UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

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Anonymous wrote:Americans will become more familiar and comfortable with suicide in the coming years.

It is time to get away from the idea that we must fight against death at all costs. When you've live to 85 or beyond, you should not be receiving thousands upon thousands of dollars of healthcare, nor taking up the space in a healthcare facility.

Why? We are the wealthiest country in the world. I don’t think we should prolong life when it’s miserable and a lost cause but just arbitrarily writing off people after 85? I know people in their late 80s and early 90s that are quite vital and sharp. Sometimes they have had health issues and those issues are addressed and they bounce back. I am thinking of an 87 yr old woman I know that still walks 5-6 miles several times a week. We spend a lot of money on weapons systems. That may be necessary unfortunately but if we can spend on that I think we can also spend on healthcare for people who still have life in them.

Of course. No one is saying that you get cut off from all healthcare at 85. Only that we shouldn't be spending tens and hundreds of thousands on aggressive treatments to marginally extend the lives of octogenarians.

Why should we be spending hundreds of thousands for extremely premature infants or drug addicts? If there is a cutoff for octogenarians then premature infants born before 27 weeks no extreme measures should be taken. Why bother to leave drug overdoses because becoming a drug addict is a personal choice. Once you put in a cutoff for one group then other groups will have cutoffs for life saving treatment.

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Poor Luigi. Threw it all away and will be imprisoned forever. How tragic.
What did he do? Why did he do it?

Will he ever tell the truth?

Will he ever tell himself the truth?

Now it’s tied up in a circus trial of muck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Americans will become more familiar and comfortable with suicide in the coming years.

It is time to get away from the idea that we must fight against death at all costs. When you've live to 85 or beyond, you should not be receiving thousands upon thousands of dollars of healthcare, nor taking up the space in a healthcare facility.

Why? We are the wealthiest country in the world. I don’t think we should prolong life when it’s miserable and a lost cause but just arbitrarily writing off people after 85? I know people in their late 80s and early 90s that are quite vital and sharp. Sometimes they have had health issues and those issues are addressed and they bounce back. I am thinking of an 87 yr old woman I know that still walks 5-6 miles several times a week. We spend a lot of money on weapons systems. That may be necessary unfortunately but if we can spend on that I think we can also spend on healthcare for people who still have life in them.

Of course. No one is saying that you get cut off from all healthcare at 85. Only that we shouldn't be spending tens and hundreds of thousands on aggressive treatments to marginally extend the lives of octogenarians.

Why should we be spending hundreds of thousands for extremely premature infants or drug addicts? If there is a cutoff for octogenarians then premature infants born before 27 weeks no extreme measures should be taken. Why bother to leave drug overdoses because becoming a drug addict is a personal choice. Once you put in a cutoff for one group then other groups will have cutoffs for life saving treatment.

I agree that we need limits on care that apply to other groups. Every country with universal healthcare does this.

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United Health Group CEO in NYT today wrote:

While the health system is not perfect, every corner of it is filled with people who try to do their best for those they serve.

Yes that’s the problem, sir; you serve your stockholders first and always!

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I'm a prosecutor. This is appalling. This is barely a threat, let alone a prosecutable one.

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He is a jail house hottie

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Anonymous wrote:Poor Luigi. Threw it all away and will be imprisoned forever. How tragic.
What did he do? Why did he do it?

Will he ever tell the truth?

Will he ever tell himself the truth?

Now it’s tied up in a circus trial of muck.

He will have a jury trial in New York City. Ever heard of jury nullification?

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Anonymous wrote:He is a jail house hottie

Him being attractive and well educated is doing him a lot of favors in the court of public opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:Then why not legalize medically assisted suicide?

That’s a separate issue. People can deny expensive and futile treatment, while still receiving comfort care (pain meds, fluids, oxygen). That is what hospice is.

Actually, hospice tries to tell families that it is totally normal to stop giving nutrition and hydration to people. I don't call that "comfortable." There is a whole rationalization that is used to hasten death.

The hospice industry is another big business can of worms: https://www.propublica.org/article/hospice-healthcare-aseracare-medicare

Off topic but PLEASE don’t include scientific misinformation while discussing capitalism and big business.

I’ve seen too many people die a more uncomfortable death than needed because of this misunderstanding.

When someone is actively dying, it is in their best interest NOT to have hydration. Their vasculature cannot hold fluid in and it spreads to places it shouldn’t be (ie- lungs). Same goes for nutrition; bowels slow down. Bodies know how to die.

-hospital Oncology RN who has no interest in anything but patients’ comfort

Thank you. Agree.

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Anonymous wrote:He is a jail house hottie

I’ll put money on his book if he is jailed.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Poor Luigi. Threw it all away and will be imprisoned forever. How tragic.
What did he do? Why did he do it?

Will he ever tell the truth?

Will he ever tell himself the truth?

Now it’s tied up in a circus trial of muck.

He will have a jury trial in New York City. Ever heard of jury nullification?

That would be a sad day in democracy. The evidence against him is overwhelming to say the least. Considering he never even had UHC as insurance, you can’t even make a personal justification

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I’m appalled that the insurance company reported her. Having worked for Congress; staff members are routinely threatened all the time (usually by MAGA) and they aren’t reported unless it’s numerous and egregious. Insurance folks are wimps!

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Anonymous wrote:Poor Luigi. Threw it all away and will be imprisoned forever. How tragic.
What did he do? Why did he do it?

Will he ever tell the truth?

Will he ever tell himself the truth?

Now it’s tied up in a circus trial of muck.

He’ll only say what his PA or NY lawyer tells him to say here on out, per their legal litigation strategy.

We’ll never know the real truth. Luigi might not either.