years, you have capacity to shift adjacent neighborhoods to attend, and Fairfax HS has capacity to meet the conversion of commercial sites to residential sites.


Providence is already almost at full capacity, so no.

In any event you’re just proving that if Centreville gets turned into this 3000-student factory so people who want slots at Oakton to open up see an opportunity, the idea of a new HS in western Fairfax is completely dead (as opposed to the life support it’s been on for many years).


There is a bit of a logical disconnect in your chain of reasoning here. You to realize that you can’t just throw a bunch of provocative ideas in a row and make them link up. There has to be a logical connection.

Nobody is trying to “make room” at Oakton by pointing out that developments that are in progress/planned would fill any capacity loss that Fairfax High experiences if Willow Springs shifts to a renovated Centreville.

And how does that signal the death of the western high school?

Your 2+2 does not equal 4.


Are you really that stupid or do you just play dumb? The western high school has been deferred year after year for almost two decades while schools serving western Fairfax got addition after addition. Those expansions cost a lot of money. And a Centreville expansion - building a school projected to have fewer than 2100 kids in five years - out to 3000 would be the final nail in the coffin, as there would be so much excess capacity in the central and western parts of the county that a new high school in western Fairfax would clearly be beyond the realm of possibility for many more decades to come.


The western high school would relieve capacity for areas north of the areas where I suggested the Centreville expansion is needed to address. How does that make me dumb?

How would moving Willow Springs to a newly renovated Centreville right next door remove the need for capacity relief in western Fairfax north of 66? How does that make me dumb?

How does citing very real residential developments on Jermantown road that are planned/approved/in-progress that will feed into Fairfax HS, which would have capacity with Willow Springs to Centreville, obviate the need for a western high school north and west of that location? How does that make me dumb?

Nothing I have said relieves capacity north of 66. Why are saying the Centreville expansion makes the western high school dead?

Saying that I am dumb does not magically provide a logical underpinning for your unsupported, conclusory statement that the western high school is dead if Centreville gets an expansion. It just makes you look like you don’t have arguments to support your position and need to resort to insults to shout me down.
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Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.


DP. Then your first step should be talking them out of expanding Centreville to 3000 seats. That is the final nail in the coffin of a new western HS.


We all know why we don’t have a western high school and who has been pushing against any investment in addressing capacity.

Armstrong ES is projected to have 41% capacity in five years. Will the new Thru threshold be 45%-105% in five years? For no particular reason at all?

And if you get your wish, and the Centreville HS expansion is shut down, kids right next door will be bussed across Fairfax city to attend Fairfax high instead of attending the school right next door.

But your kids will attend Langley high and not Herndon. We see how this works.


I’m not at Langley and would have fully supported a new western HS.

But they’ve already expanded Langley, Madison, Oakton, South Lakes, and Herndon, and have a big expansion of Centreville planned now. All six of those schools serve kids in western Fairfax, even if not in western Fairfax themselves.

These expansions and expansion plans are inconsistent with a new western HS, which is why I suggest you advocate for scaling back (not eliminating) the Centreville expansion if you really think a western HS will ever get built.

If all you want is a huge expansion of Centreville to absorb the western part of the Fairfax HS catchment area, then advocate for that and stop talking about a new western HS. While you’re at it, let us know who is going to attend Fairfax, with its 2400 seats, if all these kids move to Centreville.


The expansion should absolutely proceed at Centrevillle HS to allow neighborhoods in western Fairfax that are right next to Centreville HS attend the newly renovated high school next door instead of being bussed across Fairfax city.

As for the bold, there are multiple new developments just down Jermantown road from Providence ES and KJ that are converting commercial sites to residential sites:

The Flint Hill one is currently zoned for Fairfax Providence/KJ/Fairfafx:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/02/21/proposed-redevelopments-on-jermantown-road-in-oakton-receive-final-approval/

The AT&T site is commercial land that is currently in the Oakton ES boundary, but is also on Jermantown road (literally across the street from the Flint Hill development) and can be rezoned to Providence/KJ/Fairfax:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/02/21/proposed-redevelopments-on-jermantown-road-in-oakton-receive-final-approval/

So, expand Centreville so that in five years, you have capacity to shift adjacent neighborhoods to attend, and Fairfax HS has capacity to meet the conversion of commercial sites to residential sites.


Providence is already almost at full capacity, so no.

In any event you’re just proving that if Centreville gets turned into this 3000-student factory so people who want slots at Oakton to open up see an opportunity, the idea of a new HS in western Fairfax is completely dead (as opposed to the life support it’s been on for many years).


There is a bit of a logical disconnect in your chain of reasoning here. You to realize that you can’t just throw a bunch of provocative ideas in a row and make them link up. There has to be a logical connection.

Nobody is trying to “make room” at Oakton by pointing out that developments that are in progress/planned would fill any capacity loss that Fairfax High experiences if Willow Springs shifts to a renovated Centreville.

And how does that signal the death of the western high school?

Your 2+2 does not equal 4.


Are you really that stupid or do you just play dumb? The western high school has been deferred year after year for almost two decades while schools serving western Fairfax got addition after addition. Those expansions cost a lot of money. And a Centreville expansion - building a school projected to have fewer than 2100 kids in five years - out to 3000 would be the final nail in the coffin, as there would be so much excess capacity in the central and western parts of the county that a new high school in western Fairfax would clearly be beyond the realm of possibility for many more decades to come.


The western high school would relieve capacity for areas north of the areas where I suggested the Centreville expansion is needed to address. How does that make me dumb?

How would moving Willow Springs to a newly renovated Centreville right next door remove the need for capacity relief in western Fairfax north of 66? How does that make me dumb?

How does citing very real residential developments on Jermantown road that are planned/approved/in-progress that will feed into Fairfax HS, which would have capacity with Willow Springs to Centreville, obviate the need for a western high school north and west of that location? How does that make me dumb?

Nothing I have said relieves capacity north of 66. Why are saying the Centreville expansion makes the western high school dead?

Saying that I am dumb does not magically provide a logical underpinning for your unsupported, conclusory statement that the western high school is dead if Centreville gets an expansion. It just makes you look like you don’t have arguments to support your position and need to resort to insults to shout me down.


I already gave you the explanation and all the facts are on my side.

Come back when there’s a scintilla of evidence this western HS is actually getting built with a Centreville expansion to 3000. You have nothing. The position of FCPS staff is that anything that isn’t planned within the next five years can be kicked down the road indefinitely or unilaterally canceled. This HS has been deferred almost two decades and the case for its construction would be weaker than ever with a massive Centreville expansion.

You really do live in a parallel universe that bears no reality to what has actually been going on in FCPS.
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Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a need for another high school there, and even if there were that plot is way too small. Langley has one of the smallest footprints and it is 42 acres. This is half that size.
Not to burst your bubble, but McLean’s acreage is 22 acres. Langley’s is rather large in comparison.
and Marshall’s is just shy of 25.


Not sure where you are getting your data. Marshall is 45.6 acres.

https://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/maps/map.aspx?sIndex=4&idx=6&LMparent=138


Don't nearly all of the inside the beltway high schools have tiny footprints?

Edison, Lewis, Falls Church, Marshall, etc? Even WSHS just outside the beltway has a small footprint.

The high schools built in the 60s and earlier just don't have the geographic size of newer high schools outside the beltway like Robinson,Lake Braddock, SoCo, Centerville, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.


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The high school construction should be where families with kids are moving.
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Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.


DP. Then your first step should be talking them out of expanding Centreville to 3000 seats. That is the final nail in the coffin of a new western HS.


Centerville and further out is one of the few places in Fairfax County that has land available for development.

Expanding Centerville HS is one of the few forward thinking facilities planning that Gatehouse has done in recent years.
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Most comments favor limiting boundary changes. With the change at the federal level old projections are outdated:

https://www.challengergray.com/blog/federal-cuts-dominate-march-2025-total-275240-announced-job-cuts-216670-from-doge-actions/
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Anonymous wrote:We don't need ANOTHER high school need near Tysons, we need a high school in western Fairfax county.


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The high school construction should be where families with kids are moving.


The area with the biggest potential increase in students due to new development per FCPS’s residential development applications dashboard is Tysons, not western Fairfax.

Centreville and Chantilly are both projected to lose students over the next five years.
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Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a need for another high school there, and even if there were that plot is way too small. Langley has one of the smallest footprints and it is 42 acres. This is half that size.
Not to burst your bubble, but McLean’s acreage is 22 acres. Langley’s is rather large in comparison.
and Marshall’s is just shy of 25.


Not sure where you are getting your data. Marshall is 45.6 acres.

https://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/maps/map.aspx?sIndex=4&idx=6&LMparent=138


Don't nearly all of the inside the beltway high schools have tiny footprints?

Edison, Lewis, Falls Church, Marshall, etc? Even WSHS just outside the beltway has a small footprint.

The high schools built in the 60s and earlier just don't have the geographic size of newer high schools outside the beltway like Robinson,Lake Braddock, SoCo, Centerville, etc.


In general, but it depends. Justice and Madison have the least acreage. Langley and Marshall have more acreage than Centreville or Chantilly.
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