Equity in vaccine distribution

[Anonymous]

I agree that the wealthy will always find a way, but the article does address the salient fact that vaccine hesitation exists in the Black community. That is a big hurdle. To overcome it takes time, but you also need to be creative. On the other hand, DC needs to get shots in arms. By getting anyone who wants one a shot it will help protect our greater community against variants. It's a difficult position, which is why DC is botching it on both accounts.

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Lynda Mosley, 72, of Ward 8, saw the disparities firsthand. After a neighbor who has two computers helped her snag an appointment, she and her 95-year-old mother went to the Giant supermarket on Alabama Avenue SE in Ward 8 to get their shots.

“We looked around and the whole line was non-Black people,” Mosley said, adding that Black customers shopping for food seemed surprised as well. “They looked and they said, ‘What is this? What’s going on? How do we get this?’ ”

On another day, a young White couple trekked from Northeast Washington to the Safeway on Alabama Avenue SE in Ward 8, seeking leftover doses.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-vaccine-disparities/2021/03/25/f9661460-8126-11eb-81db-b02f0398f49a_story.html

WaPo is slowly getting better at covering DC's awful vaccine policy but I am a little surprised that the authors of this article did not follow up this paragraph with a statement of fact that while white residents are traveling to SE DC to get vaccinated, there is only one vaccinatedc.gov vaccination location in Ward 3 which administers 20 shots a day a Chevy Chase Circle. The preponderance of vaccine locations were put in areas historically underserved by DC Health in order to make the COVID vaccine more accessible to these underserved residents.

Where does DC Health want Ward 3 residents to get inoculated? At the end of the day this incorrect perception is helping their ultimate cause so they continue, four months in to allow this situation to continue with no remedy. If you don't want white people in Ward 8, give them an alternative location to be vaccinated.

There are 2 vax sites in Ward 3.

There is only one. Chevy Chase Circle Safeway. They administer 20 doses a day.

Yes, Sibley is located in Ward 3, however, DC Health does not lottery those appointments off. Anybody in the city who has used a Sibley doctor might get a call from their doctor.

If you are referring to the Safeway on Wis in Glover Park, that is Ward 2. Though I understand that most of the city is under the mistaken impression that Georgetown is in Ward 3.

Ok. Well then we know that white people could get their vaccines in Georgetown and Chevy Chase, so that's not the reason they were down on Alabama Ave.

Yes, and they are. 40 doses total between the two sites.

That is why they are traveling east. The sites with larger vaccination programs are all located outside of the "wealthy" Wards.

All I am saying is that people should not be surprised about the optics. The optics are being driven by the reality on the ground. If you want people to stay where they are, make the vaccine available where they are.

The reality is that wealthy people will find a way to grab the majority of any scarce resource and exploit every possible loophole to put themselves in the front of the line.

Elderly residents going to a different ward to get vaccinated because there is little available in their own ward is not a loophole. Are you insane? All the public health advice is to get vaccinated after when you are eligible. That’s what they are doing!

[Anonymous]

All public-health research available says you can have either equity or you can have efficiency. Pick one. You can't have both. DC chose equity and here we are: Even the prioritized population still isn't getting vaccinated enough, along with the rest of non-prioritized DC residents, who even with more vaccine available probably will not be fully vaccinated until late summer. Meanwhile our coronavirus numbers are starting to go in the wrong direction again.

The proper plan is getting the most shots into the most arms at the greatest rate, and things will be better for everyone. DC's plan is a dismal failure.

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Lynda Mosley, 72, of Ward 8, saw the disparities firsthand. After a neighbor who has two computers helped her snag an appointment, she and her 95-year-old mother went to the Giant supermarket on Alabama Avenue SE in Ward 8 to get their shots.

“We looked around and the whole line was non-Black people,” Mosley said, adding that Black customers shopping for food seemed surprised as well. “They looked and they said, ‘What is this? What’s going on? How do we get this?’ ”

On another day, a young White couple trekked from Northeast Washington to the Safeway on Alabama Avenue SE in Ward 8, seeking leftover doses.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-vaccine-disparities/2021/03/25/f9661460-8126-11eb-81db-b02f0398f49a_story.html

WaPo is slowly getting better at covering DC's awful vaccine policy but I am a little surprised that the authors of this article did not follow up this paragraph with a statement of fact that while white residents are traveling to SE DC to get vaccinated, there is only one vaccinatedc.gov vaccination location in Ward 3 which administers 20 shots a day a Chevy Chase Circle. The preponderance of vaccine locations were put in areas historically underserved by DC Health in order to make the COVID vaccine more accessible to these underserved residents.

Where does DC Health want Ward 3 residents to get inoculated? At the end of the day this incorrect perception is helping their ultimate cause so they continue, four months in to allow this situation to continue with no remedy. If you don't want white people in Ward 8, give them an alternative location to be vaccinated.

There are 2 vax sites in Ward 3.

There is only one. Chevy Chase Circle Safeway. They administer 20 doses a day.

Yes, Sibley is located in Ward 3, however, DC Health does not lottery those appointments off. Anybody in the city who has used a Sibley doctor might get a call from their doctor.

If you are referring to the Safeway on Wis in Glover Park, that is Ward 2. Though I understand that most of the city is under the mistaken impression that Georgetown is in Ward 3.

Ok. Well then we know that white people could get their vaccines in Georgetown and Chevy Chase, so that's not the reason they were down on Alabama Ave.

Yes, and they are. 40 doses total between the two sites.

That is why they are traveling east. The sites with larger vaccination programs are all located outside of the "wealthy" Wards.

All I am saying is that people should not be surprised about the optics. The optics are being driven by the reality on the ground. If you want people to stay where they are, make the vaccine available where they are.

The reality is that wealthy people will find a way to grab the majority of any scarce resource and exploit every possible loophole to put themselves in the front of the line.

This is human behavior. Certainly not some sort of sole survival instinct found in wealthy people.

The DC Health debacle is not a PR win for the city. That is why DC is positioning itself the way it is.

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Lynda Mosley, 72, of Ward 8, saw the disparities firsthand. After a neighbor who has two computers helped her snag an appointment, she and her 95-year-old mother went to the Giant supermarket on Alabama Avenue SE in Ward 8 to get their shots.

“We looked around and the whole line was non-Black people,” Mosley said, adding that Black customers shopping for food seemed surprised as well. “They looked and they said, ‘What is this? What’s going on? How do we get this?’ ”

On another day, a young White couple trekked from Northeast Washington to the Safeway on Alabama Avenue SE in Ward 8, seeking leftover doses.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-vaccine-disparities/2021/03/25/f9661460-8126-11eb-81db-b02f0398f49a_story.html

WaPo is slowly getting better at covering DC's awful vaccine policy but I am a little surprised that the authors of this article did not follow up this paragraph with a statement of fact that while white residents are traveling to SE DC to get vaccinated, there is only one vaccinatedc.gov vaccination location in Ward 3 which administers 20 shots a day a Chevy Chase Circle. The preponderance of vaccine locations were put in areas historically underserved by DC Health in order to make the COVID vaccine more accessible to these underserved residents.

Where does DC Health want Ward 3 residents to get inoculated? At the end of the day this incorrect perception is helping their ultimate cause so they continue, four months in to allow this situation to continue with no remedy. If you don't want white people in Ward 8, give them an alternative location to be vaccinated.

There are 2 vax sites in Ward 3.

There is only one. Chevy Chase Circle Safeway. They administer 20 doses a day.

Yes, Sibley is located in Ward 3, however, DC Health does not lottery those appointments off. Anybody in the city who has used a Sibley doctor might get a call from their doctor.

If you are referring to the Safeway on Wis in Glover Park, that is Ward 2. Though I understand that most of the city is under the mistaken impression that Georgetown is in Ward 3.

Ok. Well then we know that white people could get their vaccines in Georgetown and Chevy Chase, so that's not the reason they were down on Alabama Ave.

Yes, and they are. 40 doses total between the two sites.

That is why they are traveling east. The sites with larger vaccination programs are all located outside of the "wealthy" Wards.

All I am saying is that people should not be surprised about the optics. The optics are being driven by the reality on the ground. If you want people to stay where they are, make the vaccine available where they are.

Every Safeway and Giant citywide got the same number of doses, 100.

Nice theory but not the case. Public record that Chevy Chase Circle has twenty doses a day.

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Lynda Mosley, 72, of Ward 8, saw the disparities firsthand. After a neighbor who has two computers helped her snag an appointment, she and her 95-year-old mother went to the Giant supermarket on Alabama Avenue SE in Ward 8 to get their shots.

“We looked around and the whole line was non-Black people,” Mosley said, adding that Black customers shopping for food seemed surprised as well. “They looked and they said, ‘What is this? What’s going on? How do we get this?’ ”

On another day, a young White couple trekked from Northeast Washington to the Safeway on Alabama Avenue SE in Ward 8, seeking leftover doses.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-vaccine-disparities/2021/03/25/f9661460-8126-11eb-81db-b02f0398f49a_story.html

WaPo is slowly getting better at covering DC's awful vaccine policy but I am a little surprised that the authors of this article did not follow up this paragraph with a statement of fact that while white residents are traveling to SE DC to get vaccinated, there is only one vaccinatedc.gov vaccination location in Ward 3 which administers 20 shots a day a Chevy Chase Circle. The preponderance of vaccine locations were put in areas historically underserved by DC Health in order to make the COVID vaccine more accessible to these underserved residents.

Where does DC Health want Ward 3 residents to get inoculated? At the end of the day this incorrect perception is helping their ultimate cause so they continue, four months in to allow this situation to continue with no remedy. If you don't want white people in Ward 8, give them an alternative location to be vaccinated.

There are 2 vax sites in Ward 3.

There is only one. Chevy Chase Circle Safeway. They administer 20 doses a day.

Yes, Sibley is located in Ward 3, however, DC Health does not lottery those appointments off. Anybody in the city who has used a Sibley doctor might get a call from their doctor.

If you are referring to the Safeway on Wis in Glover Park, that is Ward 2. Though I understand that most of the city is under the mistaken impression that Georgetown is in Ward 3.

Ok. Well then we know that white people could get their vaccines in Georgetown and Chevy Chase, so that's not the reason they were down on Alabama Ave.

Yes, and they are. 40 doses total between the two sites.

That is why they are traveling east. The sites with larger vaccination programs are all located outside of the "wealthy" Wards.

All I am saying is that people should not be surprised about the optics. The optics are being driven by the reality on the ground. If you want people to stay where they are, make the vaccine available where they are.

Every Safeway and Giant citywide got the same number of doses, 100.

Nice theory but not the case. Public record that Chevy Chase Circle has twenty doses a day.

Which works out to 100 per week, same as every other Giant and Safeway site. The point is that they aren't being shortchanged, as PP implies.

[Anonymous]

There is no real issue of racism in the equity of vaccine distribution in dc. The broader issue is whether the black community is open to actually taking the vaccine. https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/04/health/vaccine-trust-black-adults-nfid-survey/index.html

The anti-VAXX movement hurts people of every race. However black people seem to be scared of it based on historical distrust from their treatment in America. I also see wealthy people who have bought into the vaccination fear, but they mostly approach it from the strange holistic, “I eat healthy and vaccines could disrupt my dna or give my kid autism” or whatever dumbfik reason. Also, I know people who practice traditional Chinese medicine or alternative healing medicine and they bind the same sort of bullsht.

You can only lead so many horses to water.

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Lynda Mosley, 72, of Ward 8, saw the disparities firsthand. After a neighbor who has two computers helped her snag an appointment, she and her 95-year-old mother went to the Giant supermarket on Alabama Avenue SE in Ward 8 to get their shots.

“We looked around and the whole line was non-Black people,” Mosley said, adding that Black customers shopping for food seemed surprised as well. “They looked and they said, ‘What is this? What’s going on? How do we get this?’ ”

On another day, a young White couple trekked from Northeast Washington to the Safeway on Alabama Avenue SE in Ward 8, seeking leftover doses.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-vaccine-disparities/2021/03/25/f9661460-8126-11eb-81db-b02f0398f49a_story.html

WaPo is slowly getting better at covering DC's awful vaccine policy but I am a little surprised that the authors of this article did not follow up this paragraph with a statement of fact that while white residents are traveling to SE DC to get vaccinated, there is only one vaccinatedc.gov vaccination location in Ward 3 which administers 20 shots a day a Chevy Chase Circle. The preponderance of vaccine locations were put in areas historically underserved by DC Health in order to make the COVID vaccine more accessible to these underserved residents.

Where does DC Health want Ward 3 residents to get inoculated? At the end of the day this incorrect perception is helping their ultimate cause so they continue, four months in to allow this situation to continue with no remedy. If you don't want white people in Ward 8, give them an alternative location to be vaccinated.

There are 2 vax sites in Ward 3.

There is only one. Chevy Chase Circle Safeway. They administer 20 doses a day.

Yes, Sibley is located in Ward 3, however, DC Health does not lottery those appointments off. Anybody in the city who has used a Sibley doctor might get a call from their doctor.

If you are referring to the Safeway on Wis in Glover Park, that is Ward 2. Though I understand that most of the city is under the mistaken impression that Georgetown is in Ward 3.

Ok. Well then we know that white people could get their vaccines in Georgetown and Chevy Chase, so that's not the reason they were down on Alabama Ave.

Yes, and they are. 40 doses total between the two sites.

That is why they are traveling east. The sites with larger vaccination programs are all located outside of the "wealthy" Wards.

All I am saying is that people should not be surprised about the optics. The optics are being driven by the reality on the ground. If you want people to stay where they are, make the vaccine available where they are.

Every Safeway and Giant citywide got the same number of doses, 100.

Nice theory but not the case. Public record that Chevy Chase Circle has twenty doses a day.

Which works out to 100 per week, same as every other Giant and Safeway site. The point is that they aren't being shortchanged, as PP implies.

Why does PP believe that every Giant and Safeway receive 100 doses a week or twenty a day. It is simply not true. The sites were selected by the city. Not EVERY Giant and Safeway are carrying COVID 19 vaccine. And in fact only one in Ward 3 is. That was a city decision. And now the city is doubling down on that decision by not selecting a CVS there with their latest CVS contract.

[jsteele]

After all the condemnation of Bowser yesterday for "refusing" FEMA vaccines, it turns out FEMA turned down DC:

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:After all the condemnation of Bowser yesterday for "refusing" FEMA vaccines, it turns out FEMA turned down DC:

Yes, this is what the Fed does.

And the Mayor and her staff should sell the Fed on DC being an attractive site. But it simply does not fit the narrative.

The fact that DC Health does not hire a capture agent who does nothing but look for outside of the city resources to help the city fight COVID is astonishing. Why aren't we looking at other city best practices. Why haven't we figured out why Danville VA and Philly were accepted into the program and we were not and then modify our sales pitch.

This is similar to talking to someone attempting to contract with the fed for the first time. If you do not speak Fed, you will never land the contract. They operate of different timelines and cycles. You can complain about it, or you can pay somebody to package your requirements into Fed opportunities. You would think that DC, who is funded by the Fed (Don't talk to me about our amazing budget) would actually know how to interface with the Fed. But this is some sort of DC statehood long game and the Mayor sees us as collateral damage.

[Anonymous]

I’ve lived in DC for 25 years. After doing everything right for 13 months I just got my vaccine, in Virginia. I won’t forget this Mayor Bowser and Mary Cheh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve lived in DC for 25 years. After doing everything right for 13 months I just got my vaccine, in Virginia. I won’t forget this Mayor Bowser and Mary Cheh.

Do you have a health condition? Are you a teacher? How old are you? What made you think you would be eligible to be vaccinated in March?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve lived in DC for 25 years. After doing everything right for 13 months I just got my vaccine, in Virginia. I won’t forget this Mayor Bowser and Mary Cheh.

Do you have a health condition? Are you a teacher? How old are you? What made you think you would be eligible to be vaccinated in March?

Other states have reached the point where a much larger percentage of the population is eligible much sooner than in DC. The city is failing in the most basic function of government: public health and safety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree that the wealthy will always find a way, but the article does address the salient fact that vaccine hesitation exists in the Black community. That is a big hurdle. To overcome it takes time, but you also need to be creative. On the other hand, DC needs to get shots in arms. By getting anyone who wants one a shot it will help protect our greater community against variants. It's a difficult position, which is why DC is botching it on both accounts.

+ same for moco.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no real issue of racism in the equity of vaccine distribution in dc. The broader issue is whether the black community is open to actually taking the vaccine. https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/04/health/vaccine-trust-black-adults-nfid-survey/index.html

The anti-VAXX movement hurts people of every race. However black people seem to be scared of it based on historical distrust from their treatment in America. I also see wealthy people who have bought into the vaccination fear, but they mostly approach it from the strange holistic, “I eat healthy and vaccines could disrupt my dna or give my kid autism” or whatever dumbfik reason. Also, I know people who practice traditional Chinese medicine or alternative healing medicine and they bind the same sort of bullsht.

You can only lead so many horses to water.

+1 Leaders need to take a two pronged approach to address this:

1. vaccinate based on phases so people who are eligible aren't having to play the "find my vaccine" game
2. implement a better strategy to get the black/hispanic group to get vaccinated