Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if there are toxicology reports for Chauvin? Was he high on drugs at the time he killed Floyd?

Yes. The Medical Examiner stated that there was enough fentanyl to have killed him. That if he had been found dead at home, there were enough drugs in his system that they would have been ruled the cause of death.

PP is asking if CHAUVIN (the police officer) was high. Not George Floyd.

[Anonymous]

Good point, I bet they did not test Chauvin for any substance and they should have. I just don’t get how he can sit there emotionless, he should show empathy at the minimum.

[Anonymous]

Whatever the verdict here in this highly publicized case it will be overturned on appeal. It’s manslaughter at best. But it’s also a media event. I predict Chauvin will never serve a long sentence for this. Not a popular opinion I know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whatever the verdict here in this highly publicized case it will be overturned on appeal. It’s manslaughter at best. But it’s also a media event. I predict Chauvin will never serve a long sentence for this. Not a popular opinion I know.

I don't think the prosecution can appeal a "not guilty" verdict?

However, new federal charges can be filed for a different charge--similar to the Rodney King trial approx. 20 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have not been watching the trial, but for those of you who have -- they've GOT to find him guilty, right??? Do you have any doubts that they do?

This thread is about WATCHING THE TRIAL! Pleeeeeease take the ranting and symbolism and politics somewhere else! Lots of other threads for that!

(Thi

Calm down.
Some of us aren't able to watch it live because we are working and our jobs do not allow us to have this running (with audio) in the background. I've been checking this thread as one way to stay on top of testimony and how people who are watching him are responding. I have posted 1-2 times although just in response to people's analysis when it is clearly NOT just based on watching the trial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if there are toxicology reports for Chauvin? Was he high on drugs at the time he killed Floyd?

Yes. The Medical Examiner stated that there was enough fentanyl to have killed him. That if he had been found dead at home, there were enough drugs in his system that they would have been ruled the cause of death.

PP is asking if CHAUVIN (the police officer) was high. Not George Floyd.

Oh sorry. Thought I was responding to a comment from someone who said George Floyd’s blood levels of fentanyl were “negligible”. The Medical Examiner refuted that. There was enough fentanyl in his system to have killed him, but was not the cause of death.

[Anonymous]

I have not read this whole thread...but the main defense lawyer (Eric Nelson?) seems really inarticulate and bumbling, doesn’t he? I would be curious what trial lawyers think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When does the jury start deliberations?

The defense gets to present its side first.

Thanks I haven’t been following closely. It’s too maddening and heartbreaking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think a guilty verdict (if there is one) will result in mixed feelings for many.

1. Finally, justice for a murderous cop.

2. We need full-length video of a murder/torture to get that justice. That's a high bar.

Even this couldn't secure a guilty verdict.



By Source, Fair use, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=46358846

Wait....what??

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/walter-scott-shooting/walter-scott-shooting-michael-slager-ex-officer-sentenced-20-years-n825006

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think a guilty verdict (if there is one) will result in mixed feelings for many.

1. Finally, justice for a murderous cop.

2. We need full-length video of a murder/torture to get that justice. That's a high bar.

Even this couldn't secure a guilty verdict.



By Source, Fair use, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=46358846

Wait....what??

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/walter-scott-shooting/walter-scott-shooting-michael-slager-ex-officer-sentenced-20-years-n825006

Wow! So the pp straight up LIED when they said "couldn't secure a guilty verdict?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if there are toxicology reports for Chauvin? Was he high on drugs at the time he killed Floyd?

Yes. The Medical Examiner stated that there was enough fentanyl to have killed him. That if he had been found dead at home, there were enough drugs in his system that they would have been ruled the cause of death.

at trial they stated this, in testimony?

btw, police officers are supposed to help people od’ing, not kneeel on their necks. also someone who took enough opiates to OD is immobile, not walking around. oh, coincidentally somehow he took the fentanyl at exactly the right time to kill him and render him immobile, just when Chauvin was kneeling on him. total coincidence!

[Anonymous]

Lawyers, help me out here. I just don’t see how he could possibly found guilty for murder 2 or murder 3. Can you explain how this could be argued?

I do see how he could be found guilty of excessive force or manslaughter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if there are toxicology reports for Chauvin? Was he high on drugs at the time he killed Floyd?

Yes. The Medical Examiner stated that there was enough fentanyl to have killed him. That if he had been found dead at home, there were enough drugs in his system that they would have been ruled the cause of death.

PP is asking if CHAUVIN (the police officer) was high. Not George Floyd.

Oh sorry. Thought I was responding to a comment from someone who said George Floyd’s blood levels of fentanyl were “negligible”. The Medical Examiner refuted that. There was enough fentanyl in his system to have killed him, but was not the cause of death.

No, there was enough fentanyl in his system to have killed someone without a tolerance for opiods. Big difference!

As one of the experts testified, he had less fentanyl in his system than many DUI suspects have tested with after being pulled over while actively driving and fully conscious. As another expert testified, to die from fentanyl or other opiod overdose a person first goes into a coma before dying - Floyd did not.

If you’ve never used opiods or haven’t used in a long time, a tiny bit of fentanyl can quickly kill you. If you’ve been a regular and heavy opiod user for months or years, the same amount will barely phase you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if there are toxicology reports for Chauvin? Was he high on drugs at the time he killed Floyd?

Yes. The Medical Examiner stated that there was enough fentanyl to have killed him. That if he had been found dead at home, there were enough drugs in his system that they would have been ruled the cause of death.

PP is asking if CHAUVIN (the police officer) was high. Not George Floyd.

Oh sorry. Thought I was responding to a comment from someone who said George Floyd’s blood levels of fentanyl were “negligible”. The Medical Examiner refuted that. There was enough fentanyl in his system to have killed him, but was not the cause of death.

No, there was enough fentanyl in his system to have killed someone without a tolerance for opiods. Big difference!

As one of the experts testified, he had less fentanyl in his system than many DUI suspects have tested with after being pulled over while actively driving and fully conscious. As another expert testified, to die from fentanyl or other opiod overdose a person first goes into a coma before dying - Floyd did not.

If you’ve never used opiods or haven’t used in a long time, a tiny bit of fentanyl can quickly kill you. If you’ve been a regular and heavy opiod user for months or years, the same amount will barely phase you.

Didnt he also have high blood pressure and a heart condition?

[Anonymous]

Floyd was a walking time bomb health wise.