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Anonymous
VDA tied the so called second tier VA Union. Richmond does have a good team, but I don't think they are unbeatable. I have not seen Pipeline play so I can't comment on them. NC Courage is the top team in Midatlantic ECNL division. Maybe Richmond will give them a good game. |
Anonymous
I would say that VYS, MD united and Frederick would compete with any of the 4-10 list. Vys posses the ball well, Frederick defends well and MD united has good athletes that can score. |
Anonymous
MD United is better than how they have started out this year. The lower competition that VYS and Frederick face will begin to take its toll. They will slowly lose players to GA and ECNL, even if it is just one or two that is enough considering their level of competition. There may be some unique circumstances as to why those teams have stuck together so long but it is only a matter of time before their players get poached. |
Anonymous
VYS lost to Arlington red 0-2. That is Arlington’s second team. So no. |
Anonymous
We have played all 3 teams in the past year and you can tell at both VYS and Frederick that they have good coaches and good parent groups. Kids all play hard and get along. No toxicity that you see at other clubs on both sidelines. MD United has a bit more vocal sideline on both sides - think american football- but that helps the type of athletes they have that seem to feed off that. I also think geographically- it helps Frederick to not be super close to any ECNL or GA teams - the ones that are close like Bethesda and Baltimore armour could be considered at best a lateral move. |
Anonymous
And for point of comparison, Metro beat Arlington Red in Jeff Cup 2-0 So this tier is certainly a matter of 'any given day" |
Anonymous
Arlington red lost the BRYC though I think they beat Frederick. Red was 3rd or 4th in the CCL last year but is having no problems with ecnl-r. I would have to say the ecnl-r is not very high in terms of competition. Arlington red does not have an impressive tournament record. |
Anonymous
Frederick has not played Arlington red this year but beat them 2-1 last year based on CCL results in YSR. Arlington Red and Richmond have the best 2nd team of any clubs in the 08 range for sure and will compete for RL standings with Beach (who finished first in CCL ahead of FC Frederick and Arlington) and VYS |
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I would say that VYS, MD united and Frederick would compete with any of the 4-10 list. Vys posses the ball well, Frederick defends well and MD united has good athletes that can score. MD United is better than how they have started out this year. The lower competition that VYS and Frederick face will begin to take its toll. They will slowly lose players to GA and ECNL, even if it is just one or two that is enough considering their level of competition. There may be some unique circumstances as to why those teams have stuck together so long but it is only a matter of time before their players get poached. I agree that its any given day with all of these teams below your #1-3 or so. This comment drives home the point as to why this is relevant though. Is it really the case that a VYS or Frederick player, for example, is going to migrate to ECNL or GA over the next few years? If some of these ECNL or GA teams really start to differentiate themselves, then the move could be worth it under certain circumstances. Talent around the DMV is very spread out though, travel schedules for ECNL and GA can be brutal, and if players haven't moved yet I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that they will. If team B can hang with team A and even win 35-40 percent of the time, is a move worth it? What if they can win 50 percent of the time? |
Anonymous
I would say that VYS, MD united and Frederick would compete with any of the 4-10 list. Vys posses the ball well, Frederick defends well and MD united has good athletes that can score. MD United is better than how they have started out this year. The lower competition that VYS and Frederick face will begin to take its toll. They will slowly lose players to GA and ECNL, even if it is just one or two that is enough considering their level of competition. There may be some unique circumstances as to why those teams have stuck together so long but it is only a matter of time before their players get poached. I agree that its any given day with all of these teams below your #1-3 or so. This comment drives home the point as to why this is relevant though. Is it really the case that a VYS or Frederick player, for example, is going to migrate to ECNL or GA over the next few years? If some of these ECNL or GA teams really start to differentiate themselves, then the move could be worth it under certain circumstances. Talent around the DMV is very spread out though, travel schedules for ECNL and GA can be brutal, and if players haven't moved yet I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that they will. If team B can hang with team A and even win 35-40 percent of the time, is a move worth it? What if they can win 50 percent of the time? but but but what about my deep ECNL and GA pockets??? we got pay our admin and coaches $$$$ We need to recruit these kids and make their families drive all over the east coast to play a team just as good in our backyard. Please dont let this secret out!!! SHHHHHH |
Anonymous
| I think the parody we see is great for DMV allowing many clubs to thrive. The only drawback however is competing on a National Level. Rarely have we seen National success for ages U13 to U17. In the past 10 years, I think only Mclean has won ECNL at the U18 and U19 age groups. |
Anonymous
I agree that its any given day with all of these teams below your #1-3 or so. This comment drives home the point as to why this is relevant though. Is it really the case that a VYS or Frederick player, for example, is going to migrate to ECNL or GA over the next few years? If some of these ECNL or GA teams really start to differentiate themselves, then the move could be worth it under certain circumstances. Talent around the DMV is very spread out though, travel schedules for ECNL and GA can be brutal, and if players haven't moved yet I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that they will. If team B can hang with team A and even win 35-40 percent of the time, is a move worth it? What if they can win 50 percent of the time? It comes down to the goals of the players. Regardless of how good we may think those teams are within our region if any kid wants to play in college they will simply not get teh needed exposure on those teams. So if kids stay a couple of things may be happening: 1. They really have no desire to play in college and the team and league simply fit their lifestyle best. Terrific if this is the case. 2. They do have an interest in playing in college and their club coaches are blowing rainbows up their a$$ with exaggerations about how they can get them to college. These coaches also probably tell them that State Cup is still prestigious. |
Anonymous
I agree that its any given day with all of these teams below your #1-3 or so. This comment drives home the point as to why this is relevant though. Is it really the case that a VYS or Frederick player, for example, is going to migrate to ECNL or GA over the next few years? If some of these ECNL or GA teams really start to differentiate themselves, then the move could be worth it under certain circumstances. Talent around the DMV is very spread out though, travel schedules for ECNL and GA can be brutal, and if players haven't moved yet I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that they will. If team B can hang with team A and even win 35-40 percent of the time, is a move worth it? What if they can win 50 percent of the time? but but but what about my deep ECNL and GA pockets??? we got pay our admin and coaches $$$$ We need to recruit these kids and make their families drive all over the east coast to play a team just as good in our backyard. Please dont let this secret out!!! SHHHHHH I'm not going to badmouth Metro, and if my kid was there and was happy I am sure that I would stay. There is no way I would move there from another good club though thinking that the opportunity or overall soccer experience would be worth the extra cost and the extra commute to practice and games. Same for FCV. And I don't see GA getting any better over the next couple of years. On the ECNL side, parents should consider the move if they live close to both McLean and Springfield (impossible), or within a reasonable commute of another high level ECNL club (Pipeline, VDA, Arlington). Especially if you are rich and if you have family in NC and South Carolina that you like visiting a few times a year. |
Anonymous
but but but what about my deep ECNL and GA pockets??? we got pay our admin and coaches $$$$ We need to recruit these kids and make their families drive all over the east coast to play a team just as good in our backyard. Please dont let this secret out!!! SHHHHHH I'm not going to badmouth Metro, and if my kid was there and was happy I am sure that I would stay. There is no way I would move there from another good club though thinking that the opportunity or overall soccer experience would be worth the extra cost and the extra commute to practice and games. Same for FCV. And I don't see GA getting any better over the next couple of years. On the ECNL side, parents should consider the move if they live close to both McLean and Springfield (impossible), or within a reasonable commute of another high level ECNL club (Pipeline, VDA, Arlington). Especially if you are rich and if you have family in NC and South Carolina that you like visiting a few times a year. Your kid should also be a top 6-7 player on their new team. Otherwise there is high drama and playing time is a concern. I get staying at a club to be their 18th kid, but I'm not moving to that club. If my kid isn't a starter and the team has more than 18 kids, then forget it. Take it from a parent who has been there and who has a healthier attitude the second time around. Chasing glory in youth sports isn't worth it. Parents should set expectations appropriately and prioritize happiness for your kid. |
Anonymous
but but but what about my deep ECNL and GA pockets??? we got pay our admin and coaches $$$$ We need to recruit these kids and make their families drive all over the east coast to play a team just as good in our backyard. Please dont let this secret out!!! SHHHHHH I'm not going to badmouth Metro, and if my kid was there and was happy I am sure that I would stay. There is no way I would move there from another good club though thinking that the opportunity or overall soccer experience would be worth the extra cost and the extra commute to practice and games. Same for FCV. And I don't see GA getting any better over the next couple of years. On the ECNL side, parents should consider the move if they live close to both McLean and Springfield (impossible), or within a reasonable commute of another high level ECNL club (Pipeline, VDA, Arlington). Especially if you are rich and if you have family in NC and South Carolina that you like visiting a few times a year. Agreed. and to the above poster-many smaller clubs have no problem getting their players looked at by colleges. It may not be big D1 programs- but if a parent/kid was chasing that dream and scholarships there, they would already be on an ECNL club anyway by u14. There are girls on current D1 rosters that played at these clubs but most girls end up at D2 and D3 programs - which is still college soccer. And at the end of the day with an end goal of never playing professionally (or making a living even if they did) most DMV girls- that would be just fine and a great goal to have. |